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The threat that Black Shirts represent is a latent one. While they're harmless on their own or in peacetime, they quickly organize into a formidable force in service of the Big Bad. Heroes are nominally obliged not to kill them, but even the Messianic Archetype would be hard pressed to make them turn to the side of good. What's more, they completely agree with the Evil Overlord's agenda, no matter how cruel, inhuman or insane — even if it means that they'll end up dying themselves by its conclusion (a fact they usually ignore).

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It was the kind of effort that
could probably only be made by people who were fighting with a
revolutionary intention--i.e. believed that they were fighting for
something better than the status quo. In the various centres of revolt
it is thought that three thousand people died in the streets in a single
day. Men and women armed only with sticks of dynamite rushed across the
open squares and stormed stone buildings held by trained soldiers with
machine-guns. Machine-gun nests that the Fascists had placed at
strategic spots were smashed by rushing taxis at them at sixty miles an
hour. Even if one had heard nothing of the seizure of the land by the
peasants, the setting up of local Soviets, etc., it would be hard to
believe that the Anarchists and Socialists who were the backbone of the
resistance were doing this kind of thing for the preservation of
capitalist democracy, which especially in the Anarchist view was no more
than a centralized swindling machine.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Great thread, Frem.

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WASHINGTON — In the decades after World War II, the C.I.A. and other United States agencies employed at least a thousand Nazis as Cold War spies and informants and, as recently as the 1990s, concealed the government’s ties to some still living in America, newly disclosed records and interviews show.

At the height of the Cold War in the 1950s, law enforcement and intelligence leaders like J. Edgar Hoover at the F.B.I. and Allen Dulles at the C.I.A. aggressively recruited onetime Nazis of all ranks as secret, anti-Soviet “assets,” declassified records show.

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In 1989, as the U.S. government prepared to strip him of his citizenship, Denzinger packed a pair of suitcases and fled to Germany. Denzinger later settled in this pleasant town on the Drava River, where he lives comfortably, courtesy of U.S. taxpayers. He collects a Social Security payment of about $1,500 each month, nearly twice the take-home pay of an average Croatian worker.

Denzinger, 90, is among dozens of suspected Nazi war criminals and SS guards who collected millions of dollars in Social Security payments after being forced out of the United States, an Associated Press investigation found.

The payments flowed through a legal loophole that has given the U.S. Justice Department leverage to persuade Nazi suspects to leave. If they agreed to go, or simply fled before deportation, they could keep their Social Security, according to interviews and internal government records.

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For mine own, the only factor of interest is keeping them from blowing our living space into a radioactive wasteland once they realize the jig is up, cause they'd be perfectly happy to blow the planet out from under us rather than not be in charge of it.

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Abbnd now that I think about it, the infiltration by Hydra, in light of the above, could be an allegory for just how badly Fascism has infiltrated our own intelligence and political systems, although in this case more of Mussolinis Italian brand of it given the Corp sponsored economics of the thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Italy_under_fascism

Socially it's more Straussian, and ole Leo was most certainly a jackboot licker of the very worst order - this isn't party based so much, given that the damn Neocons originated in the office of a Democrat (Henry "scoop" Jackson) and have no real loyalty save to their own agenda.

But yanno, just cause they don't CALL it Fascism, doesn't mean it ain't.
And as the above thread shows, Corporate America and it's fucking alphabet agencies loooooove that sort of thing, always have, always will.
So it's not too far afield to consider the modern Republican party an extension of the fourth reich, yanno, no matter what they CALL it.

In a more just world they'd be outlawed, purged, and hunted down to the very ends of the earth, stomped out of existence and mostly forgotten, but of course I worry about the collateral, sure.

Still, the possibility DOES remain, because people are not infinitely abuseable, and their continued squeezing and abuses are trying the patience of even the most noble souls in this world, who will one day turn their back and not say a word as the nightmare of that purge comes around, because all the alternatives are worse.

For mine own, the only factor of interest is keeping them from blowing our living space into a radioactive wasteland once they realize the jig is up, cause they'd be perfectly happy to blow the planet out from under us rather than not be in charge of it. -Frem

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