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Turkey fails to assist Kurds in Syria, watches as Kobani burns
Saturday, October 11, 2014 11:58 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: for President Erdogan, the Islamic State is a lesser evil than President Assad and the Kurds. So he is even not sending his ground forces to battle the Islamic State. After all, his policies have contributed to the rise of Islamic State. He will not put his army against the Islamic State. That is the reason why Turkish tanks are just watching silently as IS terrorists continue to attack this town of Kobani from all sides.... In fact, President Erdogan is telling Washington that if the US wants the Turkish military to intervene in Syria, it has to be on the specific promise by Washington that regime change in Damascus is part of the larger American game plan. And the Americans at the moment are reluctant to give that promise, and that is the reason why President Erdogan is not pressing his forces into action, even in Kobani, which is the city under siege by the Islamic militants.
Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:17 PM
Saturday, October 11, 2014 4:15 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Death toll in Turkish anti-ISIS unrest reaches 31 At least 31 people have been killed and 360 wounded in four days of protests over the fate of the Kurdish town of Kobani assaulted by the Islamic State jihadists in Syria, according to the interior minister Efkan Ala. Among those killed, the minister confirmed the death of two policemen in the city of Bingol. Some 1,024 protesters were detained in protests that affected 35 Turkish provinces.
Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:44 PM
Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:04 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Monday, October 13, 2014 1:21 AM
Monday, October 13, 2014 5:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: What I heard ... and it was an interesting perspective... is that the USA has gotten itself in the middle of a civil war between Sunnis and Shias. That until/ unless the two sects sort themselves out, there will be constant warfare between the two of them.
Monday, October 13, 2014 10:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: What I heard ... and it was an interesting perspective
Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:41 AM
Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:24 PM
Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:18 AM
Wednesday, October 15, 2014 4:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: HAHAHAHAHA!!! Yes, it could be looked at that way! Turkey's military pounded KURDS! IN TURKEY! The name "Turkey" really is taking on a different connotation.
Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:21 PM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Saturday, November 28, 2015 10:56 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Sunday, November 29, 2015 8:15 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Meanwhile, Turkey has dusted off its military, and it STRUCK! Did it finally come to the aid of the Kurds in Kobani??? Well, not exactly. Turkey's military pounded KURDS! IN TURKEY! The name "Turkey" really is taking on a different connotation. So, WHY are they in NATO, exactly? It's a little hard to say! -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Monday, November 30, 2015 4:26 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: This article was sent to me and explains very nicely why Turkey is sitting on its hands even though ISIS is right at its doorstep. According to the analyst, Brahma Chellaney, Quote: for President Erdogan, the Islamic State is a lesser evil than President Assad and the Kurds. So he is even not sending his ground forces to battle the Islamic State. After all, his policies have contributed to the rise of Islamic State. He will not put his army against the Islamic State. That is the reason why Turkish tanks are just watching silently as IS terrorists continue to attack this town of Kobani from all sides.... In fact, President Erdogan is telling Washington that if the US wants the Turkish military to intervene in Syria, it has to be on the specific promise by Washington that regime change in Damascus is part of the larger American game plan. And the Americans at the moment are reluctant to give that promise, and that is the reason why President Erdogan is not pressing his forces into action, even in Kobani, which is the city under siege by the Islamic militants. http://www.panorama.am/en/politics/2014/10/10/islamic-state-turkey1/ This explains the violent Kurdish protests (read: riots) in Turkey. Until recently, Kurds had an active military and political separatist movement. Failure by President Erdogan to assist Kurds in northeastern Syria (right on Turkey's border) may re-ignite the Kurdish military aspect. It also is one more piece of evidence that Turkey has been an active partner in developing ISIS, because it has been busy funneling Saudi- and Qatari-funded arms to jihadists in Syria. That's in addition to leaked recordings of Turkey's top military command planning a false-flag operation from over the Syrian border in order to provide a "reason" for Turkey to attack Syria. http://www.globalresearch.ca/leaked-audio-recording-turkey-plans-false-flag-attacks-to-create-pretext-for-humanitarian-war-on-syria/5375824 So ISIS, like al Qaida, was created by Saudi Arabia. Unlike al Qaida, ISIS was also supplied by Qatar, with Turkey's assistance and the tacit (and sometimes active) approval of the USA, especially in the gun-running operations from Libya. Regime change in Syria seems to be on the Saudi's mind as well. There are persistent reports that the USA has had to promise something to Riyadh for the Saudi's (lackluster, limited) participation in the anti-ISIS coalition. Why Oil Is Plunging: The Other Part Of The "Secret Deal" Between The US And Saudi Arabia http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-10/why-oil-plunging-other-part-secret-deal-between-us-and-saudi-arabia -------------------- In effect, the USA and its coalition is fighting itself when its fighting ISIS. Because although the USA and its coalition would seem to be fighting ISIS, the reality is that ISIS is a useful tool for taking part of Iraq out from Iran's control, and for providing the USA and its partners a wedge into Syria to effect the final goal of removing Assad (allied with Iran and Russia) from power. For me, it's still an open question as to how vigorously the USA intends to pursue ISIS, because we have a history of fighting only SOME terrorists, but not others. This wouldn't be the first time that the USA used jihadists to attain some "greater" geopolitical goal. After all, didn't we use jihadists in Afghanistan and Libya to achieve success? And look how well it worked out for them! And for us!
Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Death toll in Turkish anti-ISIS unrest reaches 31 At least 31 people have been killed and 360 wounded in four days of protests over the fate of the Kurdish town of Kobani assaulted by the Islamic State jihadists in Syria, according to the interior minister Efkan Ala. Among those killed, the minister confirmed the death of two policemen in the city of Bingol. Some 1,024 protesters were detained in protests that affected 35 Turkish provinces. -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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