REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

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Friday, May 8, 2015 4:56 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, 'cause NOBODY thinks of lynching as a great southern tradition of mob justice, ending in the hanging of nigrahs from the nearest tree. NOBODY thinks of the song "Strange Fruit".


'Cause all of those photos that KIKI found were just abberations from the REAL definition, possibly originated by Charles Lynch, whose portraiture and name are forever and indelibly linked with the word itself. [/sarcasm]

First of all, RAPPY, you took a POSSIBLE WORD ORIGIN, and mixed it up with the current definition. It's a common dodge, when a word means something that you don't want it to mean, but the reality is that many words change their meaning over a couple hundred years, and in current lingo no longer mean what they meant "back then". During the times of the American South, "lynching" meant hanging - whether for blacks or whites. Most commonly, blacks.

Furthermore, even the origin (which you cite) is a weak one. Notice the word obscure, and the fact that two people (not one) are listed as the possible/ likely originators.

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The origins of the word lynch are obscure, but likely originates during the American revolution. The term originates from the phrase "Lynch Law", a term for a punishment without trial. Two Americans during this era are generally credited for the phrase: Charles Lynch and William Lynch, who both lived in Virginia in the 1780s. Charles Lynch has the better claim, as he was known to have used the term in 1782, while William Lynch isn't known to have used the term until much later. There is no evidence that death was imposed as a punishment by either of the two men.


Nice try, but no joy. The word means what it means.


I suppose you probably also think that niggardly is a racist term, right?
And "thug" is a black criminal?
Illiterate much?

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Friday, May 8, 2015 5:54 PM

AURAPTOR

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Sig - a lynch mob refers to any mob action where a group takes the law into their own hands.

But as we saw in TRASH, how with Chinese, there are difference nuances with the same word, depending on context, the meaning can and does vary. Sure, in one light, it CAN be used to describe events as you describe, but it's not limited to ONLY that definition.

You WANT it to means specifically one thing and one thing only because it helps you project your narrative.

I get that. I really do.


When the Left can't win a debate, they change the rules. They'll change the definition of words, and then declare themselves the winner.

It's a sad, sad M.O. which has been tried, over and over.

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Friday, May 8, 2015 9:49 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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I suppose you probably also think that niggardly is a racist term, right?
And "thug" is a black criminal?
Illiterate much??


HAHAHAHA!!

No, on both counts.

I noticed that you PRESUMED I misunderstood those words, and so you presumed I was "illiterate". Turns out, you're wrong.

So, I'm not illiterate but, you OTOH... Strawmanning much? (And I don't have to "presume" that you did because you offered a fine example, right here.

Sheesh.



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Friday, May 8, 2015 9:57 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


There is a difference between the word "lynch", which is a VERB ... a word which describes an action

I lynch
You lynch
He, she, it lynches


And a PHRASE, which is "lynch mob".

Just because "lynch mob" has a slightly broader meaning than "lynch" doesn't mean that "lynch mob" transfers its meaning to the word "lynch".

Lynch, the verb, has only ONE MEANING.

If you can find a dictionary somewhere which gives the verb "lynch" a different current meaning, feel free to post it. In fact, I encourage you to!


ETA: Yanno, rappy, I find it kind of sweet that you would actually use an argument that I use here rather frequently, and that argument is "Define your terms". I use it because MOST people have not -- defined their terms, I mean. So when they talk about "freedom" or "god" or "justice" or "rights" or "human life" or any number of emotional topics, I find people getting all worked up over concepts which they feel deeply but can't actually -- yanno-- explain. Clearly, they have deep affiliation with something they don't understand. That response is usually the hallmark of childhood training or propaganda.

YOUR problem is, you picked one of the few definitions to discuss in which the meaning is extremely pellucidly clear. May I suggest that BEFORE you hang your argument on a definition, that you look at a dictionary first?


And indeed, until you manage to demonstrate that the word "lynch" has ANY OTHER meaning that that determined by the major dictionaries, I call this particular discussion closed, and encourage discussion of more relevant topics.

