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racism is dead ... so they say
Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:45 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, April 27, 2014 5:06 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Sunday, April 27, 2014 5:41 PM
Monday, April 28, 2014 3:08 PM
Monday, April 28, 2014 3:45 PM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Monday, April 28, 2014 4:33 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Monday, April 28, 2014 4:39 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Monday, April 28, 2014 4:54 PM
Quote:…. that recording is not consistent with, nor does it reflect his views, beliefs or feelings…
Quote:…attributed to him…
Monday, April 28, 2014 5:52 PM
Quote:“It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you’re associating with black people. Do you have to?” “You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that … and not to bring them to my games.” Don’t put him [Johnson] on an Instagram for the world to have to see so they have to call me. And don’t bring him to my games.” http://nba.si.com/2014/04/26/donald-sterling-nba-investigation-racist-comments-clippers/
Quote:In 2009, Sterling, who also owns a slew of apartment buildings in the Los Angeles area, agreed to pay $2.725 million settlement — the largest monetary payment ever obtained by the Department of Justice — to settle a housing discrimination suit. http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/November/09-crt-1187.html
Monday, April 28, 2014 6:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: We are all monkeys, as he said.
Monday, April 28, 2014 6:21 PM
REAVERFAN
Quote:After getting burned by racist rancher Cliven Bundy, Fox News, the Tea Party, and others thought they had their gotcha moment when they claimed Clippers owner Donald Sterling was a Democrat. The problem is that he’s a Republican. The right was still licking their wounds when they got busted for elevating Cliven Bundy to hero status when the Donald Sterling tape became national news. Immediately, Matt Drudge claimed that Sterling was a Democrat: GOT GAME: NYT informed the unwashed how Bundy is a Republican. Leaves out NBA Sterling is a Democrat… — MATT DRUDGE (@DRUDGE) April 27, 2014 The Tea Party News Network ran the headline, “Donald Sterling Is A Racist Democrat.” Fox News’ website Fox Nation claimed that Sterling is a Democratic donor, and above their headline featured an image of the Obama and Democratic Party logos. Yep, the right finally had their own Bundy equalizer. Their very own racist Democrat. See, both sides really do do it. The problem is that Donald Sterling has been a registered Republican since 1998. LA Times columnist Michael Hilzik tweeted: Mother Jones followed up with a search of the Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder’s website that confirmed that Sterling is a Republican. The fact that Sterling is a Republican does not mean that all Republicans are racists. In fact, his political affiliation doesn’t change Sterling’s vile comments in the least. What is on display once again is the mechanism through which millions of Americans are intentionally misinformed every single day. Republicans and their media were looking to get the stench of Bundy’s racism off of themselves, so they latched on to inaccurate story that Donald Sterling is a Democrat. Fox News and others can’t be bothered with fact checking. All they cared about was finding a racist to pin on Democrats so that they could even the score. For conservative media, facts are irrelevant. It’s all about finding a way to justify their own racism, and adoption of race based political tactics. Most of the conservatives who claimed that Sterling is a Democrat still have not corrected their articles, and the truth is that many of them probably won’t. The point is to confuse and muddy the waters. If Republicans convince people that Democrats are racists too, their own racism doesn’t look so bad. Instead of solving the problem, Fox News and the rest of right wing media made it worse, because Donald Sterling’s political affiliation is now an issue, and the Clippers owner now shares a spot with fellow Republicans Ted Nugent, George Zimmerman, and Cliven Bundy in the Republican Racist Hall of Shame.
Monday, April 28, 2014 6:37 PM
Monday, April 28, 2014 6:45 PM
Monday, April 28, 2014 6:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Today we remember Rosa Parks' bold stand and her role in ending racism."
Monday, April 28, 2014 6:59 PM
Monday, April 28, 2014 7:01 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Per the subject line, exactly who are " they " ? Where has it been said that racism is " dead " ? I missed that memo.
Monday, April 28, 2014 7:24 PM
Monday, April 28, 2014 7:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Per the subject line, exactly who are " they " ? Where has it been said that racism is " dead " ? I missed that memo. It sounds like both Al Sharpyton and Jesse Jackson must have died if racist has died. Did that soccer player try some fried chicken and watermelon as well? Just noticed: is it coincidence that initials for Jesse Jackson Jr are one letter off from KKK?
