Obama’s Foreign Policy Failures Are Proving His Critics Right ( Not FOX News ) by AURaptor

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The day ended with Secretary of State John Kerry’s angry speech accusing Russia of violating the diplomatic agreement Kerry co-signed a week ago in Geneva, supposedly stabilizing the crisis in eastern Ukraine.

Prime Minister Chamberlain felt the same way on Sept. 1, 1939.

"You're far too trusting." .... Governor Moff Tarkin

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Friday, April 25, 2014 10:12 PM

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How dare you!

Chamberlain never served in Vietnam. KERRY DID !

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Friday, April 25, 2014 10:24 PM

Yes, honorable service. They love him in Ho Chi Minh City. I wonder why.

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Friday, April 25, 2014 11:39 PM

Obama is like Reagan, Clinton, and Bush.
All of the presidents now answer to the corporate elite and the pressures of lobby money.

Yeah, he sucks.
And that makes him different exactly HOW????

Plus: Ricky having to say "Not FOX News" is pretty much an admonition of it being crap. HAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:50 AM

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Stating " Not Fox News " , but in fact Time mag, that is calling this President a failure, only reinforces how bad a Prez he is. And that even the msm can't cover for this guy.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 10:32 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

This caught my eye. Maybe others will see something wrong as well.

Still, Obama promised things would be different — that he would upend Washington thinking and find a new way of solving problems. That he prove those cynics wrong.

OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.

"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Obama promised things would be different — that he would upend Washington thinking and find a new way of solving problems.

The best thing you can say about Obama is that he's not a Tea Party guy. That's something.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Obama promised things would be different — that he would upend Washington thinking and find a new way of solving problems.
The best thing you can say about Obama is that he's not a Tea Party guy. That's something.

And that's the worst thing about this community agitator. But then, most of the GOP aren't TEA Party guys or gals either, and that is why they fail.
Clever how you try to shift focus away from point of the thread, Obama's utter failure.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Clever how you try to shift focus away from point of the thread, Obama's utter failure.

Well, it's not NEARLY the failure Bush's presidency was.
Not all presidents can be Clinton.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

Not all presidents can be Clinton.

Commit perjury and go through impeachment hearings, and then be stripped of their license to practice law ?

I guess you're right about that one.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Commit perjury

OOOoooohhhhh, lying about a blowjob, that's SO important! It affects all of our lives! Not like the lie that was used to start a meaningless war, nah, that was small potatoes. No actual perjury. So in effect, no lie.
You really do suck you small, stunted little troll. There is no excuse for your endless disproportionate rightie rationalizations. Not even that brain damage.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:07 PM

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Bush didn't lie, so there's that. No lie, no perjury there.

However, Clinton actually DID commit perjury, as much as you really hate to hear the facts.

On November 13, 1998, Clinton settled with Jones for $850,000, the entire amount of her claim, but without an apology

Clinton was stripped of his license to practice law in Arkansas for a period of five years.[18]

( And how much you willing to bet that the cigar he defiled w/ Ms Lewinksy was an illegally obtained Cuban cigar ? )

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:41 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Bush didn't lie, so there's that. No lie, no perjury there.

When someone tells you what you want to hear without having any proof at all for it, and you repeat that information as fact, you are lying. Like Obama with the ACA, right?

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However, Clinton actually DID commit perjury, as much as you really hate to hear the facts.

Yes, he committed perjury. And some people spend decades in prison for possession of a single joint. The law is... uneven, shall we say?

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On November 13, 1998, Clinton settled with Jones for $850,000, the entire amount of her claim, but without an apology
Clinton was stripped of his license to practice law in Arkansas for a period of five years.[18]

Okay, ummm, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Spamming shithead.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:26 PM

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Spamming shithead.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:45 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Obama's policy is failing because he's following the neocon approach. While distancing himself from the Afghanistan/ Iraq failures of his predecessor GWB by declaring victory and withdrawing troops, Obama has embroiled himself in a whole new set of failures- Setting up a "new" nation in South Sudan (in order to steal oil away from China) which is currently in civil war. Deposing a "dictator" in Libya (in order to steal the gold that Kaddafi was going to use to back a new pan-African currency) and leaving a nation, once again, a hotbed of jihadism and embroiled in civil war. Funding insurgency in Syria, once again siding with the jihadists and leaving still another nation in tatters. Isolating Iran because of Israel's paranoid fantasies. Backing the military junta in Egypt. Supporting the largest violators of human rights/biggest supporters of terrorism in the mideast - Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Now he trying the same thing in Ukraine. Great.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:55 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Now he trying the same thing in Ukraine. Great.

But he's highly ejimacated and must be smart enough to know what he's doing, right?

He started out with a bit of promise though.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 3:53 PM

We did a drone strike in Yemen this week that killed over 50 Al Qaeda. That's pretty damn impressive, and very efficient, and Obama gets credit for that.

