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Obama signs defense law, calls it a ‘welcome step’ toward closing Guantanamo Bay prison

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Saturday, December 28, 2013 9:38 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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President Obama signed a sweeping defense policy law here Thursday that cracks down on sexual assault in the military and eases restrictions on transferring detainees from the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to the custody of foreign countries.

Marking a rare step toward achieving his goal of closing the controversial detention facility, Obama released a statement crediting Congress for relaxing regulations that he said had significantly hindered efforts to transfer detainees who had been cleared to leave.

“The continued operation of the facility weakens our national security by draining resources, damaging our relationships with key allies and partners and emboldening violent extremists,” Obama said in the statement. He added that the new provision represents “an improvement over current law and is a welcome step toward closing the facility.”

The new policy gives the Obama administration greater flexibility in accelerating the repatriation process underway to send Guantanamo detainees to their home countries, although it keeps in place the ban on transferring detainees to facilities in the United States.

Obama noted that the law does not eliminate all of what he called “unwarranted limitations on foreign transfers” and said that in certain circumstances, the law violates “constitutional separation of powers principles.”

The Guantanamo provision is part of the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal 2014, which sets annual military spending levels and also contains a key provision forcing the Pentagon to revamp its sexual-assault policies. The comprehensive defense law includes a 1 percent pay increase for service members and sets other combat pay and benefits.

The law contains several provisions that force the Pentagon to change how it deals with cases of sexual assault and rape in the ranks — crimes that have surged in recent years. But it stops short of the broad reforms that Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and other advocates have been calling for.

Earlier this year, Obama recommitted his administration to closing the Guantanamo Bay prison before the end of his second term. Shutting down Guantanamo was a 2008 campaign goal of his, but his efforts have been repeatedly stymied, including by Congress, which has imposed obstacles including preventing the administration from transferring detainees to prisons and other facilities in the United States.

“For the past several years, the Congress has enacted unwarranted and burdensome restrictions that have impeded my ability to transfer detainees from Guantanamo,” Obama said in the statement.

On Thursday, Obama urged Congress to lift restrictions on transferring Guantanamo detainees to U.S. soil, where they could be brought to justice for their crimes. Obama noted that hundreds of other terrorism suspects have been successfully prosecuted in federal courts under previous Democratic and Republican administrations. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-signs-defense-law-calls-i
t-a-welcome-step-toward-closing-guantanamo-bay-prison/2013/12/26/ba07e1d4-6e5c-11e3-b405-7e360f7e9fd2_story.html


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Saturday, December 28, 2013 9:45 AM

AURAPTOR

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Why is it still open again ?



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Saturday, December 28, 2013 10:18 AM

NIKI2

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"open again"?? What world do you live in? (/rhetorical question)


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Saturday, December 28, 2013 10:33 AM

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"open again"?? What world do you live in? (/rhetorical question)




No, silly . Why is it STILL open?

By the end of his first year in office. Remember?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:33 AM

MAL4PREZ


Someone obviously didn't bother reading the OP. Too eager to get straight to trolling niki. (As usual)

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Shutting down Guantanamo was a 2008 campaign goal of his, but his efforts have been repeatedly stymied, including by Congress, which has imposed obstacles including preventing the administration from transferring detainees to prisons and other facilities in the United States.



But then, rappy doesn't get that the POTUS isn't a dictator and can't work his will at a snap of his fingers.

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Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:38 AM

MAL4PREZ


On topic: it's about damned time something like this got through. Glad they are doing something about the sexual assault problem, though it isn't enough. Neither the military nor colleges should have their own police and legal system for that. It should go to real courts where there's some chance that justice for the victim comes before the good of the institution.

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Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:56 AM

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America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Someone obviously didn't bother reading the OP. Too eager to get straight to trolling niki. (As usual)

Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Shutting down Guantanamo was a 2008 campaign goal of his, but his efforts have been repeatedly stymied, including by Congress, which has imposed obstacles including preventing the administration from transferring detainees to prisons and other facilities in the United States.



But then, rappy doesn't get that the POTUS isn't a dictator and can't work his will at a snap of his fingers.

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But he promised...

And Barry does think he's a dictator.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Saturday, December 28, 2013 3:37 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Amazing, how brainwashed some of these people are. "Obama thinks he's a dictator". "The Left worships Obama". Thing that have no basis whatsoever in reality, yet of which they are completely convinced. Weird world they must live in.

But yeah, I had no expectations Rap would actually READ anything or have any interest in actually...you know, "discussing" a topic. He sees a key word, latches onto it, spits out the right-wing talking point he's been conditioned to spit out...downright pavlovian it is.


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Saturday, December 28, 2013 4:13 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Someone obviously didn't bother reading the OP. Too eager to get straight to trolling niki. (As usual)

Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Shutting down Guantanamo was a 2008 campaign goal of his, but his efforts have been repeatedly stymied, including by Congress, which has imposed obstacles including preventing the administration from transferring detainees to prisons and other facilities in the United States.