Monday, April 28, 2014 8:48 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:44 PM
Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:06 AM
OONJERAH
Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:01 AM
Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:52 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Donald Sterling To Receive NAACP Lifetime Achievement Award Donald Sterling, the Los Angeles Clippers owner who was reportedly caught on tape making racist comments to his girlfriend, is set to receive a lifetime achievement award from the NAACP in May, according to the organization's website. Or, he WAS , until this latest fiasco. But even BEFORE his ( illegally ? ) taped remarks, this guy had a track record of racist views and actions. So, how much $ had he given to the naacp to buy their blessing?
Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: So, the worst kept secret in all of sports, that Donald Sterling is, was and will be to the end of his days, a racist. And now he's been banned from the NBA - for life. Only, he's saying he'll fight to keep the team which the NBA commish has vowed he'll force Sterling to sell. This should get interesting. There's a whole back story ( or conspiracy ) to the reason why all this is being played out NOW. The short version is, the league wanted this guy out as owner. Best way to do that ? No, not have him suicided, but maybe the next best thing. Have him humiliated and forced to sell. In comes Magic Johnson, who is instant gold in the city of Angels, and Voila! Problem solved ! Anyway, it appears Sterling will NOT get his second award from the NAACP. It seems he'll have to settle as having the same number of awards as Dr. Ben Carson, and 1 more than US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Not too bad for a slum lord and overt racist. Stay true to the cause, NAACP ! Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts. " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Wednesday, April 30, 2014 5:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Apparently the taping was not illegal because it was at his request. SGG
Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:37 AM
Quote:We're told Stiviano insists it was clear to Sterling at the beginning of the conversation he was being recorded. What's more ... our sources say Stiviano routinely recorded her conversations with Sterling as HIS "archivist." And what's more ... she would regularly play the tapes back to him because he would often forget what he had said. Our sources say sometime after the tape was recorded on April 9 ... Stiviano and Sterling got in an argument because he wanted her to sign a confidentiality agreement ... which she would not. We're told he then denied ever making the racist statements on the tape, so she played the entire tape for back him ... before it was ever posted on TMZ Sports. http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/27/donald-sterling-racist-audio-v-stiviano-recorded-clippers/#ixzz30N8Kuq3Q
Quote:He also insisted that Stiviano and the 80-year-old Clippers owner never had a sexual or romantic relationship and descriptions of her as his mistress in the media and in a lawsuit filed by Sterling’s wife are erroneous. “It’s nothing like it’s been portrayed,” Nehoray said. “She’s not the type of person everyone says.” Stiviano's lawyer said his client was a hard-working young woman who supported herself waitressing and volunteered helping crime victims before signing on to work as an “archivist” for Sterling. A spokesman for the Los Angeles County district attorney's office confirmed that Stiviano did clerical work and helped explain legal procedures to victims as a volunteer in the agency’s Victim-Witness Assistance Program in 2010 and 2011. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-v-stiviano-saddened-nba-donald-sterling-ban-20140429,0,5463256.story#ixzz30N9rwJWN
Quote:The lawsuit claims that Sterling first met Stiviano at the 2010 Super Bowl, and “initiated and participated in a sexual relationship” with Sterling that lasted until the filing. There is some question about Stiviano’s profession. According to the Los Angeles Times, Stiviano has been listed as director in advertising material for the Donald T. Sterling Charitable Foundation. TMZ reported that sources close to Stiviano said her relationship with Sterling is professional—that she worked for years as Sterling’s "archivist" as well as for a Clippers charity. http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2014/04/28/who-is-v-stiviano-other-voice-other-woman-on-donald-sterling-tape/
Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:20 PM
MIKER
Once I found Serenity
Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: I heard about 50 grand. That is what makes this all the sadder. Apparently for money even the NAACP will not only look the other way but sing your parses as well.
Thursday, May 1, 2014 2:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: I heard about 50 grand. That is what makes this all the sadder. Apparently for money even the NAACP will not only look the other way but sing your parses as well. Where ya hearing that figure ? I heard some naacp spokesperson claim it was " insignificant ", but would not offer an amount. So, next time anyone , even a billionaire, gives you $ 50K, be sure to scoff and roll your eyes at it.