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Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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I suppose you probably also think that niggardly is a racist term, right?
And "thug" is a black criminal?
Illiterate much??


HAHAHAHA!!

No, on both counts.

I noticed that you PRESUMED I misunderstood those words, and so you presumed I was "illiterate". Turns out, you're wrong.


Again, you have failed to recognize your own devices.
Libtard illiterate D.C Councilwomen have redefined the word niggardly as an offensive racist slur, and the Libtard masses (Democrats) have supported the move. (they fired the Budget specialist who used the term)
President Bobo has explained the word "thug" is now exclusively applied to blacks, and is now a racist slur.

Apparently you HAVE misunderstood these words, because they have been redefined by your lords and masters, and no longer reflect their true meaning - which is the argument you are attempting to apply. Only those of us in the real world continue to use the actual meanings of these words, which you oppose.

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Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:26 PM

AURAPTOR

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JSF - the D.C councilwoman's idiocy reminded me of...

Dallas County officials spar over ‘black hole’ comment


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A special meeting about Dallas County traffic tickets turned tense and bizarre this afternoon.

County commissioners were discussing problems with the central collections office that is used to process traffic ticket payments and handle other paperwork normally done by the JP Courts.

Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who is white, said it seemed that central collections “has become a black hole” because paperwork reportedly has become lost in the office.

Commissioner John Wiley Price, who is black, interrupted him with a loud “Excuse me!” He then corrected his colleague, saying the office has become a “white hole.”

That prompted Judge Thomas Jones, who is black, to demand an apology from Mayfield for his racially insensitive analogy.

Mayfield shot back that it was a figure of speech and a science term. A black hole, according to Webster’s, is perhaps “the invisible remains of a collapsed star, with an intense gravitational field from which neither light nor matter can escape.”

Other county officials quickly interceded to break it up and get the meeting back on track. TV news cameras were rolling, after all.

http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/2008/07/dallas-county-meeting-turns
-ra.html
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Again, you have failed to recognize your own devices.

Libtard illiterate D.C Councilwomen have redefined the word niggardly as an offensive racist slur, and the Libtard masses (Democrats) have supported the move. (they fired the Budget specialist who used the term)



Well, it seems , according to Sniggy and 1kiki, that the meaning of the word has evolved, so we can no longer consider the ORIGINAL definition.

:crazy:

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President Bobo has explained the word "thug" is now exclusively applied to blacks, and is now a racist slur



Wait, even after he himself used that word ?

And I could have sworn Joss used that word in Age of Ultron, to refer to a WHITE criminal. Albeit, he was in Africa...


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Saturday, May 9, 2015 4:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
JSF - the D.C councilwoman's idiocy reminded me of...

Dallas County officials spar over ‘black hole’ comment
Quote:

A special meeting about Dallas County traffic tickets turned tense and bizarre this afternoon.

County commissioners were discussing problems with the central collections office that is used to process traffic ticket payments and handle other paperwork normally done by the JP Courts.

Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who is white, said it seemed that central collections “has become a black hole” because paperwork reportedly has become lost in the office.

Commissioner John Wiley Price, who is black, interrupted him with a loud “Excuse me!” He then corrected his colleague, saying the office has become a “white hole.”

That prompted Judge Thomas Jones, who is black, to demand an apology from Mayfield for his racially insensitive analogy.

Mayfield shot back that it was a figure of speech and a science term. A black hole, according to Webster’s, is perhaps “the invisible remains of a collapsed star, with an intense gravitational field from which neither light nor matter can escape.”

Other county officials quickly interceded to break it up and get the meeting back on track. TV news cameras were rolling, after all.

http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/2008/07/dallas-county-meeting-turns
-ra.html
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Again, you have failed to recognize your own devices.

