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Have you given the victim, Michael Brown, the same "best (for his sake) defense" consideration?

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Officer Wilson has no ' hands up, don't shoot ' campaign being run for him.

All he has are the facts.

Facts often don't sell too well these days, unfortunately.

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Or have you gone out of your way to portray him as a bully and a thug, even going so far as to insist that there cannot even be a debate about what (or who) is seen on the videotape from the store?

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No need to go out of my way. The video clearly shows Brown acted exactly like a bully and a thug. And it's not going out of my way in the least to state clearly that the video shows what it shows.

Are you going to debate the Ray Rice video too ? Please, by all means, tell us all that he was defending himself against a vicious , angry woman.


Go for it.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

$150,000 potential legal defense fund vs $130,000 memorial fund?

Apples & oranges.

It's not a contest. The one who raised the most $ isn't determined the " winner ", or right by some holy fiat.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Boy are you desperate!

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The Latest:

A new witness has stated that he saw Brown hold his hands up and say "Ok, ok, ok,ok ok, ok." But Wilson just continued to shoot. (as reported by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch).


SGG

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Boy are you desperate!

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How so ? I have no dog in this fight, so to say.

Neither do I, but let's stick to the facts..............okay?

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I posted the fact that both have supporters, and no one can say that Wilson is without, despite the fact he shot an unarmed man for no apparent reason, he has his supporters.

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You don't know that Brown was shot " for no apparent reason ". If that's the case, then Wilson should face charges. If he was defending himself , then yes, that is a reason. Cops don't generally go around offing 18 yr olds, in broad day light, for no apparent reason.

Yes, I do. Wilson has been sequestered by the local police, both he and his police chief (who was caught in a lie) have offered nothing by way of explanation or stating the circumstances leading up to the fatal overkill. Wilson has not surrendered himself to the proper authorities and given his side of the story as to why he would shoot an unarmed young man like a dirty dog in broad daylight. Exactly my point! No one knows why except him and a now dead victim.

Remember, the chief of police said that Wilson was NOT aware of the so-called robbery, at the time of the shooting.

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Brown, no matter his crime, shoplifting cigarillos or jaywalking, should have been fined or arrested, but shot to death is, without a doubt, one of the most despicable acts of violence in the U.S.

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Naw, not if he went after the cop, and the cop was defending himself. A far more despicable act of violence can easily be found.

There has NOT been one account of an attempted assault on Wilson, if so, who made that statement and where is he/she now.

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In New York a man was killed by an illegal choke hold for merely selling loose cigarettes, the most that he deserved was a fine or, at the most, arrest. The man paid with his life.

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Accounts I heard was that there was no illegal choke hold. Another case where a large man got animated and belligerent w/ the cops who were left with no other choice but to subdue him.

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It was determined by the Medical Examiner that it was a homicide by choke or asphyxiation.

At no time did I compare the fundraising to a contest. Nor should it be, but Wilson is not the victim here. But he continues to hide, a la OJ Simpson hiding from the law and justice.

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Hiding from street justice ? I don't see how anyone can blame him for that. Especially if he did nothing wrong. But if he didn't, then he'll face the music, in court, not by a group of folks who want to lynch him in the town square.

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No street justice, just your everyday garden variety justice with REAL law enforcement and a REAL investigation. That's what the people, the good people, of Ferguson demanded.

The Latest:

A new witness has stated that he saw Brown hold his hands up and say "Ok, ok, ok,ok ok, ok." But Wilson just continued to shoot. (as reported by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch).

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A "new" witness ? The case is how old and just now, another witness is emerging ? After all the politics and vitriol, I'd be suspect.

He was interviewed by the FBI and just recently submitted his story to the press.

People sometimes lie. People with an agenda. A USC football player , a team captain, claimed he injured his ankles by jumping 2 stories to save his drowning nephew , in the pool below. The kid's mother, the brother of the football player, went public to thank the football player for saving her son's life. They both were lying. There was no pool rescue attempt. There WAS , however, a robbery attempt in an apartment building, and the suspect matched the description of the football player very closely.

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Yes, I do. Wilson has been sequestered by the local police, both he and his police chief (who was caught in a lie) have offered nothing by way of explanation or stating the circumstances leading up to the fatal overkill. Wilson has not surrendered himself to the proper authorities and given his side of the story as to why he would shoot an unarmed young man like a dirty dog in broad daylight. Exactly my point! No one knows why except him and a now dead victim.