Thursday, May 1, 2014 2:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Just for clarity's sake: Quote:We're told Stiviano insists it was clear to Sterling at the beginning of the conversation he was being recorded. What's more ... our sources say Stiviano routinely recorded her conversations with Sterling as HIS "archivist." And what's more ... she would regularly play the tapes back to him because he would often forget what he had said. Our sources say sometime after the tape was recorded on April 9 ... Stiviano and Sterling got in an argument because he wanted her to sign a confidentiality agreement ... which she would not. We're told he then denied ever making the racist statements on the tape, so she played the entire tape for back him ... before it was ever posted on TMZ Sports. http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/27/donald-sterling-racist-audio-v-stiviano-recorded-clippers/#ixzz30N8Kuq3Q Or there's this:Quote:He also insisted that Stiviano and the 80-year-old Clippers owner never had a sexual or romantic relationship and descriptions of her as his mistress in the media and in a lawsuit filed by Sterling’s wife are erroneous. “It’s nothing like it’s been portrayed,” Nehoray said. “She’s not the type of person everyone says.” Stiviano's lawyer said his client was a hard-working young woman who supported herself waitressing and volunteered helping crime victims before signing on to work as an “archivist” for Sterling. A spokesman for the Los Angeles County district attorney's office confirmed that Stiviano did clerical work and helped explain legal procedures to victims as a volunteer in the agency’s Victim-Witness Assistance Program in 2010 and 2011. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-v-stiviano-saddened-nba-donald-sterling-ban-20140429,0,5463256.story#ixzz30N9rwJWN Or if you prefer the vaulted FauxNews:Quote:The lawsuit claims that Sterling first met Stiviano at the 2010 Super Bowl, and “initiated and participated in a sexual relationship” with Sterling that lasted until the filing. There is some question about Stiviano’s profession. According to the Los Angeles Times, Stiviano has been listed as director in advertising material for the Donald T. Sterling Charitable Foundation. TMZ reported that sources close to Stiviano said her relationship with Sterling is professional—that she worked for years as Sterling’s "archivist" as well as for a Clippers charity. http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2014/04/28/who-is-v-stiviano-other-voice-other-woman-on-donald-sterling-tape/ ...depending on what you want to believe in situations such as this...
Thursday, May 1, 2014 1:07 PM
Thursday, May 1, 2014 1:52 PM
Thursday, May 1, 2014 1:58 PM
Thursday, May 1, 2014 2:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: So 15-50k will get an established & known racist a lifetime achievement award ( or 2 ) from the NAACP ? Huh. I did not know that. My guess is that Sterling gave MUCH more, but that's all the NAACP will fess up to. It's not like Sterling will be able to call them out on if, if he's gonna try to keep the team.
Thursday, May 1, 2014 3:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Thursday, May 1, 2014 7:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: She calls herself an "Archivist", I call her brain dead for who she is dealing with.
Thursday, May 1, 2014 7:46 PM
Thursday, May 1, 2014 8:08 PM
Thursday, May 1, 2014 11:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I'm still wondering if the NBA will institute lifetime Bans on all of the following: Any player who utters the N word at home, club, or the court of play. Any player who utters the B word at home, club, or on the phone. Any player who utters the slang term for prostitute at home, club, or on the phone. Any player who utters a derogatory slur for gays at home, club, or on the phone.
Thursday, May 1, 2014 11:56 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Pretty amazing that a guy who did nothing wrong, in any legal sense, gets into this much trouble.
Friday, May 2, 2014 12:41 AM
Friday, May 2, 2014 12:49 AM
Friday, May 2, 2014 1:21 AM
Friday, May 2, 2014 1:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Apparently the taping was not illegal because it was at his request. SGG I've heard that he admits it was him on the recording, I've not heard anything where he claims the recording was done w/ his knowledge. Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts. " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Friday, May 2, 2014 7:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Pretty amazing that a guy who did nothing wrong, in any legal sense, gets into this much trouble. Legality is all that matters. You are such a dumb dumass.
Friday, May 2, 2014 5:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I'm still wondering if the NBA will institute lifetime Bans on all of the following: Any player who utters the N word at home, club, or the court of play. Any player who utters the B word at home, club, or on the phone. Any player who utters the slang term for prostitute at home, club, or on the phone. Any player who utters a derogatory slur for gays at home, club, or on the phone. Look, JSF, I have perfect Freedom of Speech as long as I'm home alone, talking to myself!
Friday, May 2, 2014 7:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Yeah, what's self-respect worth.
Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:44 AM
Saturday, May 3, 2014 10:15 AM
Saturday, May 3, 2014 10:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: ^^ That is pretty unbelievable. I don't know much about Twitter, but those people should be identified, outed, humiliated, and run out of town.
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