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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And overall, I would consider the regular posters here within the top 10 to 5% of the intelligence quotient of the general populace.... I can only imagine what truly stupid people do in their day to day lives with this insistent deluge of non-productive information.....



I'm just saying that there is another way.....

It IS possible to Control this information if you deny it from even becoming a part of your consciousness in the first place.


Seriously, everyone.....

GROW THE FUCK UP.

It's like goddamned high-school all over again, what with all the he-said, she-said.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't stress about a bunch of shit I can't control.....

When I come back here and even read the titles of the threads I don't even click on because I don't care to know anything about them, I feel true pity for everyone. What horrible things you all are bombarded with on a daily basis.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Control the Information by Denying the facts? Denying the truth? Denying reality? What form of brainwashing have you undergone to think this is reasonable?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't stress about a bunch of shit I can't control.....

When I come back here and even read the titles of the threads I don't even click on because I don't care to know anything about them, I feel true pity for everyone. What horrible things you all are bombarded with on a daily basis.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Awww, and you were doing so well.

Some of us don't have the option of burying our heads to be happy, Jack.

I don't participate in threads here because I don't think it's conducive to a solution anymore. But I definitely absorb all the negativity in the world I can, because information is information, and it'll bite you if you ignore it. Even better is if you can fight back somehow.

In life you're either fighting or you're dying. That's all you CAN do. Giving up means you've decided you're already dead.

Go and be content and complacent. The fight will still be here when you realize the world and other people still exist outside the bubble you've made for yourself.

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Originally posted by G:
In the spirit of don't worry, be happy:

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I'm not telling you that burying your head will make you happy either, although I'm alluding to the Fact that it couldn't hurt in that regard....

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
You clearly after all this time don't know who I am, and I'm no longer even able to be disappointed.

Have a good life Jack. Good luck with the chafing.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Control the Information by Denying the facts? Denying the truth? Denying reality? What form of brainwashing have you undergone to think this is reasonable?

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See... now THIS is a productive conversation!

I have no intention to argue with you, nor do I think that you do with me. I believe you misinterpreted my meaning and I'll be the first to admit that that is at least 50% my fault. I'd like to think that you may actually agree at least slightly with my way of thinking if I can take the time to better explain it.

I think our breakdown in understanding came when I said "It IS possible to Control this information if you deny it from even becoming a part of your consciousness in the first place."


I did not mean at all to deny that the Facts are there, or that in many more cases than not there is actual truth to the Facts. There are Facts everywhere. All of our life we're surrounded with Facts and all of the opinions based off of these facts. FACTS, FACTS, FACTS! We're being strangled to death by facts.

What I'm saying is that 90% of the time or more, the Facts hold no meaning one way or another to my personal enrichment or well being. Saying that even 10% of the Facts possibly do is being egregiously generous, in my opinion.

I read up on local politics and most of that was done when I was trying to do one thing or another like fight my property taxes and I ended up voting in several low-key elections to get the right people into office that managed to shave my property taxes over $250 this year over last year by trying to get our town out of Gary's taxing district if they don't curb their rediculous spending. They also confiscated computers and several hig profile local politicians and their nepotistic hires lost their cushy jobs.

The Facts about the potential presidents in next election don't mean anything to me personally (READ:) after the primaries. What I mean by that is NOBODY ever imagined Obama would win in Indiana and they were right because my vote for Romney was one of 120,000 votes above what Obama got in my state. In other words, I wish I had voted for Daffy Duck since that would have at least been funny.

My point is, I won't even vote in the Presidential election coming up. I will vote for my choice for in the primaries, and I will vote for local politicians in the general, but I seriously think I'm going to do a write-in vote for Mayor McCheese for President. No matter what the Facts are surrounding the Democratic and Republican nominees, the Republican is going to win Indiana by 120,000 votes give or take a thousand.



And about my dislike for knowing much about the Facts that are thrust upon us everyday by the media, I got to learn about the Fact that some crazy "isis" people just beheaded a reporter. It's a sad thing that happened, and I fully hope that the people impacted by this make sure that everything is being done to bring the people responsible to Justice and they have to pay for the crime they commited. My heart goes out to his/her loved ones in this dark day.

Personally, I'm annoyed that I now know that this happened. I had a great day at work and then I have to hear about this crap because I happened to call my Grams back when I realized she called me the other day and left a message. She even suggested that I "Google" it, which was actually a half joke she's the only person in the world that will turn down a free computer that I've offered to build for her to get on the internet to do email with her grand kids and stuff.......