Remember, the chief of police said that Wilson was NOT aware of the so-called robbery, at the time of the shooting.

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There has NOT been one account of an attempted assault on Wilson, if so, who made that statement and where is he/she now.

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Acute and chronic bronchial asthma, obesity and hypertensive cardiovascular disease were listed as contributing conditions in a controversial death .

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You don't know that Brown was shot " for no apparent reason ". If that's the case, then Wilson should face charges. If he was defending himself , then yes, that is a reason. Cops don't generally go around offing 18 yr olds, in broad day light, for no apparent reason.

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Yes, I do. Wilson has been sequestered by the local police, both he and his police chief (who was caught in a lie) have offered nothing by way of explanation or stating the circumstances leading up to the fatal overkill. Wilson has not surrendered himself to the proper authorities and given his side of the story as to why he would shoot an unarmed young man like a dirty dog in broad daylight. Exactly my point! No one knows why except him and a now dead victim.

Remember, the chief of police said that Wilson was NOT aware of the so-called robbery, at the time of the shooting.

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No, you don't. You're placing the entire weight of this case on the testimony of one unnamed witness. You do NOT know what happened.

And the police chief ? He's lied in YOUR eyes, maybe, but that's not been established as fact. There's a lot of confusion over the specifics of this case, why thing were done, why weren't they done, and who knew what at what specific time. But as for the facts of what took place, we know very little at this time.

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There has NOT been one account of an attempted assault on Wilson, if so, who made that statement and where is he/she now.

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The busted eye socket report doesn't count ? Even if not " broken ", there still was a report that the officer was injured. That doesn't happen in the scenario where he shoots an unarmed citizen from a distance. Where's the photographs of his injured eye ? I don't know. I too would like to see if it exists, and if he was indeed injured. But don't say there's been NO reports of any assault. Just none confirmed.

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Acute and chronic bronchial asthma, obesity and hypertensive cardiovascular disease were listed as contributing conditions in a controversial death .

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The guy was doing something illegal and resisted arrest. HE is the one who initiated the physical altercation, by refusing to cooperate, not the cops. I had heard there was no illegal choke hold, but the examiner report finds otherwise. Per regulations, the choke hold may have not been 'illegal', but it still resulted in his death. He didn't need to resist to the degree he did, nor did he deserve to die.

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Fact: Where is the police report of the robbery?
Fact: Was Wilson ever treated for his injuries?
Fact: If so, where?
Fact: Why is he hiding?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Fact: Where is the police report of the robbery?
Fact: Was Wilson ever treated for his injuries?
Fact: If so, where?
Fact: Why is he hiding?

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A question isn't a fact.

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Ok, there IS no police report of the robbery
Wilson has No injuries

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You don't know that Brown was shot " for no apparent reason ". If that's the case, then Wilson should face charges. If he was defending himself , then yes, that is a reason. Cops don't generally go around offing 18 yr olds, in broad day light, for no apparent reason.

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Unless they're black. In which case, there are plenty of examples.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So let's see.

Brown - didn't steal. Not a suspect. Didn't break anybody's eye socket. Shot at a distance, with his hands up.

And rappy wrong, wrong, REALLY wrong, wrong, and wrong. Again.

That about cover it?

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Ok, there IS no police report of the robbery
Wilson has No injuries

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I don't know if those first two are true.

As for Wilson being in 'hiding' ? So what ? Is there an BOLO issued for him ? The cops know how he can be reached, which is really all that matters, isn't it ?

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Perhaps the Grand Jury will get a glimpse at them, if it is ever convened.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The police report of the robbery has not been made public, if one exists.

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

So, gonna slink your BLATANTLY OBVIOUS SOCKPUPPET Jewelstaitefan in here to pretend it's not just YOU disputing the bloody fucking obvious, Auraptor ?
Or maybe try to argue it yourself in light of the increasing evidence that the cop in question is a fucking murderer, something YOU have no goddamn problem with whatever so long as the victim is darker than you ?
Pissant!