Libtard illiterate D.C Councilwomen have redefined the word niggardly as an offensive racist slur, and the Libtard masses (Democrats) have supported the move. (they fired the Budget specialist who used the term)


Well, it seems , according to Sniggy and 1kiki, that the meaning of the word has evolved, so we can no longer consider the ORIGINAL definition.

:crazy:
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President Bobo has explained the word "thug" is now exclusively applied to blacks, and is now a racist slur


Wait, even after he himself used that word ?

And I could have sworn Joss used that word in Age of Ultron, to refer to a WHITE criminal. Albeit, he was in Africa...


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


Yes, more of the same. Can we blame it on that racist John Wheeler from 1964? But in 1964 black was not a racial term!!!

Shall I assume your thug reference was sarcasm?

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Saturday, May 9, 2015 10:26 PM

AURAPTOR

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Did you see Age of Ultron ? Pretty sure it was there that I heard the 'thug' reference.


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Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:00 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Again
Again? When was the first time?

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you have failed to recognize your own
Mine?
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devices
What?

First of all, what is a "device"? Makes no sense in the context as you used it.

Secondly... you claim these "devices" (whatever they are) are mine. Is that because you presume that anyone who isn't a rightwing idiot must be a liberal?

Thirdly, you seem to think this has happened previously. Well I don't remember it happening at all. If fact, I'm not sure what "it" is. So please explain. if you can.

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Monday, May 11, 2015 6:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Did you see Age of Ultron ? Pretty sure it was there that I heard the 'thug' reference.


Originally from the Thuggee religious tribe of nomadic assassins. Their members were Thugs, supposedly eradicated before 1900. Being Indian, or roaming India, they were unlikely white.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2015 6:38 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Did you see Age of Ultron ? Pretty sure it was there that I heard the 'thug' reference.


I think I meant your ref of convoluted Bobo using the word.

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Friday, May 15, 2015 4:58 PM

AURAPTOR

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Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

As well he should. I defy anyone who tries to tell me that this piece of go-se deserves to live. He's an unrepentant mass murdering Muslim psycho.


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Friday, May 15, 2015 5:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, 'cause NOBODY thinks of lynching as a great southern tradition of mob justice, ending in the hanging of nigrahs from the nearest tree. NOBODY thinks of the song "Strange Fruit".


'Cause all of those photos that KIKI found were just abberations from the REAL definition, possibly originated by Charles Lynch, whose portraiture and name are forever and indelibly linked with the word itself. [/sarcasm]

First of all, RAPPY, you took a POSSIBLE WORD ORIGIN, and mixed it up with the current definition. It's a common dodge, when a word means something that you don't want it to mean, but the reality is that many words change their meaning over a couple hundred years, and in current lingo no longer mean what they meant "back then". During the times of the American South, "lynching" meant hanging - whether for blacks or whites. Most commonly, blacks.

Furthermore, even the origin (which you cite) is a weak one. Notice the word obscure, and the fact that two people (not one) are listed as the possible/ likely originators.

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The origins of the word lynch are obscure, but likely originates during the American revolution. The term originates from the phrase "Lynch Law", a term for a punishment without trial. Two Americans during this era are generally credited for the phrase: Charles Lynch and William Lynch, who both lived in Virginia in the 1780s. Charles Lynch has the better claim, as he was known to have used the term in 1782, while William Lynch isn't known to have used the term until much later. There is no evidence that death was imposed as a punishment by either of the two men.


Nice try, but no joy. The word means what it means.


I suppose you probably also think that niggardly is a racist term, right?
And "thug" is a black criminal?
Illiterate much?



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Again
Again? When was the first time?


First time is long in the past, but in this thread you have repeatedly tried to claim that word meanings do not mean what the word means.
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you have failed to recognize your own
Mine?
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devices
What?

First of all, what is a "device"? Makes no sense in the context as you used it.


Do the synonyms trick, dodge, flimflam, gimmick, ploy, sleight help?
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Secondly... you claim these "devices" (whatever they are) are mine. Is that because you presume that anyone who isn't a rightwing idiot must be a liberal?


