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I wonder what would happen if Muslims had a humor mag that showed similar depictions of Christ, what Christians might do?

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I keep thinking France has started WWIII, we just don't know it yet...
Another attack today in a post office.

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Are you asking because you want to want to know my thought processes or because you're playing devil's advocate?

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2 things w/ this... your thought process on repeating yourself " want to want to ...", and the other thing.

I point this out, because not only have I caught my own self doing the exact same thing, but I notice others do it too, from time to time.

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Fine, I'll play...

If there is a person (and I'll call him Mr. Widget) that I know to have a history of violence and is also known to be mentally ill, and I decide to walk up to him and insult his mama and his guardian angel and Mr. Widget decides he's going to attack me while I sleep(AND I leave my door unlocked)- who is the bigger idiot?

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Yep. A valid point.
The violent mentally ill man or the person insulting the violent, mentally ill man??

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You can stand there and protest "But...you shouldn't attack me because it's not ethical!!" but you are effectively provoking the fight because you REALLY should have known better (because being in the publication business unless they were FREAKING BLIND AND DEAF you know Muslims get violent about insulting their imaginary guardian angel) and then claiming martyrdom when Mr. Widget performs as expected....

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All that is true, but you can't tell me that every single individual who saws heads off of innocent people, who murders family members in the name of 'honor ', or blows up 10 yr old little girls, ALL of them are 'kooky' in the head. I mean, really ?

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The court of history SHOULD put the blame squarely on the French publication.

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If they are guilty , then fine. But 12 shot dead, execution style, is NOT the proper sentence. No more than a man being tossed off the top of a building for the crime of being ' gay '. Are you going to blame HIM too ?

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Is it RIGHT and FAIR? No. Sometimes LIFE ain't fair and sometimes for a society to grow there must be blood shed. And I have a feeling there will be oceans of blood coming soon.

Why? Because you just can't stop some people from poking a bear.

"But I had a stick and I could!"


Humans.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
" I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it "

It's not about liking or approving of the cartoons in Charlie Hebdo. We allow Huslter to stay in business, even though most ( all ? ) here would find its content despicable.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
" I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it "

It's not about liking or approving of the cartoons in Charlie Hebdo. We allow Huslter to stay in business, even though most ( all ? ) here would find its content despicable.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
" I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it "

It's not about liking or approving of the cartoons in Charlie Hebdo. We allow Huslter to stay in business, even though most ( all ? ) here would find its content despicable.

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THIS isn't about free speech, it's about a bunch of assholes teasing an angry bear. They knew they were mocking the God of a bunch of loonatics, I bet they're going to tone it down now. And FYI, two police officers died trying to defend their right to be assholes.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

So why don't TEA party members (...) to firebomb MSNBC ?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
" I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it "

It's not about liking or approving of the cartoons in Charlie Hebdo. We allow Hustler to stay in business, even though most ( all ? ) here would find its content despicable.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
" I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it "

It's not about liking or approving of the cartoons in Charlie Hebdo. We allow Hustler to stay in business, even though most ( all ? ) here would find its content despicable.

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Hustler magazine wrote a parody about religious leader Jerry Falwell. Falwell is not in the same stratus as the Prophet Mohammed, but Hustler's publisher, Larry Flynt, was shot because his magazine was offensive to Christians. Should we buy a copy of Hustler on every anniversary of the shooting to keep the memory alive of Larry's brave sacrifice for freedom? Maybe not. Remember Charlie Hebdo! Remember Hustler!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
" I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it "

It's not about liking or approving of the cartoons in Charlie Hebdo. We allow Huslter to stay in business, even though most ( all ? ) here would find its content despicable.

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THIS isn't about free speech, it's about a bunch of assholes teasing an angry bear. They knew they were mocking the God of a bunch of loonatics, I bet they're going to tone it down now. And FYI, two police officers died trying to defend their right to be assholes.

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So why don't TEA party members try to firebomb MSNBC ?

It's entirely about free speech. don't be fooled.

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Right on time... even your responses to a post about Russian Trolls is in keeping with how the trolls operate - only 8 minutes ago even:
I'm sure you already know this, but just to make sure: congrats! You are part of the Russian Troll army.