-Frem

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Oh PUH-leeze, Second, I think we all know, or at least are well aware, that a Grand Jury could indict a fucking 'Ham Sandwich', UNLESS it's a law enforcement officer, in which case they will look the other way AS HARD AS THEY CAN, lest they themselves come under the gun of The State for refusing to comply.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not answering the question.

Figures.

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So, gonna slink your BLATANTLY OBVIOUS SOCKPUPPET Jewelstaitefan in here to pretend it's not just YOU disputing the bloody fucking obvious, Auraptor ?

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Or maybe try to argue it yourself in light of the increasing evidence that the cop in question is a fucking murderer, something YOU have no goddamn problem with whatever so long as the victim is darker than you ?
Pissant!

-Frem

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

So, gonna slink your BLATANTLY OBVIOUS SOCKPUPPET Jewelstaitefan in here to pretend it's not just YOU disputing the bloody fucking obvious, Auraptor ?

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Nope. I have no sock puppet. You know this. And yet, you insist on making a bigger ass of yourself.

Huh.

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Or maybe try to argue it yourself in light of the increasing evidence that the cop in question is a fucking murderer, something YOU have no goddamn problem with whatever so long as the victim is darker than you ?
Pissant!

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No evidence to that conclusion has yet come out yet, so again, you're flat out wrong.

The amount of sunlight a person reflects has no bearing what so ever here, or in any case.

Wish you racists would figure that out.

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Not answering the question.

Figures.

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What a piece of shit you are.

Claim to post only "facts" and when a list of you leaping to whatever "blame the black kid" nugget of info you can find is produced, you ignore it and put the blame on others.

Please, do the world a favor, eat a nice bowl of glass while lying on the freeway.

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Not answering the question.

Figures.

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What a piece of shit you are.

Claim to post only "facts" and when a list of you leaping to whatever "blame the black kid" nugget of info you can find is produced, you ignore it and put the blame on others.

Please, do the world a favor, eat a nice bowl of glass while lying on the freeway.

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The question was never answered, and the list by no means, what so ever, shows me leaping to any such conclusion.

I will not comply w/ your asinine request. Get over it.

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Oh PUH-leeze, Second, I think we all know, or at least are well aware, that a Grand Jury could indict a fucking 'Ham Sandwich', UNLESS it's a law enforcement officer, in which case they will look the other way AS HARD AS THEY CAN, lest they themselves come under the gun of The State for refusing to comply.

Lets not PRETEND there's any "justice" in this SHAM of a proceeding, neh ?

http://columbialawreview.org/ham-sandwich-nation_reynolds/
http://www.wisenberglaw.com/White-Collar-Criminal-Defense/Grand-Jury-I
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The police report of the robbery has not been made public, if one exists.

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The video of Brown taking several cartons of cigars from the counter, and then the shop keeper coming out to confront him and try to keep him from leaving the store, however, was released.

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Same holds true for the injury report, if one exists, it hasn't been made public.
Perhaps the Grand Jury will get a glimpse at them, if it is ever convened.

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Oddly, the same sorts of stories were told about George Zimmerman, and then eventually, the photos did show up. Time will tell , I suppose.

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As for Wilson. True the cops know his whereabouts, so maybe he should keep his mouth shut until called upon. Right now he's in the catbird seat, every witness is spilling their guts and he's just hanging back like a spider waiting for his next er, meal.


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If you were him, a trial INSIDE the court house would more beneficial than outside.

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Oh, the question about your bogus claims? I thought I did that very well.

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You and you alone think Brown didn't steal anything. I guess you think the clerk was trying to get dance lessons from Michael before he left the store, was that what we saw on the video ?

Frelling imbecile.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Seems the Wilson / Brown interaction was agitated by something.

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Seems the Wilson / Brown interaction was agitated by something.

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Yes, it was:

Racism on the part of the cop, and
Authoritarian policing,
Backed up by superiority of weapons

That's exactly what happened. Because every white American (police included) knows that young black males are possible criminals. All you have to do is check your personal reaction whenever a young black male comes into view to understand this is true.

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Seems the Wilson / Brown interaction was agitated by something.

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Yes, it was:

Racism on the part of the cop, and
Authoritarian policing,
Backed up by superiority of weapons

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That's exactly what happened. Because every white American (police included) knows that young black males are possible criminals. All you have to do is check your personal reaction whenever a young black male comes into view to understand this is true.

