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Originally posted by MIKER:
it appears to come from a deep seeded hatred of this country.

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Sorry MIKER, this was the last nail here, whether intentional or not, I'm not discussing junk with you again here.
Yes, I AM a grammar Nazi. To this extent, anyway.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

And you still haven't answered my questions.

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Nor have you answered mine.

@ Jongs - I saw that. I had hoped it was some spoof, or interwebs hoax. Apparently, not.

That has to be the pussiest work out - EVER. I've seen chicks pump more iron than that in the gym. Do Malia and Sasha know daddy has their play weights ?

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That is not the world so judging it from that perspective [utopia] is not helpful. I look at it like a bell curve and where do we as a nation sit on that curve. I feel

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this is a more responsible and accurate way of judging events. I find it outrageous Signym gets to make comments like

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Those kind of statements are the norm for Signym. There is absolutely no way to verify any of that, much less all of it.

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Answer: His analysis was of you and your approach to many topics, but specifically to Ukraine. It does seem a might [sic] black and white. Considering there are humans with a great deal of emotion and sell-interest on both sides, and how the only land grabbing that has happened so far has been by Russia, it's hard to believe any assessment that is so one sided.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Your first concern us that I'm "one sided?"

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Yemeni government officials had said the December 17, 2009, attack in southern Yemen targeted an al Qaeda training camp, according to Amnesty International. The attack killed 55 people, including 14 alleged members of the terrorist group, the organization said. Civilians killed included 14 women and 21 children, Amnesty International said.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I asked you what would constitute proof.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Hannity has had the link up for a while, how did you miss it?
Somebody should sue him for not wearing his tricycle helmet and setting a bad and unsafe example.

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Originally posted by MIKER:
I have been speaking to your hatred of this country throughout this entire thread. The fact that you don't answer that shows me to be correct.

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Hey MIKER, I'm really sorry here, I came to the conclusion that you weren't a Rappy sockpuppet...

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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
You erred there.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
MIKER left and took all of his comments with him?

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Originally posted by Niki2:

Here's an interesting question (maybe). Given all the anger at those who disapprove of America's actions, would anyone like to note any nation which was rich and powerful enough to do so, and which had a mighty military, which HASN'T behaved in pretty much the same manner as America has?

It's certainly easy enough to mention MANY nations who, at the peak of their power, behaved worse than America... but have any behaved better?

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Here's an interesting question (maybe). Given all the anger at those who disapprove of America's actions, would anyone like to note any nation which was rich and powerful enough to do so, and which had a mighty military, which HASN'T behaved in pretty much the same manner as America has?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I used to get a flinch reaction every time GWB spoke, and quite frankly I've gotten to the same point with Obama. Here is the transcript of his speech at West Point.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/05/28/transcript-video-obama-lays-out-f
oreign-policy-west-point-commencement-speech

I couldn't help but notice the wandering hypocrisy, like he had lost the thread of his own propaganda ...

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In fact, by most measures America has rarely been stronger relative to the rest of the world. Those who argue otherwise — who suggest that America is in decline or has seen its global leadership slip away — are either misreading history or engaged in partisan politics. Think about it. Our military has no peer.

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Yep, we spend more on our military than the rest of the world COMBINED. Nobody else - not even Russia!- has bases ALL OVER the world!

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America continues to attract striving immigrants.

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Oh, that was STRIVING? I thought that was STARVING.

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Russia’s aggression towards former Soviet states unnerves capitals in Europe

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Yeah, because Russia has troops, bases, and missiles all over Europe. (not) And yet, somehow, Russia is the aggressor.

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From Brazil to India, rising middle classes compete with us, and governments seek a greater say in global forums.

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Yes, god help us if other governments have a greater say!

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The question we face, the question each of you will face, is not whether America will lead but how we will lead

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Because, yanno, whatever we decide is right for the world is right for the world.

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not just to secure our peace and prosperity but also extend peace and prosperity around the globe.

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HAHAHAHA! We've been blowing this smoke for 70 years or more. Replaced 50 governments. Somehow, we still haven't gotten this right!

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Today, according to self-described realists, conflicts in Syria or Ukraine or the Central African Republic are not ours to solve.

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In particular, they're not ours to start.

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Here’s my bottom line: America must always lead on the world stage. If we don’t, no one else will. The military ... is, and always will be, the backbone of that leadership.

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Again, we have the right to determine what's right for the rest of the world? And if they don't agree, we turn on the force?

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This weekend, Ukrainians voted by the millions. Yesterday, I spoke to their next president. We don’t know how the situation will play out, and there will remain grave challenges ahead, but standing with our allies on behalf of international order, working with international institutions, has given a chance for the Ukrainian people to choose their future — without us firing a shot.

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The Ukrainians did that for us, thanks to pressure from that organ of American dominance- the IMF.

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... a third aspect of American leadership, and that is our effort to strengthen and enforce international order. After World War II, America had the wisdom to shape institutions to keep the peace and support human progress, from NATO and the United Nations, to the World Bank and I.M.F. These institutions are not perfect, but they have been a force multiplier. They reducing the need for unilateral American action and increase restraint among other nations.

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In other words, these institutions have been the United States' tools of foreign and economic domination.

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I believe in American exceptionalism with every fiber of my being.

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we’re putting in place new restrictions on how America collects and uses intelligence, because we will have fewer partners and be less effective if a perception takes hold that we’re conducting surveillance against ordinary citizens.

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If Snowden hadn't come forward, the WH would STILL be OK with the NSA collecting information on... well... everyone. In fact, the NSA is STILL collecting information on everyone. Nothing has changed.

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That does not change my opinion that almost all nations will behave the same as ours has, given the wealth and opportunity.

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That does not change my opinion that almost all nations will behave the same as ours has, given the wealth and opportunity.

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Then you have chosen to ignore the historic examples of nations/ kingdoms that COULD HAVE been hemispheric-class predators but chose not to be.

You/re right, NIKI. Your opinion is too firmly entrenched to be changed by anything as simple as mere facts.

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China, the Harrapan civilization, and the Minoan civilization. Quite possibly more, it's just that I'm not a historian.

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China: http://countrystudies.us/china/83.htm
Despite the burst of progress in the 1980s, the Chinese economy still shared many basic characteristics with the economies of other developing countries. The gross national product per capita in 1986 was -Y849, or about US$228 (at the 1986 exchange rate), reflecting the low average level of labor productivity. As in many countries that did not begin sustained industrialization efforts until the middle of the twentieth century, the majority of the Chinese labor force--over 60 percent--was still employed in agriculture, which produced around 30 percent of the value of national output. Agricultural work still was performed primarily by hand. Modern equipment was in general use in industry but was largely typified by outdated designs and low levels of efficiency.

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I'm talking about China when it burned its imperial fleet, but could have easily taken over southern Asia and parts of the ME.

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I'm sorry, I did not realize you were talking about a small part of their history and ignoring the rest.

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That does not change my opinion that almost all nations will behave the same as ours has, given the wealth and opportunity.

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the world's worst problem RIGHT NOW is the USA. So many nations would be doing so much better if we just stopped deliberately fucking everyone over.

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