The whole world is a powder keg. There are no easy answers. I only know that a lack of strong world leadership allows tyrants and madmen to become emboldened. Our European allies are gutless. Our Asian allies are gutless. The USA can't and shouldn't do everything alone. We may have to sit on the sidelines and watch while some of these things play out. The old saying, change is inevitable, except from a vending machine applies.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 3:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
We did a drone strike in Yemen this week that killed over 50 Al Qaeda. That's pretty damn impressive, and very efficient, and Obama gets credit for that.

*Caution: Obama apologist at work*

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 4:07 PM

As Billie Jean said, "fair is fair!" The drone strikes elevate his presidency from an F to a D-.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 4:21 PM

I thought getting Osama already secured his D-.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

The best thing you can say about Obama is that he's not a Tea Party guy.

The 'best thing' eh? Wow, the messiah really has lost his flock.

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Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:49 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

I'm surprised this thread keeps running. Every time I look at the header, I read, "(Not FOX News)," and I reply to myself , " NO, just Raptard. "

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Sunday, April 27, 2014 11:05 AM

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I'm surprised this thread keeps running. Every time I look at the header, I read, "(Not FOX News)," and I reply to myself , " NO, just Raptard. "

Really? Still sticking w/ the insults ? Thought the board had decided to drop that term.

And either you forget, or never knew, but the " Not FOX News " reference is a bit of fun and a reference to the old board, where only the subject lines were posted, and you'd not know by whom until after you opened the thread.

And more importantly, it's also a jab at those who think that any and all negative news about Obama comes ONLY from FOX, Breitbart, or some such source. To shake their fairy tale world a bit, I emphasized that it wasn't FOX , to make a point. Even the MSM is now resigned to admit that Obama is proving his critics right. We elected a novice, and his on-the-job training has been abysmal.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, April 27, 2014 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
" NO, just Raptard. "

Please be respectful and use the proper term "Rapturd."
Thanks.

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Sunday, April 27, 2014 12:50 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
" NO, just Raptard. "
Please be respectful and use the proper term "Rapturd."
Thanks.

Ah, I'm sorry. Memo to self: remember and use.

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Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:37 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Obama's policy is failing because he's following the neocon approach. While distancing himself from the Afghanistan/ Iraq failures of his predecessor GWB by declaring victory and withdrawing troops, Obama has embroiled himself in a whole new set of failures- Setting up a "new" nation in South Sudan (in order to steal oil away from China) which is currently in civil war. Deposing a "dictator" in Libya (in order to steal the gold that Kaddafi was going to use to back a new pan-African currency) and leaving a nation, once again, a hotbed of jihadism and embroiled in civil war. Funding insurgency in Syria, once again siding with the jihadists and leaving still another nation in tatters. Isolating Iran because of Israel's paranoid fantasies. Backing the military junta in Egypt. Supporting the largest violators of human rights/biggest supporters of terrorism in the mideast - Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Now he trying the same thing in Ukraine. Great.

Yup. The CIA is as rogue as it's ever been, and Obama hasn't managed to get them on a leash.

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Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:46 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Yup. The CIA is as rogue as it's ever been, and Obama hasn't managed to get them on a leash.

I don't think he's bothered to try at all.
Is he a big Jack Ryan fan? Is that it?

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Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:56 PM

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Yup. The CIA is as rogue as it's ever been, and Obama hasn't managed to get them on a leash.
I don't think he's bothered to try at all.
Is he a big Jack Ryan fan? Is that it?

I'd wager that after your first national security threats briefing on your first day as President, you'd put down the bag of Cheetos and start pressing launch buttons.

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Sunday, April 27, 2014 5:13 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Yup. The CIA is as rogue as it's ever been, and Obama hasn't managed to get them on a leash.
I don't think he's bothered to try at all.
Is he a big Jack Ryan fan? Is that it?

I doubt Barry even knows the reference of Jack Ryan in the first place.

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Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:47 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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I'd wager that after your first national security threats briefing on your first day as President, you'd put down the bag of Cheetos and start pressing launch buttons.

Extremely doubtful. The world is full of nations who hate us- partly because we've ramapaged through nation after nation for the past 50 years or so, leaving death, destruction, and poverty in our wake.

So, what else is new? It could all be easily solved if you can manage to ignore the military-industrial complex, the transnationals, and the banks. Easy peasy!

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Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:56 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM: Extremely doubtful. The world is full of nations who hate us- partly because we've ramapaged through nation after nation for the past 50 years or so, leaving death, destruction, and poverty in our wake.

What a load of crap.

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Monday, April 28, 2014 10:02 AM

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See, this is what I mean by posting stuff that is contrafactual. There's no excuse for it, especially when you have the world at your internet fingertips.

So... how's girls' education doing in Afganistan? Oh, not so much? Taliban too much of a problem? Funny, because under the Russian-backed government, women actually graduated to become doctors and lawyers. That is, until WE decided to back the mujahideen .... "freedom fighters" we were told.... and turned it all into a jihadists clusterfuck.

Iraq. Wow. Used to be a sectarian government, Now, over 1000 people a year are killed in suicide bombings and sectarian violence. Yep, we "freed" them real good, didn't we?

Libya??? Had the highest standard of living in the region. The government gave newlyweds a down payment for a new home. Highest literacy rate, legal equality for women. Until, that is, we bombed the snot out of it and let the jihadists loose there, too.