Bottom line.... I have my ear to the ground on the local and state political scene. I feel that I've lucked out and I'm generally surrounded by people with a similar mind set to me so the votes tend to go my way even when they're really close. Beyond that, I'm self sufficient and I possess a certain number of "aggression deterrents" if anyone ever tries to invade my space.

I don't ever watch movies like Hostil or Saw or the Hills Have Eyes. Hannibal was the only movie I've EVER turned off halfway through. Why the hell would I want to hear about every single horrible thing that people do to each other in real life? Why the hell do so many people ingest so much of this poison every day that it justifies having multiple 24/7 news programs that, according to my Grams, have been "teasing" just a little more of the beheading video as the hours go by?????

I hope you at least understand where I'm coming from now JSF. Even if only 10% of the Facts out there could ever possibly matter in my life, the flip side is that at least 50% of the Facts the media presents are ones that I just don't even want to know about. Furthermore, at least 20% of them are so vile in nature that I can't even comprehend why they seem to fascinate people so.....

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Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And overall, I would consider the regular posters here within the top 10 to 5% of the intelligence quotient of the general populace.... I can only imagine what truly stupid people do in their day to day lives with this insistent deluge of non-productive information.....



I'm just saying that there is another way.....

It IS possible to Control this information if you deny it from even becoming a part of your consciousness in the first place.


Seriously, everyone.....

GROW THE FUCK UP.

It's like goddamned high-school all over again, what with all the he-said, she-said.

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Control the Information by Denying the facts? Denying the truth? Denying reality? What form of brainwashing have you undergone to think this is reasonable?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I'm not mollified. You seem to have decided to have somebody else perform your filtering of your input, you have abdicated your responsibility and duty to stay informed if you are to vote - IIRC Ben Franklin said the electorate must remain vigilantly informed, educated, and intellectually active (He was a major advocate of Postal distribution of materials and information). You seem to have delegated these responsibilities to others instead of absorbing the overview and deciding for yourself what to retain.
I think I understand what you have said, and I'm afraid I disagree.
I have often been asked by friends and acquaintances why I watch bad movies, and I explain that if I am not familiar with how bad a movie can be, I won't know how good a movie is when I see it - I won't be able to recognize it, I won't have a reference.

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Well, he's a Republican, of course, so that's really all it took.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I'm not mollified. You seem to have decided to have somebody else perform your filtering of your input, you have abdicated your responsibility and duty to stay informed if you are to vote - IIRC Ben Franklin said the electorate must remain vigilantly informed, educated, and intellectually active (He was a major advocate of Postal distribution of materials and information). You seem to have delegated these responsibilities to others instead of absorbing the overview and deciding for yourself what to retain.
I think I understand what you have said, and I'm afraid I disagree.
I have often been asked by friends and acquaintances why I watch bad movies, and I explain that if I am not familiar with how bad a movie can be, I won't know how good a movie is when I see it - I won't be able to recognize it, I won't have a reference.

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I decided to have somebody else filter my input? I don't understand that statement. I don't have cable, or even local HD stations so I don't get any news broadcasts. As cheap and as poor as I am, I could spring 100 bucks for an antenna on my house and a converter and never pay a monthly fee for basic TV. I had a newspaper subscription for a while but they never threw it close to my doorstep and I had to search for it every morning. I have cable internet and access to every story i could find on TV or in the paper, and yet I Choose not to read about things that don't pertain to me.

Not getting how I have given somebody else this responsibility. I feel that I've done a fine job on my own of making sure that I don't have to read any of the horrible crap you have no control over that fills your mind everyday.


I'm no stranger to "bad movies"..... Leprechaun In The Hood and Troll 2 probably being my two favorites.

When I'm talking about bad movies I'm talking about stuff that some sick people might consider porn. The simple fact that there were enough people paying the entry fee to justify SEVEN installments of Saw over eight years makes me vomit in my mouth a bit.

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Originally posted by JO753:
Good to see you are back here in your role az the finger on the pulse uv 6string, 6string.

A suprizing bit uv info you did indirectly provide for me. I didnt think your 'top 10% - 5% estimate wuz credible, so I googld IQ % distribution & found this chart:
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx

You coud very well be rite! Duznt take much to get into the top 10%!

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And overall, I would consider the regular posters here within the top 10 to 5% of the intelligence quotient of the general populace.

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Bekuz he rote

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And overall, I would consider the regular posters here within the top 10 to 5% of the intelligence quotient of the general populace.

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He iz saying we are not a typical group.

