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Rep. Mo Brooks and Backpedaling

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Friday, November 21, 2014 11:55 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Talk about irresponsible and just plain stupid, let's see Alabama Congressman Mo Brooks really takes the prize.

"Republican Representative Mo Brooks of Alabama thinks they can send President Obama to prison for 5 years for doing what every other modern president has done by taking executive action on immigration reform."

But then does a serious backpedal when confronted as to which law was violated by the President.

"Brooks said there is a federal statute (“I don’t have the citation for it at the tip of my tongue”) making it a felony to aid, abet, or entice a foreigner to illegally enter the U.S.
“At some point, you have to evaluate whether the president’s conduct aids or abets, encourages, or entices foreigners to unlawfully cross into the United States of America,” he continued. “That has a five-year in-jail penalty associated with it.”
Brooks isn’t sure on what grounds impeachment proceedings might be justified because he hasn’t seen the outlines of the president’s actions yet.
…
“I don’t know what he’s going to do yet,” he continued. “Until we see what he’s going to do, it is difficult to say whether he is violating a civil statute or violating a criminal statute.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/11/20/republican-mo-brooks-thinks-sen
d-obama-prison-years.html

Well, no wonder he made the stupid statement. He had it on the tip of his tongue, so that makes it alright. Could you imagine going to the White House and saying "You're under arrest, you son of a bitch, just can't think of the law you violated right now, but you're going to jail."

That sounds about right. He's black, he must have been doing something illegal.

Fucking idiot!


SGG

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Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:28 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


It's a lie to compare what Obama did to every other prez has done. It's flat out absurd.

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Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:06 AM

WHOZIT


You libs wanted to send Nixon to jail for a cover up.

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Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:23 AM

JONGSSTRAW


More than once Obama has said "Elections have consequences." Apparently that only means bad news for Republicans whether they win or they lose.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:03 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Okay, just because you say so.


SGG


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's a lie to compare what Obama did to every other prez has done. It's flat out absurd.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:08 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Watergate was a president committing a crime to be re-elected, ordering a robbery and then covering it up so not to get caught. I guess white collar crime doesn't count.

And who was it that said that Obama should go to jail. Come on, you guys could do better than that.


SGG


Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
You libs wanted to send Nixon to jail for a cover up.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:13 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Boo Hoo, we won fair and square! Are you kidding me with this!?

Brooks said what he said, and is now backpedaling all the way to China. The GOP won both houses and the president did everything possible to work with them, despite relentless obstruction, and now you're crying because you won!?

What is wrong with this picture?


SGG


Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
More than once Obama has said "Elections have consequences." Apparently that only means bad news for Republicans whether they win or they lose.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:44 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Watergate was a president committing a crime to be re-elected, ordering a robbery and then covering it up so not to get caught. I guess white collar crime doesn't count.

And who was it that said that Obama should go to jail. Come one, you guys could do better than that.


SGG


Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
You libs wanted to send Nixon to jail for a cover up.


Nixon didn't order the break in, BUT when he found out what happened he should have fed Dean, Liddy, Hunt and the others to the wolves, not try to help them. If he had done that "Watergate" would've been a footnote in history and Nixon would have finished his 2nd term. Barry has lied about Bengazi, Obamacare, and now is trying to make 5 million landscapers legal. All Nixon did was try to cover for a bunch of assholes he should have ran away from.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:46 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Nixon didn't order the break in, BUT when he found out what happened he should have fed Dean, Liddy, Hunt and the others to the wolves, not try to help them. If he had done that "Watergate" would've been a footnote in history and Nixon would have finished his 2nd term.

No, what Nixon should have done early on was fire his honest truth-seeking Republican Attorney General Elliot Richardson, and replace him with the most dishonest, corrupt, loyal-to-the-boss ideological stooge he could find and make him Attorney General ... just like Obama has with Holder.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You don't need an AG to appoint a special prosecutor.

A special prosecutor generally is a lawyer from outside the government appointed by an attorney general or, in the United States, by Congress to investigate a government official for misconduct ...

In August 1994 pursuant to the newly reauthorized Ethics in Government Act (28 U.S.C. § 593(b)), Starr was appointed by a special three-judge division of the D.C. Circuit to continue the Whitewater investigation ...


Don't you ever get tired of being such a fool?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:46 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Ken Starr replaced Robert B. Fiske, a moderate Republican who had been appointed by Attorney General Janet Reno.

Don't you ever get tired of being such a fool? Or an obnoxious idiot twat?

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


AHEM!

A special prosecutor generally is a lawyer from outside the government appointed by an attorney general or, in the United States, by Congress to investigate a government official for misconduct ...

In August 1994 pursuant to the newly reauthorized Ethics in Government Act (28 U.S.C. § 593(b)), Starr was appointed by a special three-judge division of the D.C. Circuit to continue the Whitewater investigation ...

"... a three-judge panel replaced special counsel Robert B. Fiske Jr. with Kenneth W. Starr ..."

"When the independent counsel statute was reauthorized on June 30, 1994, however, the Special Court removed Fiske and appointed Starr."


Don't you ever get tired of being such a fool?


SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:16 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Ken Starr replaced Robert B. Fiske, a moderate Republican who had been appointed by Attorney General Janet Reno.

Don't you ever get tired of being such a fool? Or an obnoxious idiot twat?

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The ability of the AG to appoint an IC was removed when Clinton reauthorized the OIC law. The AG appointed Fiske. When the AG's authority to appoint him was rescinded, he was removed and replaced by Starr, which was done by a 3-panel court that appointed the new SP. Which is why I quoted the part about the OIC law being reauthorized.

