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A co-founder of Greenpeace told lawmakers there is no evidence man is contributing to climate change, and said he left the group when it became more interested in politics than the environment.

Patrick Moore, a Canadian ecologist and business consultant who was a member of Greenpeace from 1971-86, told members of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee environmental groups like the one he helped establish use faulty computer models and scare tactics in promoting claims man-made gases are heating up the planet.

“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years,” he said.


“After 15 years in the top committee I had to leave as Greenpeace took a sharp turn to the political left, and began to adopt policies that I could not accept from my scientific perspective,” he said. “Climate change was not an issue when I abandoned Greenpeace, but it certainly is now.”


http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/02/26/greenpeace-co-founder-no-sci
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Yep, two idiots on a scifi fan site, vs 99% of the scientific community.

You've convinced me, fellas.

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Yep, two idiots on a scifi fan site, vs 99% of the scientific community.

You've convinced me, fellas.

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2 idiots quoting Faux news...

Q. E. D.

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Consensus is not science.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Moore isn't a climate scientist. But even a broken clock is right twice, so rather than an appeal to authority, his claims should be evaluated on their merit. What is his evidence? What is his logic?

Oh, there is none. And little rappy is left holding the troll bag ... once again.

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definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."

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RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!

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As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies

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And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

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Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".

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Edit. Reading on Patrick Moore, I see that he still believes in climate change, just not that its solely caused by man. he also believes in nuclear power in order to reduce dependancy upon fossil fuels. So in actual fact, he's done a 180 on his views rather than Greenpeace being radicalised.

I note that a variety of unclear statements from members of the self right-eous community here.

So can you be clear.

Do you accept climate change, but that it is not man made
Do you dispute climate change occuring at all.

So if you accept climate change, but that its not man made, can you stop with the 'its snowing somewhere, climate change is a myth' line/

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"Did he claim it was a religious cult? "

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" And what does this do to your claim AGW is a religion, which has nothing to do with what he said? "

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Gotta ask: Kiki, Magons, why do you bother? You KNOW Rap puts up anything he can find "debunking" climate change 'cuz he know it gets your goat.

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Just as an aside; we used to work with Greenpeace back in the '70s, and we left it, too, after the big broo-ha-ha between Greenpeace Canada and Greenpeace USA, and somewhat because of politics as well. So what? That means nothing...but then neither does any of the other bullshit put up by trolls for no reason but to troll.

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So, steady to dropping global temps for almost 2 decades,

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Michael Mann fudging data, as shown in the E. Anglia e-mails

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and nonsensical and absurd predictions by AlGore and the like don't count as " facts " in your world, do they ?

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"Did he claim it was a religious cult? "

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Yep. He did.

" You can't hardly get a science grant these days without saying it has something to do with climate change. It is a kind of nasty combination of extreme political ideology and a religious cult all rolled into one." - Patrick Moore

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" And what does this do to your claim AGW is a religion, which has nothing to do with what he said? "

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Now I don't care who ya are, that's just funny !




Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Did he claim it was a religious cult? Did he offer ANY scientific refutation of the facts that have been observed? Did he propose any logic to reinterpret existing information?

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LYING RAPPY

FROM YOUR LINK? NOPE - NOT THERE. So, got any more LIES to spout?

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When asked by Hannity what’s driving the Climate Change agenda, he said this:

"It is a powerful convergence of interests among a very large number of elites, including politicians who want to make it seem as though they are saving the world, environmentalists who want to raise money and get control over very large issues like our entire energy policy, media for sensationalism, universities and professors for grants – you can’t hardly get a science grant these days without saying it has something to do with Climate Change.

It is a kind of nasty combination of extreme political ideology and a religious cult all rolled into one. And it’s take over way too much of our thought process and way too much of our priorities. There are millions of children dying every day from preventable vitamin deficiencies and diseases and we’re spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a problem that may not exist."

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Oh, now you bring up a DIFFERENT link. not your original.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/02/26/greenpeace-co-founder-no-sci
entific-proof-humans-are-dominant-cause-warming/

So, you lying ASSHOLE, was that in you ORIGINAL link? yes - or NO?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(environmentalist)

LOL!

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(environmentalist)

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Things we should note about this guy:

1. He's a geologist, talking outside of his expertise

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Lone dissenting scientific voices are out there, but we're yet to meet any of them who demand to be listened to/believed, over the vast weight of scientific opinion out there saying the contrary. Keep looking though Auraptor!

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Just as an aside; we used to work with Greenpeace back in the '70s, and we left it, too, after the big broo-ha-ha between Greenpeace Canada and Greenpeace USA, and somewhat because of politics as well. So what? That means nothing...but then neither does any of the other bullshit put up by trolls for no reason but to troll.

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I think I've already addressed this.

Consensus isn't science. But neither is knee-jerk opposition, or winnowing through mounds of facts for some teeny-tiny factoid. You don't know science, you don't do science, and therefore your opinions about science, or anything related to science are just that: opinions.

You used to be a lot more fun when you brought up glacier carbon dioxide or the Siberian tree rings, but then you got your ass handed to you and stopped being any fun at all...

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Really? And Geologist have no understanding of ancient climates ?

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Who better to use the input from a member of GreenPeace ? DUH!

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In Parts of U.S., March Is the Coldest It's Been Since the 1800s

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second - we are a flea on the dog's tail . Mankind isn't the one doing the wagging.

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Kpo - your issue is that he makes $, period

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econd - we are a flea on the dog's tail . Mankind isn't the one doing the wagging.

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Mankind did not put the fossil fuels into the ground, but it is burning the fuel to CO2. And then what happens next? "Nothing!" say some, based on their faith in the invisible and unknowable.

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http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

Global Summary Information - January 2014
January Global Temperature Fourth Highest on Record

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