Also, you arent thinking uv the % correctly.

If you take any group uv 100, 1000, 1,000,000 - anything below the total population, the % iz not garranteed to match the total population %.


In other wordz, just kuz you round up 100 random people duznt mean the smartest wun haz an IQ over 135.

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You are not GUARANTEED to have a person in the top one percentile in a random gathering of 100 people, but it is statistically probable.

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You are not GUARANTEED to have a person in the top one percentile in a random gathering of 100 people, but it is statistically probable.

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You are assuming a very hi level uv global homogeneity.

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Originally posted by JO753:
I see wut your mistake iz.

You are thinking a random 100 selected frum the entire population.

That woud be virtually impossibl to pull off, even if you get past the problemz uv access.

If you are a crazy billionaire and decide 'I'm gunnu show JO no matter how much it costs' and actually get it dun, you woud certainly find out that the averaage for your 100 duznt even reach the published average. (consider who happenz to be accessable for thoze tests normally)

If insted, you think in practical termz, where you happen to be wen you start grabbing your participants will make a big difference.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Can't argue with that there. I think I somehow managed to avoid seeing any of those - kinda forgot they weren't around anymore, until you mentioned it here. I don't consider those to be the "bad" movies I was referring to. Try a Ewe Boll movie sometime. Something either poorly acted, cast, edited, choreographed, scored, bad continuity, having boom mics in the frame, etc. Something intentionally in poor taste or sense does not automatically fall into the category I was referring to.

Rememberfy - Leprechaun did have this hottie in the led role named something like Jennifer Aniston - before she was cast in Friends. I enjoyed watching her in that flick.

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Originally posted by JO753:
Good to see you are back here in your role az the finger on the pulse uv 6string, 6string.

A suprizing bit uv info you did indirectly provide for me. I didnt think your 'top 10% - 5% estimate wuz credible, so I googld IQ % distribution & found this chart:
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx

You coud very well be rite! Duznt take much to get into the top 10%!

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Are you claiming that some states have greater or lesser deviation from the norm?

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Originally posted by JO753:
I'm glad yr talking to me agen! I thot you hated me eternally after the last election cycle. All my RL frendz had also gotten trapped in the GoP eko chamber and wuns youre inside, its next to impossibl to get out.

You seem to see the 100 averaj the same way I do - grab 100 peopl off the street & see wut you get. Thats wut Jewel iz not understanding.

I am in a dum area. Been here for 20 yirz and I cant help but think that its not had a good influens on me. It certainly haz givin me a negativ opinion about humanz in jeneral. http://www.nooalf.com

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Can't argue with that there. I think I somehow managed to avoid seeing any of those - kinda forgot they weren't around anymore, until you mentioned it here. I don't consider those to be the "bad" movies I was referring to. Try a Ewe Boll movie sometime. Something either poorly acted, cast, edited, choreographed, scored, bad continuity, having boom mics in the frame, etc. Something intentionally in poor taste or sense does not automatically fall into the category I was referring to.

Rememberfy - Leprechaun did have this hottie in the led role named something like Jennifer Aniston - before she was cast in Friends. I enjoyed watching her in that flick.

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I think we have come to an agreement about what makes a good bad-movie :)

I won't say I've loved everything Uwe Boll made (I definately didn't), but he's had a few rough gems, or at least classic moments. My favorite part of any Uwe Boll movie that didn't involve Kristianna Loken having sex has to be Michael Madson's entire performance in BloodRayne. He's always been one of my favorite "That Guy" actors that I feel is truly underrated, but if BloodRayne was the only movie you'd ever seen him in then you wouldn't wonder why you'd never seen him in anything else before. He seriously spat out every single line as if he just didn't give a shit and only was in it for the paycheck. ;)

I'm not a huge fan of Uwe's movies, but as a person I think he's fascinating. How does somebody make one lousy movie after another and manage to bag actors like Madson, let alone Ray Liotta and Ben Kingsley?

Not to mention, he will challenge critics who give him lousy reviews to a boxing match, and likely kick their ass if they accept too. (It's totally true.... Google it!)

Haha! Jennifer Aniston in Leprechaun 1! If I wasn't such a movie dork I probably wouldn't have remembered that one. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by JO753:
Good to see you are back here in your role az the finger on the pulse uv 6string, 6string.

A suprizing bit uv info you did indirectly provide for me. I didnt think your 'top 10% - 5% estimate wuz credible, so I googld IQ % distribution & found this chart:
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx

You coud very well be rite! Duznt take much to get into the top 10%!