The AG had NOTHING to do with Starr.

You really need to learn how to use google.

And, don't you get tired of being such a fool?


SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:31 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Not only are you bat shit crazy, you're also a hopeless idiot.


Eric Holder Declines Ted Cruz’s Request For Special Prosecutor In IRS Case

"U.S. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. has declined to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of advocacy groups for extra scrutiny based on their policy positions.

Attorney General Eric H. Holder announced the decision in a letter last week to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), saying that “such an appointment is not warranted” because the case does not present a conflict of interest. Cruz had requested an independent investigation in January.

The attorney general said in his response to the senator that “career prosecutors and law-enforcement professionals” were conducting the Justice Department probe. “The Department remains committed to integrity and fairness in all of its law-enforcement efforts, without regard to politics,” Holder said.

Cruz criticized the decision on Thursday, saying in a statement that Holder “has chosen to reject the bipartisan tradition of the Department of Justice of putting rule of law above political allegiance.” He cited past examples in which attorneys general appointed special prosecutors to investigate Watergate under President Richard Nixon and the Monica Lewinsky scandal under President Bill Clinton.

In his January request, Cruz said an independent investigation was necessary because the Justice Department had not indicted anyone for the IRS behavior and because one of the prosecutors helping to lead the DOJ probe had donated heavily to President Obama and the Democratic party."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2014/03/20/eric-hol
der-declines-ted-cruzs-request-for-special-prosecutor-in-irs-case/


This clearly proves my initial point; that a corrupt Attorney General can obstruct justice by not appointing a special prosecutor.


I'm done with your sorry troll ass. Fuck off.

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Monday, November 24, 2014 1:06 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


AHEM!

A special prosecutor generally is a lawyer from outside the government appointed by an attorney general or, in the United States, by Congress to investigate a government official for misconduct ...


SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Monday, November 24, 2014 4:19 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


It's funny how people like to rewrite history.


SGG


Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Nixon didn't order the break in, BUT when he found out what happened he should have fed Dean, Liddy, Hunt and the others to the wolves, not try to help them. If he had done that "Watergate" would've been a footnote in history and Nixon would have finished his 2nd term.

No, what Nixon should have done early on was fire his honest truth-seeking Republican Attorney General Elliot Richardson, and replace him with the most dishonest, corrupt, loyal-to-the-boss ideological stooge he could find and make him Attorney General ... just like Obama has with Holder.

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Monday, November 24, 2014 6:30 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I agree with you, sort of, that the AG can appear to be biased in his choosing a special prosecutor. So, Holder refused to assign one (1) and have the DOJ investigate, as by virtue of the Constitution.
Imagine for a moment, as you already have, that Holder is corrupt and chooses a crony (the GOP is familiar with cronyism) and he decides in favor of the administration and the IRS. You guys, and the GOP, would have a kaniption fit. The seas would boil and the sky would fall.

But here, in this case, Holder says no I'm not appointing a Special Prosecutor cause he knows it's a trap. Cruz may think he's a Jedi, but Holder was 2 steps ahead of him (The Jedi mind trick only works on the weak-minded). So, what's a right wing nut job to do? Well, if he's a Congressman, he could ask his fellow Congress members to caucus (which Cruz is well aware of) and ask to have the appropriate committee investigate (such as in the Benghazi case) (2).

(1) If the attorney general suspects criminal wrongdoing within the federal government, he or she can assign a special counsel to lead the investigation. The appointment does not need congressional approval, just notification to the chairman and ranking member of the House and Senate Judiciary committees. The special counsel can be dismissed by the attorney general in extraordinary circumstances, however.

(2) Because this is an executive-branch function, Congress cannot appoint a special counsel. Instead, Congress can hold its own investigation through different committees.

Cruz very well knows the game he's playing. Wasn't one of your heroes, Issa, conducting a Congressional investigation of the IRS. Isn't that better than having Holder pick a Special Prosecutor?


SGG


Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Not only are you bat shit crazy, you're also a hopeless idiot.


Eric Holder Declines Ted Cruz’s Request For Special Prosecutor In IRS Case

"U.S. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. has declined to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of advocacy groups for extra scrutiny based on their policy positions.

Attorney General Eric H. Holder announced the decision in a letter last week to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), saying that “such an appointment is not warranted” because the case does not present a conflict of interest. Cruz had requested an independent investigation in January.

The attorney general said in his response to the senator that “career prosecutors and law-enforcement professionals” were conducting the Justice Department probe. “The Department remains committed to integrity and fairness in all of its law-enforcement efforts, without regard to politics,” Holder said.

Cruz criticized the decision on Thursday, saying in a statement that Holder “has chosen to reject the bipartisan tradition of the Department of Justice of putting rule of law above political allegiance.” He cited past examples in which attorneys general appointed special prosecutors to investigate Watergate under President Richard Nixon and the Monica Lewinsky scandal under President Bill Clinton.

In his January request, Cruz said an independent investigation was necessary because the Justice Department had not indicted anyone for the IRS behavior and because one of the prosecutors helping to lead the DOJ probe had donated heavily to President Obama and the Democratic party."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2014/03/20/eric-hol
der-declines-ted-cruzs-request-for-special-prosecutor-in-irs-case/


This clearly proves my initial point; that a corrupt Attorney General can obstruct justice by not appointing a special prosecutor.


I'm done with your sorry troll ass. Fuck off.

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