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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.

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Colossal disconnect. There's zero reason for there to be riots in Ferguson, but what Bill Cosby ( who is black ) says about other blacks in this nation is wholly valid.

( Silly intro to start, but he gets right into the point,soon after )

Blacks have already won many battles, and yet they fall backwards, and act as if every minor achievement they see today is some historic " first " . The Williams sisters ? Great story, but they're not the first blacks to break into the tennis world. Not by long shot. More homes broken up, fewer INDIVIDUALS making names for themselves, and more folks on welfare, more giving bogus excuses, wasting time on trivial matters. HE is saying that, not me, not 'whitey', because he's SEEN it.

Sometimes, the truth hurts, and it's easier to strike out at the messenger than to do something to make yourself better.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

Re you comments, Rap. Makes me sick, it really does. I hope you do not speak for the majority of Americans are a just an internet crazy, but if there are many more of your ilk, no wonder the riots.....

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I'm not sure what's most offensive, I still recoil at the term 'blacks', but maybe that's a cultural thing here. But also lumping so many people in the one basket, cause you know I'm sure that there is no one basket for African Americans who may be poor, middle class, wealthy, powerful, disenfranchised, successful, hardworking, lazy, drug addled, athletic, moral, immoral. A bit as weird as lumping 'whites' together.

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Originally posted by second:
"It is hard to believe that Bill Cosby is a serial rapist because the belief doesn't just indict Cosby, it indicts us. It damns us for drawing intimate conclusions about people based on pudding-pop commercials and popular TV shows. It destroys our ability to lean on icons for our morality. And it forces us back into a world where seemingly good men do unspeakably evil things, and this is just the chaos of human history." -- http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/11/the-cosby-sho
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I had to look up Stephen Collins. Dad from 7th Heaven. Just damn. Played a preacher, didn't he ? I never saw the show.

I have no idea if Bill Cosby did or didn't do it. Being promiscuous doesn't make one a rapist. Being famous, even to a small degree, can get people more ...um, attention from the opposite sex. Or the same sex. Which ever.

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TMZ broke the story ... the NYPD was investigating at least 3 cases of alleged molestation or indecent exposure, but all 3 cases are so old authorities believe the statute of limitations have run.

But sources tell TMZ ... 2 NYPD detectives flew from New York to Seattle to interview the woman whom Collins admits on tape to molesting when she was 10.

Cops were not interested in probing the woman's story any further, but they were intensely interested in finding out if other, more recent alleged victims might have come forward.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/11/17/stephen-collins-victims-nypd-investigati
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Originally posted by whozit:

Who'd have thought Stephen Collins molested little girls, until he admitted it.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Is is racist to heap all these accusations on a black guy? And a pioneer of black folks, as well.

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Whoopi Goldberg DEFENDS Bill Cosby over new rape claims as she expresses skepticism over allegations and asks: 'Why didn't accuser get a rape kit?'

Whoopi Goldberg wondered on 'The View' why Cosby accuser Barbara Bowman never went to the police

Ms Bowman told MailOnline that she didn't even tell her own mother about the assault for years

She came forward in 2005 following a lawsuit brought by another rape accuser

By MICHAEL ZENNIE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:52 EST, 17 November 2014 | UPDATED: 15:04 EST, 18 November 2014


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838255/Whoopi-Goldberg-sides-
Bill-Cosby-expresses-skepticism-sexual-assault-claims-didn-t-accuser-rape-kit.html#ixzz3JdkKGMgZ

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Why ? And what do riots ever achieve ? Destruction of private property, usually by idiots from OUTSIDE of a community, who then leave, while those who remain are forced to pick up the pieces.

Reginald Denny. Ring a bell ? Look it up, if you need to. Completely innocent victim of that bullshit' social justice ' crap that the black agitators ( they're not leaders ) try and stir up.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

so you're okay with the term black American?

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Whoopi Goldberg DEFENDS Bill Cosby over new rape claims as she expresses skepticism over allegations and asks: 'Why didn't accuser get a rape kit?'

Whoopi Goldberg wondered on 'The View' why Cosby accuser Barbara Bowman never went to the police

Ms Bowman told MailOnline that she didn't even tell her own mother about the assault for years

She came forward in 2005 following a lawsuit brought by another rape accuser

By MICHAEL ZENNIE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:52 EST, 17 November 2014 | UPDATED: 15:04 EST, 18 November 2014


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838255/Whoopi-Goldberg-sides-
Bill-Cosby-expresses-skepticism-sexual-assault-claims-didn-t-accuser-rape-kit.html#ixzz3JdkKGMgZ

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I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.

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Whoopi Goldberg DEFENDS Bill Cosby over new rape claims as she expresses skepticism over allegations and asks: 'Why didn't accuser get a rape kit?'