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Wow J0753. Haven't spoken to you in ages. How ya been? :)

That's a VERY interesting chart there. Just going by the numbers on the chart, and the fact that I always scored in the 99% for every category given in the "IOWA" tests when I grew up, that would put me at about 137 IQ which I honestly can't argue with. It's a number lower than I got on a REAL IQ test, and it's much lower than supposed online IQ tests, but I like to err on the side of caution. I always thought that 120 would be my sweet-spot, but the numbers don't lie, right? ;)

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Given the numbers though, I would like to restate what I said earlier. I think everyone that posts in the RWED regularly is at least in the top 5% if not much higher on average. The reason being that I think you have to be pretty intelligent to LOVE Firefly enough to find a website devoted to it, and even more intelligent to find yourself engaged in political discussions on a daily basis here..... even if the threads usually devolve into tantrums and personal attacks (just like you'd expect all the mouth breathers at some Once Upon A Time fansite to do if they were talking politics).


When I said I thought I was 120, I didn't realize that I was only smarter than 8 other random people. I have to apologize to everyone else for thinking that we were all around 120 or so, or at least started off there. :)

137 would make me the smartest person in a room full of 96 people. That does seem a little arrogant, especially since that's a hard sell to ever prove.....

126-127 is the sweet spot for 5%. I can agree that unless I'm in a room full of Ivy League graduates or a "Walter White" convention, that if you put 20 random people in a room that I'm likely the smartest one out of all of them.

OHHHHH.... I FORGOT TO MENTION THE RWED...... DUH!

Yup. You heard it here first. Even if you don't like me or things I've said, I'm saying right now that at any given point I could quite possibly be the stupidest person of 20 of us posting in a thread. A difference of only 5 IQ points can make you smarter than everyone in a room filled with 44 people, MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY AS ME!!!!

Yeah.... We're all pretty smart here, even if a lot of us act stupid a lot of the time. :)
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You seem to see the 100 averaj the same way I do - grab 100 peopl off the street & see wut you get. Thats wut Jewel iz not understanding.

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Are you claiming that some states have greater or lesser deviation from the norm?

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Wut I orijinally meant wuz that the world iz not very homojenized.

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Then therez the talent factor. Peopl like to do thingz they are good at, so smart people like to take IQ tests. How can that not hav skewed the average up over the decadez? I had a GF with an IQ over 160 who woud often show up with a new test to beat me at.

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Which film was Ms Loken having sex in?
I always enjoy Michael Madsen. He has been in several of my faves, particularly Mullholland Falls. What a cast for that one. Except for Melanie Griffiths.
I think his trick is money - hand out boat loads until said star says OK.

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You bring up another point here. The difference in IQ points, or score. Many people do not understand that a difference in more than 15 IQ points means two people will never, ever, fully understand each other, fully communicate accurately with each other. So when hanging out in the stratosphere the disagreements and miscommunications radically increase.

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Originally posted by JO753:
Its funny how you can get locked into a perspectiv & no amount uv info can pry you out uv it. Happenz to me sumtimez, then later I will realize why I wuz rong.

Coud be me or you in this case! But, I'm leaning toward it being you since youv contradicted your own pozition at least twice and dont seem to be paying attention to my counter examplez.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Which film was Ms Loken having sex in?
I always enjoy Michael Madsen. He has been in several of my faves, particularly Mullholland Falls. What a cast for that one. Except for Melanie Griffiths.
I think his trick is money - hand out boat loads until said star says OK.

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It wasn't hardcore sex or anything. It's been a long time, but I don't think her top even comes off. I just remember her grabbing bars from a jail cell while he got her from behind standing up when she was playing BloodRayne. Definitely not the most memorable sex scene ever, but then again, look who was directing it :)

I've never seen Mullholland Falls. At first I thought you meant Mullholland Drive. I'll have to check that one out. It came out back when I was still in high school. :)
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Where do you think I contradicted myself? Twice?

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However, I have forgotten to mention one truth.
The best way of measuring how intelligent a person is is to gauge how often they agree with me.

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If you are hanging out at the bookstore looking at the shelves with logic puzzles, it might mean the person standing next to you is of above average intellect.

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Be sure not to look at which role Bruce Dern has. At that time, it was the first role that he played which was against his type - I know he has repeated since. And at the time Rob Lowe was looked down upon in Hollywood, so this role was poignant. And be sure to watch for Ed Lauter - the way his role works out was a rarity at the time. One of my fave Chris Penn performances. Jen Connelly is IN that time.

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