But then, rappy doesn't get that the POTUS isn't a dictator and can't work his will at a snap of his fingers.

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The French Revolution would have never happened if Marie Antoinette had just given every peasant an iPhone.



Yepper, there's that "widening of Presidential power" and "imperial presidency" thing that he and Johnathan Turley are worrying about in that other thread. How arrogant of Obama to not just order the place closed and load the prisoners on an airplane to somewhere. The nerve of him to ask for the approval of Congress first.

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Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:

Amazing, how brainwashed some of these people are. "Obama thinks he's a dictator". "The Left worships Obama". Thing that have no basis whatsoever in reality, yet of which they are completely convinced. Weird world they must live in.



Well, he said it himself, doll.

Would be KING -

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“My cabinet has been working very hard on trying to get it done, but ultimately, I think somebody said the other day, I am president, I am not king,” Obama told Univision in October 2010, when asked why he had yet to achieve comprehensive immigration reform. “I can’t do these things just by myself.” He reiterated that sentiment in a February 2013 interview with Telemundo. “I’m not a king,” he said.
- But then he went ahead and did the very thing he said he would not do, COULD not do, and that's tell law enforcement to not enforce the laws on immigration. What a lying dickhead.

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President of China: “Mr. Obama has told people that it would be so much easier to be the president of China,” the New York Timesreported in March 2011.



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Emperor of the United States: “This is something I’ve struggled with throughout my presidency,” Obama said during a Google hangout event in February. “The problem is that I’m the president of the United States, I’m not the emperor of the United States. My job is to execute laws that are passed.”



http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2013/03/01/obama-laments-that-hes-not-a-d
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But yeah, I had no expectations Rap would actually READ anything or have any interest in actually...you know, "discussing" a topic. He sees a key word, latches onto it, spits out the right-wing talking point he's been conditioned to spit out...downright pavlovian it is.




Niki, you've said yourself that even YOU don't read everything you cut /paste. How the hell do you expect others to do what you won't ?



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Sunday, December 29, 2013 12:55 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Wow. You really went out of your way to out-rappy yourself, didn't you?

It's a fact: Rush Limbaugh is a blue pill ADDICT!


As evidence of "rape mentality"

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is

whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies.


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Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:24 AM

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America loves a winner!


By proving my position to be valid and supporting it , once again, with facts ?

I just do what I do.

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The problem is that I’m the president of the United States


- Barack Obama

He's got that one right, at least.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:04 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Pathetic. I don't know how he does it: contradicts himself regularly, then a few posts later, goes back to his original contention. Twisted mind. Obama responding to why something he wants done hasn't happened because he IS only the President and can't dictate what happens unilaterally answers Rap's own accusations--but to him it means something completely different...sigh...

I dunno what post I must have said something about not having read all of what I had posted, but it sure stuck in Rap's mind, filed under "perfect excuse when someone claims I didn't read something". To be clear, if I didn't read ALL of something I posted once, or didn't read it carefully enough, it was a rare situation; of course I read what I cut and paste, as well as what others post to which I respond, with a couple of exceptions. So let that be an end to the claim Rap has now made at least twice, that I "don't read" what I post here. (Yeah, I know, he'll go right on claiming it, we all know the game.)

There's also the irony that if someone pastes something on an issue to start a thread people might be interested in discussing, what would it matter if they read it all anyway? The idea is to post material for possible discussion…to RESPOND to something without having read it is really idiotic, IMHO. But then, as we all know…



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Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:27 PM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by Niki2:


But yeah, I had no expectations Rap would actually READ anything or have any interest in actually...you know, "discussing" a topic. He sees a key word, latches onto it, spits out the right-wing talking point he's been conditioned to spit out...downright pavlovian it is.



Well, reading is hard when one is brain damaged.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:06 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


A whole lot faster and easier, tho'--see a word, post something stupid, unrelated and right wing, and move on to the next thread. Sad way to spend one's life, but hey, I guess it works for him...


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Sunday, December 29, 2013 7:27 PM

MAL4PREZ


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Originally posted by Niki2:
So let that be an end to the claim Rap has now made at least twice, that I "don't read" what I post here. (Yeah, I know, he'll go right on claiming it, we all know the game.)



No, heres what happened: he got nailed in that thread where he's been asked repeatedly - do you agree with the op? Of course, he never read it fully until he was asked, and now he can't admit that the op goes against his argument. Like a good RWA he must never admit how very beat he was, but made note of how that criticism worked. Now he'll use it on others all he can! Whether it makes any sense or not...

Standard bagger behavior.

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Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
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Originally posted by Niki2:
So let that be an end to the claim Rap has now made at least twice, that I "don't read" what I post here. (Yeah, I know, he'll go right on claiming it, we all know the game.)



No, heres what happened: he got nailed in that thread where he's been asked repeatedly - do you agree with the op? Of course, he never read it fully until he was asked, and now he can't admit that the op goes against his argument.



Wait.... those words after the headline have info.....!




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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