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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I can't believe there's an argument going on about "who was there first", and the answers were restricted to Jews and Arabs!

What about the ancient Greeks, Hittites, Phoenicians, Egyptians, etc? One needs only to search inhabitants+ancient+Palestine in order to see the TRUE "original inhabitants", although I imagine there were peoples living in the area before even then.

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I wasn;t arguing with GSTGSDFR I was pointing out I dont think its a good argument anyway

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
It has always be the contention of the Palestinians that the Jews stole their land.

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It has always be the contention of the Palestinians that the Jews stole their land.

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Thank you, the voice of the Palestinian People!

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It has always be the contention of the Palestinians that the Jews stole their land.

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Thank you, the voice of the Palestinian People!

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Do you understand anything you read precious?

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Do you understand anything you read precious?

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Yippie ki-yay, motherfucker.

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THAT Gaza?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it.

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Morons.

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Ha ha ha ha, you're pissed 'cause you totally bought that bogus nuclear device story; I can tell! Ha ha ha ha ha....

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Yeah, 'simple' brilliance does tend to 'stun' simple folk.

I love this post, AU. Can't say that all the time these days...

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How far back, and how disconnected to THIS thread can you possibly get.

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I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it.

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Yeah, 'simple' brilliance does tend to 'stun' simple folk.

I love this post, AU. Can't say that all the time these days....

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

YOU think I'M the one who came up w/ that commentary on Israel.

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I posted a commentary by Larry Miller, as clearly indicated.

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I posted a commentary by Larry Miller, as clearly indicated.

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Larry Miller the actor/comedian?

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I side with the Palestinian PEOPLE ...

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I posted a commentary by Larry Miller, as clearly indicated.

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Yep. I heard Dennis ( no relation ) Miller mention those remarks on his radio show.

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Jongs ... Who's Ruby ?

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THAT Gaza?

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"Somebody has to speak for these people. You all got on this boat for different reasons, but you all come to the same place. So now I’m asking more of you than I have before. Maybe all. Sure as I know anything I know this, they will try again. Maybe on another [continent], maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people...[die]. And I do not hold to that. So no more running. I aim to misbehave."

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The good news for today is that, ever since the start of the cease fire, no rockets have been fired into Israel. Which also means no shelling into Gaza.

See how that works ?

Now,I'd be dollars to doughnuts that not one shell or air strike from Israel will occur UNLESS Hamas starts firing rockets.

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The good news for today is that, ever since the start of the cease fire, no rockets have been fired into Israel. Which also means no shelling into Gaza.

See how that works ?

Now,I'd be dollars to doughnuts that not one shell or air strike from Israel will occur UNLESS Hamas starts firing rockets.

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But that isn't fair - how are they supposed to kill Jews this way? Isn't the purpose of a cease-fire to kill more jews without allowing Jews to shoot back?

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The good news for today is that, ever since the start of the cease fire, no rockets have been fired into Israel. Which also means no shelling into Gaza.

See how that works ?

Now,I'd be dollars to doughnuts that not one shell or air strike from Israel will occur UNLESS Hamas starts firing rockets.

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But that isn't fair - how are they supposed to kill Jews this way? Isn't the purpose of a cease-fire to kill more jews without allowing Jews to shoot back?

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Hamas had built ( at least ) 32 tunnels INTO Israel, and was on the verge of conducting an all out assault on Israeli citizens.

This fact should... I say SHOULD stuff a sock in the whole ' poor Palestinians ' mantra, but we all know it won't. These tunnels weren't for sheltering children or old people from the mean Jews and their precision air strikes. They were built for one thing only - to attack civilians in Israel.

Such tunnels have been under construction for years. Great effort and $ went into the building of these tunnels, and we can only guess that there are many more like them which link areas underground in Gaza.

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Question: Israel has the Mossad, right? Their version of MI-6, correct? So, why cannot Mossad agents be deployed undercover to identify & assassinate scumbag HAMAS manipulators- the ones promoting terror and ultimately putting their own people at risk for fun & profit?

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maybe they're busy w/ others who are trying to infiltrate Israel.

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So, why cannot Mossad agents be deployed undercover to identify & assassinate scumbag HAMAS manipulators- the ones promoting terror and ultimately putting their own people at risk for fun & profit?

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many of the Hamas leaders are living outside the region in places like Qatar, and they have security protection all the time.

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Question: Israel has the Mossad, right? Their version of MI-6, correct? So, why cannot Mossad agents be deployed undercover to identify & assassinate scumbag HAMAS manipulators- the ones promoting terror and ultimately putting their own people at risk for fun & profit?

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The killing of Zaiad Muchasi, Fatah representative to Cyprus, by an explosion in his Athens hotel room in 1973.[16]
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The assassination of Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh - a senior Hamas military leader - in Dubai, 2010, was suspected to be the work of Mossad, and there were eight Irish passports (six of which were used) fraudulently obtained by the Israeli embassy in Dublin, Ireland for use by apparent Mossad agents in the operation. The Irish government was angered over the use of Irish passports, summoned the Israeli ambassador and expelled the Israeli diplomat deemed responsible from Dublin, following an investigation. One of the passports was registered to a residence on Pembroke Road, Ballsbridge, on the same road as the Israeli embassy. The house was empty when later searched, but there was suspicion it had been used as a Mossad safe house in the past.[27][28] Mossad is reported to have a working relationship with Ireland's national intelligence agency, the military Directorate of Intelligence (G2),[29] and has previously tipped the Irish authorities off about arms shipments from the Middle East to Ireland for use by dissident republican militants, resulting in their interception and arrests.[30] Mossad is also believed to cooperate with the British government in combating IRA terrorism, including involvement in Operation Flavius, 1988.[31]

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So, why cannot Mossad agents be deployed undercover to identify & assassinate scumbag HAMAS manipulators- the ones promoting terror and ultimately putting their own people at risk for fun & profit?

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Because it's not a movie. The good guys don't win in 2 hours.

It's very difficult for an agent to penetrate a terrorist organization, and even if one did, then what? How many is he going to be able to kill? Also, many of the Hamas leaders are living outside the region in places like Qatar, and they have security protection all the time.

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And, Hey, Sig, why do you keep referring to it as UNWRA, instead of its correct abbreviation UNRWA.

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Because I just washed my hands and I can't do a thing with them? Boy, you should see my typing BEFORE spell-checking!

I read another article, I think I linked it here somehwere, which has a much better narrative of what's going on. Apparently, the school (at the time, there was only one) where they found the rockets was shuttered, and not actively being used for sheltering refugees. AFTER the school which was housing refugees was shelled, the administrator (who I got the impression worked directly for the UN) went to inspect the other schools and found the rockets. He was very upset, and reported them right away.

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Even Hillary admitted the Hamasians "are required to shoot their missles from schools and hospitals" because of the "population density" of the strip.

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It makes no sense - Hamas will never win any violent conflict. They'll just do more damage to themselves. Their rockets and their money will eventually run out - not so for Israel. It's pretty basic.

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Their only aim is to win the PR war, not the actual war. More images of dead Palestinians is the goal here. World sympathy towards them and animosity towards Israel.

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Their only aim is to win the PR war, not the actual war. More images of dead Palestinians is the goal here. World sympathy towards them and animosity towards Israel.

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Then why does Israel insist in playing their game? Being the bad guy to their victim? Do they really feel THAT threatened?

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*The IDF is a terrorist organization that commits war crimes. They're no better than the people they claim to be fighting.

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It makes no sense - Hamas will never win any violent conflict. They'll just do more damage to themselves. Their rockets and their money will eventually run out - not so for Israel. It's pretty basic.

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