No, but it is fair and normally accurate assumption that most of you illiterate are Libtards.
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Thirdly, you seem to think this has happened previously. Well I don't remember it happening at all. If fact, I'm not sure what "it" is. So please explain. if you can.


You have repeatedly in this thread tried to claim that words do not mean what they mean, that words have no relation to their origins.

I used as example the word niggardly because it has been redefined by the Libtards to mean a racial slur, having no relation to it's original definition, merely because the Libtards are (surprise) illiterate.

I also used the term Thug because it was originally derived from the Thuggee tribe of nomadic assassins of India, which were known to be dark skinned, but after the reported eradication of that tribe the meaning has diluted to include any color or shade of skin. But now Preezy of Da Steezy has decreed that it is a racial slur, changing it's meaning to only those of black skin, or "African" descent.

I was using further examples of where your illogical claims have failed. Do you not have the intellectual capacity to make the connection? the comparison? the pattern recognition?

RapKnight also followed with a contribution, posted prior to your ignorant post, pointing out that Black Hole has been redefined by the Libtard illiterate Blacks to mean a racial slur.

Perhaps you should consult with your Libtard illiterate brethren about which definitions you should admit or claim to know.

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Friday, May 15, 2015 5:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, again, I have failed to recognize my own devices?

I've never argued that a word doesn't mean what it means. What I have often done is press people to define what THEY mean when they us a word. Quite often, I've found that people don't understand the meanings of the words they use.

Words often give us the feeling that we understand something. But just try defining what a "bowl" is, and distinguishing it from a Japanese teacup, drinking glasses, and other containers meant to hold liquids, and you'll find that the word "bowl" is a little hazy on the edges. Words suggest that objects, events, and processes are focused, laser-like, idealized, but actual reality exists on a spectrum. There is running, and there is jogging, and walking, and strolling. There is life and there is not-alive. There is human, and there is non-human. Now, tell me where one begins and the other ends, and you will have defined your words.

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Friday, May 15, 2015 8:41 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

As well he should. I defy anyone who tries to tell me that this piece of go-se deserves to live. He's an unrepentant mass murdering Muslim psycho.





So the death penalty is fine so long as it is administered by Mericans, right?

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Saturday, May 16, 2015 7:32 AM

AURAPTOR

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Yes.

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Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:01 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Then don't be shocked, offended, and terrified, RAPPY, when somebody in some foreign land decides that they've gotten tired of Americans smugly dealing death at random, and so they decide to deal death here.

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Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:13 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Then don't be shocked, offended, and terrified, RAPPY, when somebody in some foreign land decides that they've gotten tired of Americans smugly dealing death at random, and so they decide to deal death here.

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I will be, and we all should be.

The sentencing of Boston bomber wasn't by any stretch " smugly dealing death at random ", you witless clod. But I'm sure you equate blowing the legs off of spectators at a marathon to be on par w/ spraying bullets around as revenge for drawing a cartoon of Mohammad, huh ?

Psycho.

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Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:14 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It's your arrogance and completely, brainless hypocrisy that's the problem. You get all exercised when "someone else" executes a prisoner, but it's plain (you said so yourself) that when we do it, "that's different".

You've been saying that ever since you got to this board: That WE can invaded and kill hundreds of thousands - if not millions- of civilians for completely specious reasons, that WE can execute prisoners, that WE can torture suspects, that WE can economically waterboard the poor and impose our "way of life" on others.

Why?

Because we WE do it, "that's different". But when someone else does it to us ... OMG! PANIC!
You don't even recognize your kindred spirits when you look at jihadists, do you? People who do exactly what we do but with far less technologically-advanced resources, who wind up being a lot less effective at killing by the millions.
Of course not.

Well, we set the rules of the game. We installed terrorist-supporting tyrannies, we killed wide swaths in the middle east. So, the rules of the game will come back to us. Like I said, just don't be surprised, and TRY not to panic this time, you unaccountable moral relativist, you worthless piece of amoral shit, you sub-human orc-like creature who deserves to be exterminated. At least, by YOUR reckoning.



