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View of Iraq from grunt level
Tuesday, October 5, 2004 9:24 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: I went to Iraq with thoughts of killing people who I thought were horrible. I was like, "Fuck Iraq, fuck these people, I hope we kill thousands." I believed my president. He was taking care of business and wasn't going to let al Qaeda push us around.... Seeing dead bodies for the first time. People blown in half. Little kids with no legs. It was overwhelming, the sights, sounds, fear. I was over there from Jan'03 to Aug'03. I hated every minute.... So I get to do a second tour in Iraq and be away from those I love again because some guy has the audacity to put others' lives on the line for his personal war. I thought we were the good guys. ------------------------ In the few short months my unit has been in Iraq, we have already lost one man and have had many injured (including me) in combat operations. And for what? At the very least, the government could have made sure that each of our vehicles had the proper armament to protect us soldiers. In the early morning hours of May 10..we were attacked with small-arms fire, a rocket-propelled grenade, and two well-placed roadside bombs. These roadside bombs nearly destroyed one of our Hummers and riddled my friends with shrapnel, almost killing them. They would not have had a scratch if they had the "Up Armour" kits on them. So where was [George] W [Bush] on that one? It's just so ridiculous, which leads me to my next point. A Blackwater contractor makes $15,000 [£8,400] a month for doing the same job as my pals and me. I make about $4,000 [£2,240] a month over here. What's up with that? Beyond that, the government is calling up more and more troops from the reserves. For what? Man, there is a huge fucking scam going on here! There are civilian contractors crawling all over this country. Blackwater, Kellogg Brown & Root, Halliburton, on and on. These contractors are doing everything you can think of from security to catering lunch! We are spending money out the ass for this shit, and very few of the projects are going to the Iraqi people. Someone's back is getting scratched here, and it ain't the Iraqis'! My life is left to chance at this point. I just hope I come home alive. ----------------- People's perceptions of this war have done a complete 180 since we got here. We had someone die in a mortar attack the first week, and ever since then, things have changed completely. Soldiers are calling their families urging them to support John Kerry. If this is happening elsewhere, it looks as if the overseas military vote that Bush is used to won't be there this time around. -------------------------------- As we can all obviously see, Iraq was not and is not an imminent threat to the United States or the rest of the world. My time in Iraq has taught me a little about the Iraqi people and the state of this war-torn, poverty-stricken country. The illiteracy rate in this country is phenomenal. There were some farmers who didn't even know there was an Operation Iraqi Freedom. This was when I realised that this war was initiated by the few who would profit from it and not for its people. We, as the coalition forces, did not liberate these people; we drove them even deeper into poverty. I don't foresee any economic relief coming soon to these people by the way Bush has already diverted its oil revenues to make sure there will be enough oil for our SUVs. We are here trying to keep peace when all we have been trained for is to destroy. How are 200,000 soldiers supposed to take control of this country? Why didn't we have an effective plan to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure? Why aren't the American people more aware of these atrocities?
Tuesday, October 5, 2004 10:18 AM
GHOULMAN
Tuesday, October 5, 2004 2:57 PM
GINOBIFFARONI
Wednesday, October 6, 2004 3:25 AM
IAMJACKSUSERNAME
Well, I'm all right. - Mal
Wednesday, October 6, 2004 5:49 AM
Thursday, October 7, 2004 1:49 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: " There are civilian contractors crawling all over this country. Blackwater, Kellogg Brown & Root, Halliburton, on and on. These contractors are doing everything you can think of from security to catering lunch! " Contractors yes, civilians... Up for debate
Thursday, October 7, 2004 2:34 AM
RABIT
Quote:Originally posted by IamJacksUsername: Does the oath of enlistment, which includes: "I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice." < http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/faq/oaths.htm> and "Disloyal Statements" under Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which includes "attacking the war aims of the United States" < http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/mcm/bl134-12.htm> not prevent the volunteers to say things like this, especially if what they say is true?
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