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Big climate report: Warming is big risk for people
Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:10 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:37 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:03 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: A new study partly-sponsored by Nasa's Goddard Space Flight Center has highlighted the prospect that global industrial civilisation could collapse in coming decades due to unsustainable resource exploitation and increasingly unequal wealth distribution. Noting that warnings of 'collapse' are often seen to be fringe or controversial, the study attempts to make sense of compelling historical data showing that "the process of rise-and-collapse is actually a recurrent cycle found throughout history." Cases of severe civilisational disruption due to "precipitous collapse - often lasting centuries - have been quite common." The independent research project is based on a new cross-disciplinary 'Human And Nature DYnamical' (HANDY) model, led by applied mathematician Safa Motesharrei of the US National Science Foundation-supported National Socio-Environmental Synthesis Center, in association with a team of natural and social scientists. ... By investigating the human-nature dynamics of these past cases of collapse, the project identifies the most salient interrelated factors which explain civilisational decline, and which may help determine the risk of collapse today: namely, Population, Climate, Water, Agriculture, and Energy. These factors can lead to collapse when they converge to generate two crucial social features: "the stretching of resources due to the strain placed on the ecological carrying capacity"; and "the economic stratification of society into Elites [rich] and Masses (or "Commoners") [poor]" ... Currently, high levels of economic stratification are linked directly to overconsumption of resources, with "Elites" based largely in industrialised countries responsible for both... "Technological change can raise the efficiency of resource use, but it also tends to raise both per capita resource consumption and the scale of resource extraction, so that, absent policy effects, the increases in consumption often compensate for the increased efficiency of resource use." Modelling a range of different scenarios, Motesharrei and his colleagues conclude that under conditions "closely reflecting the reality of the world today... we find that collapse is difficult to avoid." ... Elite wealth monopolies mean that they are buffered from the most "detrimental effects of the environmental collapse until much later than the Commoners", allowing them to "continue 'business as usual' despite the impending catastrophe."
Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:13 PM
Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:34 PM
WHOZIT
Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:55 PM
Quote:After Barry re-purposed NASA
Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:22 PM
Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:41 PM
REAVERFAN
Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Blizzard to Close Out March Across the Plains March will end with a blizzard threatening to halt travel and severely disrupt daily routines across the northern Plains on Monday. The blizzard will target South Dakota, southern North Dakota and northern and central Minnesota late Sunday night through Monday night. Rapid City, Pierre and Aberdeen, S.D., Fargo, N.D., and St. Cloud and Duluth, Minn., lie within this zone. For Rapid City, the blizzard is in the forecast despite the weekend starting with temperatures soaring to around 70 F. Minneapolis should narrowly escape the worst of the blizzard unless the storm tracks slightly to the south. Even given the current track of the storm, the city will still be subject to a period of windswept snow and slick travel Monday night. And for Siggy, though she doesn't deserve it, for being so gorram vulgar and base... NASA Administrator Charles Bolden says his foremost mission as head of the space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world. Bolden told the Arabic network Al Jazeera that the Muslim outreach is one of three objectives he was given by President Obama. "One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math -- he wanted me to expand our international relationships and third and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science... and math and engineering," Bolden said. http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/transcript/obama-gives-nasa-new-mission
Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Once again, extreme weather is indicative of global warming.
Quote: As for NASA'a mission, that's very smart. Encouraging education might result in fewer extremists, fewer suicide attacks, and more girls' clits being left alone.
Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:28 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:45 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Only one problem. There is no warming.
Monday, March 31, 2014 5:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Only one problem. There is no warming. This is why I haven't been around here much lately. Haken, why is this spamming fool suffered here? Is he entertainment from the suffering Right wingnuts? I'd rather have reasoned discussion without the extreme stupid bullshit. I'll check back in a while.
Quote: NATURAL DISASTERS 7:22 AM MAR 19, 2014 Disasters Cost More Than Ever — But Not Because of Climate Change By ROGER PIELKE JR. In the 1980s, the average annual cost of natural disasters worldwide was $50 billion. In 2012, Superstorm Sandy met that mark in two days. As it tore through New York and New Jersey on its journey up the east coast, Sandy became the second-most expensive hurricane in American history, causing in a few hours what just a generation ago would have been a year’s worth of disaster damage. Sandy’s huge price tag fit a trend: Natural disasters are costing more and more money. See the graph below, which shows the global tally of disaster expenses for the past 24 years. It’s courtesy of Munich Re, one of the world’s largest reinsurance companies, which maintains a widely used global loss data set. (All costs are adjusted for inflation.) http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/disasters-cost-more-than-ever-but-not-because-of-climate-change/
Quote:Inconvenient truth of carbon offsets " ...Offsetting is worse than doing nothing. It is without scientific legitimacy, is dangerously misleading and almost certainly contributes to a net increase in the absolute rate of global emissions growth." http://judithcurry.com/2014/03/28/inconvenient-truth-of-carbon-offsets/
Monday, March 31, 2014 9:00 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Monday, March 31, 2014 10:09 AM
Monday, March 31, 2014 10:27 AM
Quote:And for Siggy, though she doesn't deserve it, for being so gorram vulgar and base...
Monday, March 31, 2014 10:41 AM
Monday, March 31, 2014 10:47 AM
Quote:If Obama is willing to change nasa's mission to fit one agenda, why not another ?
Monday, March 31, 2014 11:21 AM
Monday, March 31, 2014 11:32 AM
STORYMARK
Monday, March 31, 2014 12:05 PM
Monday, March 31, 2014 12:21 PM
Monday, March 31, 2014 12:31 PM
Quote: [T]emperatures were warm enough for 2012 to remain the record warmest year, by a wide margin.... The U.S. Climate Extremes Index indicated that 2012 was the second most extreme year on record for the nation.
Quote:Yet even though the carbon concentration in the atmosphere gradually increased, passing the 400 parts per million threshold earlier this year, the planet’s average surface temperatures have remained pretty much the same over the past 15 years. The Earth hasn’t cooled— this past decade has still been the hottest on record —but temperatures haven’t risen as climate models predicted. Call it a “pause,” call it a “hiatus,” [call it a "slowdown"- SIGNY] but the question is clear: where’s the heat? Try the ocean. That’s one takeaway from a new paper published in Science today, one of a number of studies suggesting that the oceans depths seem to be soaking up the excess heat energy created by the accumulation of greenhouse gases.
Monday, March 31, 2014 1:03 PM
Monday, March 31, 2014 5:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Really. I already posted my " bye " pic for Chrissy, cause he said he was outta here. And yet, he keeps NOT leaving. Does that seem right to you ?
Monday, March 31, 2014 5:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: You don't debate, or deal in facts. You spout the same BS over and over, and are worth nothing BUT namecalling. So, cheers. And fuck you.
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