Yeah, I can see just HOW WELL we've done with our invasions!

Don't believe me? Look it up. Look at literacy rates, before and after. Standard of living, Sectarian violence. Whether a government enforces Sharia law. Number of people killed during the invasion. Check it out for yourself.

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Monday, April 28, 2014 11:15 AM

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The US never intended to annex Afghanistan , like the Soviet Union tried to do.
Think we should? I don't .

See, you want to blame the USA for the crazy ass Islam - o - nut jobs, and not the nut jobs themselves!

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Monday, April 28, 2014 1:31 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Iraq. Wow. Used to be a sectarian government, Now, over 1000 people a year are killed in suicide bombings and sectarian biolence. Yep, we "freed" the real good.

Sig, ya left out the part where Iraq was keeping Iran fully occupied and contained without any action on the part of the USA. Then we removed Saddam, and discovered that WE had to worry about Iran.

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Monday, April 28, 2014 1:44 PM

Not Faux News, but still a reichwinger who used to write for the New Republic.

I don't share his OPINION.

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Monday, April 28, 2014 1:57 PM

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Don't believe me? Look it up.

Anything that disagrees with his pre-determined reality is all lies of the Left.

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Monday, April 28, 2014 3:06 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Don't believe me? Look it up.
Anything that disagrees with his pre-determined reality is all lies of the Left.

Rubber / glue.

Didn't question the stat, but I do disagree as to the cause.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Monday, April 28, 2014 9:51 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Rubber / glue.

Reagan asked a very straightforward question during his campaign

Are you better off than you were four years ago?

It's a good question, and one that I'm sure the people of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan and South Sudan, and pretty much every nation in South and Central America and SE Asia before them as themselves about US involvement. In fact, I can't think of a single nation that we "intervened" in post Korea that actually became more prosperous and more stable as a result. Can you?

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The US never intended to annex Afghanistan , like the Soviet Union tried to do. Think we should? I don't.

Maybe we shouldn't screw things up.

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See, you want to blame the USA for the crazy ass Islam - o - nut jobs, and not the nut jobs themselves!

I blame the nut-jobs for being nut-jobs. I blame the various USA administrations- including both Bush Presidents (who had a close relationship with Bandar "Bush") AND Obama- for entering into a mutual blood-sucking relationship with Saudi Arabia and the Saudi's pet jihadists... yanno, literally supplying dozens of planeloads of arms to jihadists fighting their 'holy war'

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Monday, April 28, 2014 9:57 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I can't think of a single nation that we "intervened" in post Korea that actually became more prosperous and more stable as a result. Can you?

YEAH, there's....

Well...

no.

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Monday, April 28, 2014 10:05 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Sig, ya left out the part where Iraq was keeping Iran fully occupied and contained without any action on the part of the USA. Then we removed Saddam, and discovered that WE had to worry about Iran.

Why did we have to "worry about" Iran??? As far as I can tell, they're over there, and we're over here.

You see, I think this is part of the Great American Hubris... thinking that we "have to" somehow interfere with every single nation in the world.

And Obama's continuing that policy.

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Monday, April 28, 2014 10:06 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I can't think of a single nation that we "intervened" in post Korea that actually became more prosperous and more stable as a result. Can you?
YEAH, there's....

Well...

no.

Yeah, me neither. It would be interesting to see if anybody comes up with an example!

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Monday, April 28, 2014 10:29 PM

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And Obama's continuing that policy.

This is my boggle: he seems like a nice guy, so why is he perpetuating this shit? Is a President these days so in fear of a black ops termination?
Or are we just on the road to a big time Rome-like demise?
I had SUCH hopes for Obama.
He still says good stuff, but his actions (& inactions) are helping to destroy this country & the world.
GWB lite.

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Monday, April 28, 2014 10:39 PM

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So,ignore the issue of Obama's failures, and instead shift the discussion to ridiculous US State Dept choices ?

( And yes, I think we can actually agree , there's some mind blowingly stupid ass decisions being made by State, which goes back DECADES, and seemingly outside the sphere of influence of the WH, regardless of who is its occupant. )

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Monday, April 28, 2014 11:11 PM

And facts pwn Rappy again.

Gets a little old.

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Monday, April 28, 2014 11:15 PM

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( And yes, I think we can actually agree , there's some mind blowingly stupid ass decisions being made by State, which goes back DECADES, and seemingly outside the sphere of influence of the WH, regardless of who is its occupant. )

*chrisisall faints*

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Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:34 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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So,ignore the issue of Obama's failures

Son, are you able to read?

HOW MANY times did I mention Obama, specifically, by name, as the person continuing the failed counterproductive policies of the past?

You couldn't, or wouldn't, look up the other questions that I asked, but maybe you can answer at least that simple one.

Or maybe that's expecting too much.

Yeah, probably expecting too much.

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Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:44 AM

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/04/28/president-obama-shreds-fox-news
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Watch Obama hand Ed Harris his ass. Ed starts with the braindead talking points, then gets a lesson in common sense. Go to 30:45

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Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:48 AM