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Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:19 AM

AURAPTOR

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Just so everyone knows, Sig supports the Boston bomber.


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Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:20 AM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just do everyone knows, Sig supports the Boston bomber.



No, I don't. I just don't support the death penalty.

You, OTOH, support terrorism, genocide, and torture. You've said so yourself.

And then you panic and squeal like a pig when your own morals come home to roost.

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Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just do everyone knows, Sig supports the Boston bomber.



You, OTOH, support terrorism, genocide, and torture. You've said so yourself.

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Another complete & total lie, by Sig.

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Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:24 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I can quote you, from this very thread even. That's the great thing about the internet. You're a liar and a coward, as well as being a hypocrite and a coward (Oh, did I say that already?). And BTW- you're a coward. A tick on the ass of humanity. A worthless piece of shit. A subhuman orc-like being who deserves to be exterminated, At least, according to your assessment of how people like you should be treated. And this is one place where, surprisingly, I'm tempted to agree with you. So go ahead: drink your own koolaid.



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Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:26 AM

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Sorry Sig, but drug running & blowing kids legs off aren't on par with each other. I'm glad I'll never live in a world where those 2 things are equal.

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Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:29 AM

SIGNYM

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Sorry Sig, but drug running & blowing kids legs off aren't on par with each other. I'm glad I'll never live in a world where those 2 things are equal.


So, killing and maiming innocent civilians for political reasons is a terrible crime which deserves the death penalty??

I wouldn't have gotten that from any of your previous statements. I thought you would have been a-OK with all that, seeing as you promote it so heavily as American policy!

But, yanno ... if you choose to promote a my-side versus your-side, anything goes, kill-or-be-killed world.... you should be prepared to be dealt with in the same way.

Instead, you're a fucking coward. Yes, coward. The moment someone approaches you with your own morally-relativistic code, and treats YOU like potential "collateral" - or intentional- "damage" you're the first one to start squealing about fairness, like a stuck pig. Worse, if someone actually manages to harm Americans, you utterly and completely panic. But what goes around comes around, you brainless jackass. You can't even live with the consequences of your moral code, you sub-human orc-like creature who deserves to be exterminated. At least, according to your own assessment, which can be found here: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=59750



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Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:31 PM

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But, yanno ... if you choose to promote a my-side versus your-side, anything goes, kill-or-be-killed world.... you should be prepared to be dealt with in the same way





Reagan : " we win, they lose"

Yeah, I'm down with that.

The real problem here w/ you Sig is that you're trying to heap on the full weight of all what pisses you off about the USA, when the simple fact of the matter is, it's just about THIS case.

The Boston Bomber ( I won't use his name ) committed a heinous act, for which he deserves to die. End of discussion.

I'm not the one calling for all Muslims to be held accountable for his actions, but for some bat crazy reason, YOU seem to think his twisted and horrific act had some basis in legitimacy. It didn't. HE wasn't wronged , what so ever , by the actions of the USA. Quite the contrary, he and his family benefited GREATLY from the generosity and freedom by simply coming here. And yet, he chose to murder innocents ?

To quote Jayne... Where's that get fun ?

These conversations would remain far more civil if you'd not try to connect EVERYTHING to your hatred for America , white straight males, or capitalism sucks screed, each and every damn time.


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Saturday, May 16, 2015 7:41 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just so everyone knows, Sig supports the Boston bomber.


/b]



Herein lies your flawed and rather idiotic logic, that you draw a correlation between opposing the death penalty and supporting murder.

So for all you like minded dolts out there, the two are not connected.

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 1:15 AM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just so everyone knows, Sig supports the Boston bomber.


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Herein lies your flawed and rather idiotic logic, that you draw a correlation between opposing the death penalty and supporting murder.

So for all you like minded dolts out there, the two are not connected.



