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My guess is that there are many many more who DON'T have such " problems " , and are obese simply because eating tasty food makes them feel better. Or so that is their belief.

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Also, on this subject... If you can tell my 300 lb gorilla of a husband to give up Oreos, you're a better man than I.

The reason why comfort food works so well for people who are on the autism spectrum is because there are so few things that actually work to sooth a troubled mind as well as food does. You really don't think there aren't a FREAKING BOATLOAD of parents out there that aren't in the same position I'm in??? It's not JUST about chemistry and biology, it's about MENTAL HEALTH too.

Which is another damn thing you can't fix... But people can sure preach and bitch about things they know NOTHING about.

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You can't TELL someone such things, they have to figure it out on their own. That's been my experience.

What is more comforting ? Chomping on those tasty oreos, and WISHING you were 20,30, 50lbs lighter, or BEING lighter ?

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" Small moves, Ellie. Small moves. "

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If ya wanna lose weight, or know someone who does, consult a doctor first. Duh.

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Doctahs. Doctors know NOTHING!!!

I'm the one that diagnoses everything in this family. I could write pages about how clueless every doc I've been to is. They know NOTHING about your habits or your chemistry, they just write out blind scripts and hope for the best.

I can't afford the battery of tests they've done on my mom for free ($300,000!) because she is low income, so I will never find out why we can't lose weight. And I'm not asking you how NORMAL people with no health
problems diet, I am saying that NO ONE can tell me what the problem is. If eatin rice cakes would do it for me, I'd do it. It don't. Hasn't ever. There is a giant WALL of problems I have with what you wrote about what I should do. It would take a year for you to fully understand what I say.
Pretending that everyone CAN lose weight is what I have a problem with. Being smug because you aren't overweight is what I have a problem with. If you are thin, it's because you got adequate DNA. We DIDN'T. I have NEVER BEEN AN OVEREATER, but I can't exercise. I would literally have to STARVE to be thin, as in not eat for weeks at a time. I did it in high school. I can't and WON'T do it again.

*sigh* What's the point. Every day I come here I'm reminded why I shouldn't bother. Most people have the medical knowledge of Kindergarteners. Useless....

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BTW Whoz, you might wanna knock off making fun of fat kids. Mine has three health problems that make it impossible for her to lose weight. There are a LOT of kids that I know of that also have problems. It's pretty weak to pick on people who aren't even adult and can't help or fix themselves.

And NO, I am not gonna starve her to make anyone else happy.

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I'm not seeing an answer here....

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I'm not seeing an answer here....

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Knock sugar (& things made WITH sugar) & red meats outta your diet, drink more water, and you'll start seeing an improvement in a week or two. If I'm wrong I'll give you all my houses in the South of France.

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I am never going to give up...
Meat
Coffee
Beer
Cigarettes
Food fried in fat

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I am never going to give up...
Meat
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Food that tastes good is good for you, FACT!

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I'm not seeing an answer here....

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Knock sugar (& things made WITH sugar) & red meats outta your diet, drink more water, and you'll start seeing an improvement in a week or two. If I'm wrong I'll give you all my houses in the South of France.

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" useless "

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" useless "

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But we love you anyway.

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You could prove it, once in a while.

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You could prove it, once in a while.

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What? I prove your uselessness way too often as it is!

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You just say you love me, I know it's a lie.

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Most would have gotten my meaning. You didn't.

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So you know more than trained medical professionals but are still unable to diagnose yourself.

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As for what other people think of your daughter, fuck em.

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Most would have gotten my meaning. You didn't.

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Honestly, I missed it. But I sure used it well, didn't I?
I made ME laugh, anyways.

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It's easy for an adult to say that, but to a little girl that just wants to be liked, it's a WHOLE 'NOTHER THANG. I know. I've been there...

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Yeah. Never mind trying to stick to the issue of the thread, just take yet another cheap, pointless, uncalled for ad hominem at another poster.

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Calm yourself, Doctor.

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She asks for advice, and then discards it, with out so much as a 'thank you'.

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You give out dieting advice for otherwise healthy people

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...on myself indicated conclusively that SUGAR, not fat was the main culprit. And not just acne, sugar fuels fat weight gain, and diabetes. It's a tasty poison that in small amounts can be enjoyed & metabolised, but it's ubiquitous in foods today.

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You are sensitive to the sugar problem because your kid is diabetic. It what you relate to, it's YOUR mission...

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GENES regulate these things! You don't want to acknowledge it because you don't want to "give people an excuse" Picking on people for their weight is just as idiotic as picking on people for their height or hair color....

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You can be fat and walking and exercising and not smoking/drinking and you probably will be tons healthier than the skinny person who never moves, except to get that next pack of smokes or the next bottle of beer.

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G
- thanks

And it's true, or was for me , that 1 point in time, a comment or " event " can wake a person up and be the tipping point.

And losing that much weight makes a world of difference. Mentally, physically, it's freaking amazing.

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It prolly took 12+ yrs , of gain some- lose a bit - gain some more for me to amass that much... mass. There was a short time, 18 months, where I did jump up a fair bit, towards the time of max density.

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