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...the front line of leaders was followed by just over a dozen rows other dignitaries and officials – after which there was a large security presence maintaining a significant gap with the throngs of other marchers

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Larry's still alive, so his sacrifice is still on display. If you want to buy a copy of Hustler, then I'm sure Larry and his fine organization would appreciate it. All the way ot the bank.

I'll not buy Hustler or Charlie Hebdo, but feel free to do so yourself.

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second - killing those who murder innocents isn't " the circle of life " . I think you need to go watch The Lion King again.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Sig - you honestly believe this is some sort of secret, or conspiracy ?
That the leaders of the free world, and some parts not so free, would wander about the open streets a week after over a dozen citizens were shot and killed ?

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There's no THERE there with this photo, in the least. So what if they were in a secure, cordoned off section of the streets of Paris ?
Point is , they were there.
It's not much different than the top runners in the world being placed in their own group, in front of the 1000's of other runners.
It would be dirt stupid to have done it any other way.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Sig - you honestly believe this is some sort of secret, or conspiracy ?
That the leaders of the free world, and some parts not so free, would wander about the open streets a week after over a dozen citizens were shot and killed ?

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There's no THERE there with this photo, in the least. So what if they were in a secure, cordoned off section of the streets of Paris ?
Point is , they were there.
It's not much different than the top runners in the world being placed in their own group, in front of the 1000's of other runners.
It would be dirt stupid to have done it any other way.

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Well, there is some disagreement as to whether the world leaders were even on the same route as the marchers, or in a cordoned-off side-street.

But, yes, I definitely agree it would be dirt stupid to do it any other way, but then why publish a clearly misleading photo in every outlet of western press, unless you're intending to mislead? This isn't an example of bad intent on the part of the western leaders as much as an example of the western press' commitment to whip up feeling. 'Cause publishing the reality would be such a buzzkill. (It usually is.)
Plus, it was funny.

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second - killing those who murder innocents isn't " the circle of life " . I think you need to go watch The Lion King again.

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The murderers lived like beasts and they died like beasts.

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French TV has exposed the reality of the 'photo-op' seen-around-the-world: the 'dignitaries' were not in fact "at" the Paris rallies but had the photo taken on an empty guarded side street...

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[The Independent ...] shows that the front line of leaders was followed by just over a dozen rows other dignitaries and officials – after which there was a large security presence maintaining a significant gap with the throngs of other marchers.

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FT’s Middle East correspondent Borzou Daragahi commented: “Seems world leaders didn’t “lead” Charlie Hebdo marchers in Paris but conducted photo op on empty, guarded street.”

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They were there.

And to quote your gal Hillary... " What difference, at this point, does it make ? "

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So, he [sic] point is... You're paranoid ?

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Right on time... even your responses to a post about Russian Trolls is in keeping with how the trolls operate - only 8 minutes ago even:
I'm sure you already know this, but just to make sure: congrats! You are part of the Russian Troll army.- GSTRING

HUH?

To tell you the truth, I haven't been following this thread lately, but son, you just posted sheer flamebait. After a day of reflection and cooling off can't you see your post went to the whacko-darkside? If not, I think you need to go into isolation or something, because your brain is fevered and your judgment is lacking.
BTW, I don't see anything trollish in demanding evidence. Only liars, propagandists, dupes, and trolls would have a problem being asked for it.
And YOU'RE not any of that.
Are you?
- SIGNY

WHAT?
Fake astonishment aside, you and Kiki obviously don't care about facts

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If she really did she could easily find them, there are loads of articles with more detail about the Russian Social Media Troll Armies. But neither of you care, so you will do what I said Trolls will do, and what is pretty obvious troll behavior: deny, deflect, ask for cites. Hey, we all want stuff! Kiki says she wants more info ("it would be nice if...").

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Me, I want a free western press so the western people aren't continually being lied to.

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Speaking of facts: It is a FACT that you and Kiki use some of the same phrases and make many of the same deflections at the same time as they have been introduced by SMTA

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Sorry child, but it's very obvious.

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As far as: "Only liars, propagandists, dupes, and trolls would have a problem being asked for it." -SIGNY
Are you describing the Russian News Media? Russian Government?

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