Tell it to Sig.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:00 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh, your usual straw-manning - AGAIN. Geeze, after all these years you should've been able to think up something else. Oh. Wait. Yeah, it IS you I'm talking about. That'd be like expecting you to poop gold.

Nevermind.




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Sunday, May 17, 2015 12:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Herein lies your flawed and rather idiotic logic, that you draw a correlation between opposing the death penalty and supporting murder. So for all you like minded dolts out there, the two are not connected.-MAGONS

Tell it to Sig.- RAPPY



In fact, the two ARE connected. If you support the death penalty, you're supporting the commission of murder. If you oppose the death penalty, you're against murder.

Being "against murder" doesn't mean that you execute murderers. Isn't that doing what murderers do? Kill in cold blood for political and personal ends?

The funny thing is, the death penalty is something I've changed my mind about .... twice! I grew up being against the death penalty because that was the household norm. Then, I got the idea of vengeance, and for a decade or so I supported the death penalty. But on further reflection, I see that it's just inconsistent with my other morals. Mistakes are made, innocent people are murdered (by the state) and the funny thing is... it doesn't even work to reduce crime.

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 1:00 PM

AURAPTOR

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Isn't that doing what murderers do? Kill in cold blood for political and personal ends?


You have an extreme, fundamental lack of understanding of the criminal mind.


And yes, there is such a thing.


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Sunday, May 17, 2015 2:08 PM

JONGSSTRAW


James Woods tweeted that "it's a shame we only get to kill him once". Love the Woodmeister!

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 2:14 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
James Woods tweeted that "it's a shame we only get to kill him once". Love the Woodmeister!



Friend's wife posted that we should blow his legs off, THEN send him to supermax prison for " life ".

Would THAT be agreeable to everyone ?

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 6:07 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

In fact, the two ARE connected. If you support the death penalty, you're supporting the commission of murder. If you oppose the death penalty, you're against murder.

Being "against murder" doesn't mean that you execute murderers. Isn't that doing what murderers do? Kill in cold blood for political and personal ends?

The funny thing is, the death penalty is something I've changed my mind about .... twice! I grew up being against the death penalty because that was the household norm. Then, I got the idea of vengeance, and for a decade or so I supported the death penalty. But on further reflection, I see that it's just inconsistent with my other morals. Mistakes are made, innocent people are murdered (by the state) and the funny thing is... it doesn't even work to reduce crime.



Too true. And a justice system that doles out vengence instead of justice is truly flawed.

I've never supported the death penalty. It seems inconceivable here, as the last execution was in the 1960's before it was removed. Every now and then you get people braying for it, a particularly onus crime occurs, but luckily it goes no further.

Like torture, execution corrupts the State that performs it.

But its too much sophisticated thinking for Neanderthal 1 and Neanderthal 2 here.

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 6:42 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by MagonsWhore:

.. vengence


It's vengeance you moron.

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execution corrupts the State that performs it.

Just Libtard bullshit.

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But its too much sophisticated thinking for Neanderthal 1 and Neanderthal 2 here.

Oh you want sophisticated thinking! Well then, go fuck yourself with a Rolls Royce tire iron.

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 6:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Drinking again?




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Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


KIKI: You have to ask?

Of course JONGSIE is drinking again! (Damn good thing she's not in Saudi Arabia! Beheading would be too good for that one! STONING! STONING is the only death penalty that would do!)

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:32 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
KIKI: You have to ask?

OF COURSE JONGSIE is drinking again!

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The question really is, WHAT is he drinking.

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:33 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Koolaid mixed with vodka. The vodka helps the Koolaid go down easier.

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 10:08 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


or troll juice.

Notice these days how Jongs slips so easily into descriptions of sexual violence when a woman disagrees with him.

What a paragon of virtue. Says it all about conservatism really. Under the thin veneer of respectability there lurks venom, hatred, violence and bigotry.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 1:46 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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You have an extreme, fundamental lack of understanding of the criminal mind.
You've been an asswipe since the day you started posting here, and nothing has changed. I understand you, and YOU have a criminal mind!