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Yes, it was:

Racism on the part of the cop, and
Authoritarian policing,
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That's exactly what happened. Because every white American (police included) knows that young black males are possible criminals. All you have to do is check your personal reaction whenever a young black male comes into view to understand this is true.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Bottom line is that there is a young unarmed black male dead at the hands of a white cop;

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“There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—and then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Bottom line is that there is a young unarmed black male dead at the hands of a white cop;

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Why should the color of either be relevant ? A young man is shot dead, by one who has taken an oath to 'serve and protect '. That alone is tragic enough, and to amplify baseless claims of 'racism' w/ out an iota of evidence only deepens pain, it doesn't make anything better.

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My money's on that white cop proclaiming the Zimmerman Defense - I was in fear for my life, so I blasted him into the next life. Even on his knees he was bigger and stronger than me, so when his body lurched forward (no doubt from his gun shot wounds), I considered it a threat to my well being and an aggressive act as if to attack my puny frail ass, and blew his brains out. I don't need no stinking back up, I GOT THE GUN! and the law on my side, my "brothers" will back me up.

Don't worry about covering the body boys, let him lay there as an example of what we'll do if anyone else gets out of line - UPPITY N*******

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Unlike you, I have no $ in this case. It is what it is, and also unlike you, I'm willing to wait until ALL the evidence is in before I decide.


Not all that surprising that you completely ignored the Jesse Jackson quote.

Doesn't fit in w/ your pre-packaged narrative, now does it ?

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-The reality of the situation is that there's a dead unarmed teen, shot apparently for NO GOOD REASON, until we hear the whole story...

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-Apparently, in this country, it's shoot 10 ten times quick, then ask questions once the dead person has had a chance to examine the bullets - up close and personal like

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

This is what happens when you give scum like Rappy a badge.
Period.

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Seems the Wilson / Brown interaction was agitated by something.

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Yes, it was:

Racism on the part of the cop,

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whenever a young black male comes into view to understand this is true.

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Seems the Wilson / Brown interaction was agitated by something.

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Yes, it was:

Racism on the part of the cop, and
Authoritarian policing,
Backed up by superiority of weapons

That's exactly what happened. Because every white American (police included) knows that young black males are possible criminals. All you have to do is check your personal reaction whenever a young black male comes into view to understand this is true.

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Hypocrite, you present a false image of virtue. You convicted the police officer without knowledge of the facts and in the same breath claim the rest of white America just as guilty. It is you who condemn unjustly and without due course. It is people like you that join the ranks of the guilty in sentencing society without a trial or prof of guilt. It is people like you that threw acid into the faces of the women you claim to champion.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Bottom line is that there is a young unarmed black male dead at the hands of a white cop;

My money's on that white cop proclaiming the Zimmerman Defense - I was in fear for my life, so I blasted him into the next life. Even on his knees he was bigger and stronger than me, so when his body lurched forward (no doubt from his gun shot wounds), I considered it a threat to my well being and an aggressive act as if to attack my puny frail ass, and blew his brains out. I don't need no stinking back up, I GOT THE GUN! and the law on my side, my "brothers" will back me up.

Don't worry about covering the body boys, let him lay there as an example of what we'll do if anyone else gets out of line - UPPITY N*******
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That's the statement of this shooting regardless the reason. Officer Wilson was speaking volumes with his actions, and he was speaking for all the nervous Nellie's out there that feel threatened by the fact that people of color will no longer be the minorities in the country. So they join the police forces across this country with the agenda to shoot to kill as many as you can. Don't worry about justification, we'll make shit up as we go along. The System will back us, because we still hold the positions of power in this country.

Do you know what that is called!?


Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose!


SGG

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Pure speculation , by you, at this point.

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That's exactly what happened. Because every white American (police included) knows that young black males are possible criminals. All you have to do is check your personal reaction whenever a young black male comes into view to understand this is true.

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You don't KNOW that, at all. That's only what you WANT to be true. Just like the Left WANTED Zimmerman to be a 'white' Hispanic, and a racist. It's why his 9-1-1 call was edited by NBC, to portray a false narrative.

My reaction ? EVERY White American ? What about White Hispanics ?

Hell, what about the reaction of Jesse Jackson ?

“There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—and then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” - Jesse Jackson.

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