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The unassailable truths are that A ) There is nothing that yields near the power as does fossil fuels, and B ) no real net effect of greatly curbing carbon emissions will have in many life times.

Oh, and C ) poor countries want to have the stuff the rich countries have, so trying to get them down isn't going to fly too well.

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The unassailable truths are that A ) There is nothing that yields near the power as does fossil fuels, and B ) no real net effect of greatly curbing carbon emissions will have in many life times.

Oh, and C ) poor countries want to have the stuff the rich countries have, so trying to get them down isn't going to fly too well.

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A leaked draft of the report sent to governments in December suggests that in order to keep global temperature increases below 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 F) by the end of the century — the stated goal of international climate talks — emissions need to fall by 40-70 percent by 2050.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The unassailable truths are that A ) There is nothing that yields near the power as does fossil fuels, and B ) no real net effect of greatly curbing carbon emissions will have in many life times.

Oh, and C ) poor countries want to have the stuff the rich countries have, so trying to get them down isn't going to fly too well.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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And yet another post by rappy where he obviously failed to read the article, and is simply posting pre-formed opinions.

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And 1kiki cant dispute any truth i stated.

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And 1kiki cant dispute any truth i stated.

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I can because I saw these two stories today:

Climate Panel Stunner: Avoiding Climate Catastrophe Is Super Cheap — But Only If We Act Now
“You read that right, the annual growth loss to preserve a livable climate is 0.06%” http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/04/13/3426117/climate-panel-avoi
ding-catastrophe-cheap/

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The unassailable truths are that A ) There is nothing that yields near the power as does fossil fuels, and B ) no real net effect of greatly curbing carbon emissions will have in many life times.

Oh, and C ) poor countries want to have the stuff the rich countries have, so trying to get them down isn't going to fly too well.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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A. Nuclear and Hydrogen say hello!

B. Helping to curb climate change.

C. Rich countries can always help poor countries get away from fossile fuels.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Poor countries don't WANT to get away from fossil fuels. The alternatives are way too expensive, yield far too little, and or simply aren't feasible.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well then, maybe in our ENLIGHTENED self-interest we should help them with free money.

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Nuclear is no where as safe, for starters. Sure, it can be used in spots, but between the cost of building plants, and then long term waste disposal, I doubt many would jump at the idea of 100's or 1000's of more nuke plants around the world.

Helping curb climate change ? Get China to stop polluting the air with their industrial smog, which is affecting weather around the globe more than any 'AGW'.

Poor countries don't WANT to get away from fossil fuels. The alternatives are way too expensive, yield far too little, and or simply aren't feasible.

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Helping curb climate change ? Get China to stop polluting the air with their industrial smog, which is affecting weather around the globe more than any 'AGW'.

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No such thing as " FREE " money, genius.

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...I'm just going to let that hang out there and see if anyone picks up the problem with this statment.

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Helping curb climate change ? Get China to stop polluting the air with their industrial smog, which is affecting weather around the globe more than any 'AGW'.

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Smog from China has become so bad that the particles travel into the atmo, which causes more rain and storms w/ greater intensity than would occur otherwise.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So particulate smog causes LESS rain.

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Helping curb climate change ? Get China to stop polluting the air with their industrial smog, which is affecting weather around the globe more than any 'AGW'.

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Why would you want to bother curbing something which is not really happening?
BTW, man-made smog affecting the weather around the globe is kinda the definition of AGW....


omg I kept a straight face....

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Its too much for him and his pills.

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Smog from China has become so bad that the particles travel into the atmo, which causes more rain and storms w/ greater intensity than would occur otherwise.

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Actually not true. Too many particles in the air cause condensation to occur on too many nuclei. The drops never get big enough to fall, because the water is divided up among too many pieces. So particulate smog causes LESS rain. If you want, I can provide cites and maybe even pictures.

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Seems you've just proved acid rain is a myth.

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Seems you've just proved acid rain is a myth.

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Originally posted by BIGDAMNNOBODY:
Keep up with your topical and thoughtful posts Marky.
This place would be so much worse without your constant topical and thoughtful posts.
I cannot wait for more of your topical and thoughtful posts.

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Keep up with your topical and thoughtful posts Marky.
This place would be so much worse without your constant topical and thoughtful posts.
I cannot wait for more of your topical and thoughtful posts.

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Yep.

If he can only do one thing, at least he should try to do it well.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Smog from China has become so bad that the particles travel into the atmo, which causes more rain and storms w/ greater intensity than would occur otherwise.

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Actually not true. Too many particles in the air cause condensation to occur on too many nuclei. The drops never get big enough to fall, because the water is divided up among too many pieces. So particulate smog causes LESS rain. If you want, I can provide cites and maybe even pictures.

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I'd be interested in cites.

Seems you've just proved acid rain is a myth.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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What's even better is your little idiot sidekick nobody. Yes, I spend a great deal of time making fun of you wingnut fucktards - but I do post other things. Nobody does NOTHING but these "nyah-nyah" responses.... and then goes on about how that's all I do - which he has to be deliberately ignorant to maintain.

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Smog from China has become so bad that the particles travel into the atmo, which causes more rain and storms w/ greater intensity than would occur otherwise.

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Actually not true. Too many particles in the air cause condensation to occur on too many nuclei. The drops never get big enough to fall, because the water is divided up among too many pieces. So particulate smog causes LESS rain. If you want, I can provide cites and maybe even pictures.

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And how is it that none of your "friends" on this site have ever called you out on your derogatory use of the word "tard"?

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“I’m going to find you, George Stark, you toxic little queen, and I’m gonna f--k…you…up” ” - Alec Baldwin

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Asia’s pollution triggers storms in the USA

http://www.aljazeera.com/weather/2014/04/asias-pollution-triggers-stor
ms-usa-201441691110359936.html

A new study find a link between smog in China and the weather in North America.

... While China struggles to take control of its air quality, more research is needed in order to determine exactly how the pollution is changing the weather in North America. If the pollution is also changing the track of storms, there could be a risk that it is exacerbating the drought in California. (Because nothing spells more rain and thunderstorms like drought!)

This research may be a bitter pill to swallow for those people in the USA who have been hit by severe weather in the last few years. However, it may be worth remembering that the second largest polluting country is still the United States.

The world’s weather is intricately linked. What happens in one part of the world, can greatly impact someone in a completely different location, but there is no longer any doubt that human activity is changing the global weather.

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... While China struggles to take control of its air quality, more research is needed in order to determine exactly how the pollution is changing the weather in North America. If the pollution is also changing the track of storms, there could be a risk that it is exacerbating the drought in California. (Because nothing spells more rain and thunderstorms like drought!)

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"Storms which might otherwise take a course that would bring rain to California, now have their track altered, resulting in what ???"

So, if California is extremely dry, and all that missing rain PLUS the extra rain you say exists went somewhere else along the coast, where did it go?

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There's an "IF" there, boy.

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Yep. That is what the study does say, FemBot

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Now you're claiming you never said anything about more rain, in fact you never said anything at all, all you did was post a snippet of a study.

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I never said anything bout there not being more rain.

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