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Monday, May 18, 2015 3:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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You have an extreme, fundamental lack of understanding of the criminal mind.
You've been an asswipe since the day you started posting here, and nothing has changed. I understand you, and YOU have a criminal mind!



This coming from the Thought NAZI. Annoying you with independent views which counter your own constitutes a criminal mind ?

I've deprived no one of their rights, their freedoms or property, and yet you want to brand me as having a criminal mind ?

Crassic Left wing nuttery , straight up.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 4:03 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


First you lead out with yet another strawman. You've been doing that ever since you posted in rwe - well over 11 years by now. You really REALLY need to get a new schtick, or people are going to think you're brainless. And then you play the victim card. Isn't that what you say liberals do?




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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:13 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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You have an extreme, fundamental lack of understanding of the criminal mind.
You've been an asswipe since the day you started posting here, and nothing has changed. I understand you, and YOU have a criminal mind!


This coming from the Thought NAZI. Annoying you with independent views which counter your own constitutes a criminal mind ?

I've deprived no one of their rights, their freedoms or property, and yet you want to brand me as having a criminal mind ?

Crassic Left wing nuttery , straight up.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


I beg to differ that SNIGGY understands RapKnight.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 9:55 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
First you lead out with yet another strawman. You've been doing that ever since you posted in rwe - well over 11 years by now. You really REALLY need to get a new schtick, or people are going to think you're brainless. And then you play the victim card. Isn't that what you say liberals do?



You don't even know what a straw man argument is, 1kiki, and yet you accuse me of " another " one. Can't have another unless I've had a first.

Sorry, you don't get to accuse others of strawmen simply because you can't deal w/ the facts, or you don't like the logical conclusions.

And what else would you call it when a person is wrongly accused of being that which they aren't ?

Unlike a proggie, I'm not asking for free stuff to appease my being wronged. THAT is what liberals do. That's not what I'm doing, nor would I.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"I've deprived no one of their rights, their freedoms or property, and yet you want to brand me as having a criminal mind ?'

No one said you did any of those. And yet you PRETEND to make a valid denial to an EXISTING argument. That's by definition a strawman. And that's one strawman of many.



"... and yet you want to brand me as having a criminal mind ?"

And there you are painting yourself as the wrongly BRANDED victim. Accused? Maybe. Wrongly? Who knows. BRANDED? Definitely not.



"Unlike a proggie, I'm not asking for free stuff to appease my being wronged. THAT is what liberals do. That's not what I'm doing, nor would I.:

But no one argued you were. Misrepresenting an argument AGAIN? Yet another strawman.



I'm sorry you have such a poor grasp of English. You seem completely unable to grasp a single point anyone makes. You might take an ESL class to correct that.

Or is it a deliberate tactic? Then your lack of any shred of honesty will be far harder to overcome.




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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 6:26 PM

AURAPTOR

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Fact is, I'm more honest than you can comprehend, 1kiki.

And that clearly disturbs you to no end.

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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 6:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Did you just do a rappy AGAIN? ... dismiss the evidence of YOUR OWN WORDS out of hand ... You offered no proof. No explanation. ... and then you proceeded to insult any further discussion on the matter.




To recap YOUR POSTS and YOUR TACTICS;

"I've deprived no one of their rights, their freedoms or property, and yet you want to brand me as having a criminal mind ?'

No one said you did any of those. And yet you PRETEND to make a valid denial to an EXISTING argument. That's by definition a strawman. And that's one strawman of many.



"... and yet you want to brand me as having a criminal mind ?"

And there you are painting yourself as the wrongly BRANDED victim. Accused? Maybe. Wrongly? Who knows. BRANDED? Definitely not.



"Unlike a proggie, I'm not asking for free stuff to appease my being wronged. THAT is what liberals do. That's not what I'm doing, nor would I.:

But no one argued you were. Misrepresenting an argument AGAIN? Yet another strawman.








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