Whoopi Goldberg wondered on 'The View' why Cosby accuser Barbara Bowman never went to the police

Ms Bowman told MailOnline that she didn't even tell her own mother about the assault for years

She came forward in 2005 following a lawsuit brought by another rape accuser

By MICHAEL ZENNIE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:52 EST, 17 November 2014 | UPDATED: 15:04 EST, 18 November 2014


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838255/Whoopi-Goldberg-sides-
Bill-Cosby-expresses-skepticism-sexual-assault-claims-didn-t-accuser-rape-kit.html#ixzz3JdkKGMgZ

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I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Just don't use the hyphen, yeah.

That was a joke, fyi.

Yeah, I guess "most" Americans would prefer to say 'African-American', which is the current in a long list of 'preferred ' names. I'd rather just say 'Americans', and leave it at that, but blacks don't care for merely being seen as American. It's as much a political and cultural as it is racial. Probably more the former two now.

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I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.

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Originally posted by whozit:

Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.

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I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.

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Yes, rethink. Even ponder for a spell. It's vital to have a carefully considered position on the important Bill Cosby matter.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I always think it's a good thing to bring people down a peg.

Am I going to ignore that he was possibly a serial rapist just because he was funny? Nope.

Am I going to pretend all of these women were loose and had it coming because they were really naïve and took pills way too readily?
Sorry, just don't buy that.

"Constand's lawyers produced 11 more women who claimed Cosby had assaulted them, bringing the total number of accusers to 13. The suit was eventually settled, and, as part of that agreement, the plaintiff agreed not to discuss her allegations publicly."

This was from an article I read this morning,(somewhere called "The Vox") and as of today we're up to 16 women. That's a whole lotta accusations, and I don't think it does anyone (besides the accused) any good to ignore them. Plus, it goes back to my argument that there are a lot more rapes and rapists in this country than people think. Some number estimate up to a million a year. Women need to know. They need to stop being so naïve and trusting and get a clue. So yeah, I'm glad this is coming out now.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Yep. I do.


I read that Janice Dickenson has come out with it now, certainly might explain a bit of her behaviors. Someone suggested in the comment section that maybe that's why Lisa Bonet left the show too. He certainly sounds pervy enough to make me wanna leave.

It's sad, the guy was damn funny. But since I think most people are pure crap, not really tooo surprising. And it's funny now, the whole "black people need to hold themselves to a higher standard" comment from a couple years ago. Really damn ironic. Wonder if he felt like a hypocrite saying that, at all???

Also, does anyone know when rape kits became widely used? I thought it was early 90's, but not sure. All I know is these women are getting blamed for not going to get a rape kit done in the 70's and 80's which I don't think they had those then?? I know some of the more progressive departments did even in the fifties, but I thought that was rare?

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Also, does anyone know when rape kits became widely used? I thought it was early 90's, but not sure. All I know is these women are getting blamed for not going to get a rape kit done in the 70's and 80's which I don't think they had those then?? I know some of the more progressive departments did even in the fifties, but I thought that was rare?

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Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.

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I don't care what she says on that stupid show. I loved her on Star Trek, in "Ghost", and a bunch of other movies. She earned a lifetime pass from me a long time ago. Actors and actresses should stick to acting, but if they do open their mouths and say dumb things in the real world it rarely bothers me.

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SGG - how many would balk if a network reporter asked open ended questions about the sins done over a lifetime ? Maybe something done in your teens , twenties or what ever

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And an FYI, I know for a fact that rape kits were being used by at least the mid-70s, as my sister, who was a stat lab tech for a county hospital, was processing them at the time, and they were already in common use by then.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Jongs ,it's the classic Catch 22.

If I believe Cosby, then I'm perpetuating the war on women, and promoting the 'rape culture'.

If I believe the women, then I'm a racist, and perpetuating that all black males are lookin' just to hump any female they can get their hands on.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Jongs ,it's the classic Catch 22.

If I believe Cosby, then I'm perpetuating the war on women, and promoting the 'rape culture'.

If I believe the women, then I'm a racist, and perpetuating that all black males are lookin' just to hump any female they can get their hands on.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:

.. and there ARE a lot of black men who look to hump any female they can get their hands on.

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Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.

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I don't care what she says on that stupid show. I loved her on Star Trek, in "Ghost", and a bunch of other movies. She earned a lifetime pass from me a long time ago. Actors and actresses should stick to acting, but if they do open their mouths and say dumb things in the real world it rarely bothers me.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

NEWS FLASH .... men of EVERY race, color, size, and shape are looking to hump women. Black men don't have a monopoly on being horny.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
You mean Bill Cosby, the black who made money pandering to racists by scolding other blacks on how awful they were? You mean blacks too can be hypocrites if there's money to be made?

Say it isn't so!

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