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A Top Conservative Pundit Renounces Bush

POSTED BY: MISBEHAVEN
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 13:33
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Monday, August 21, 2006 10:07 AM

MISBEHAVEN


I like to occasionally watch conservative pundits, so that I can stay relatively informed of their political positions. Not that they ever vary too much. However, several days ago Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman and host of the conservative Scarborough country, grilled his guests about whether, "George Bush's mental weakness is damaging America's credibility at home and abroad." For 10 minutes, the caption across the bottom of the television screen read, "IS BUSH AN 'IDIOT'?"

And Scarborough's answer to the captioned question was hardly "no." While other Presidents have been called stupid, Scarborough said: "I think George Bush is in a league by himself. I don't think he has the intellectual depth as these other people."

William F. Buckley Jr., the founder of the National Review and an icon of the Ronald Reagan-era conservative movement, caused a stir earlier this year when he wrote that "our mission has failed" in Iraq -- just a few months after Bush hosted a White House tribute to Buckley's 80th birthday and the magazine's 50th anniversary.

However, few have struck a nerve more than Scarborough, who questioned the President's intelligence on his show. He showed a montage of clips of Bush's famously inarticulate verbal miscues, and then explored with guests John Fund and Lawrence O'Donnell Jr. whether Bush is smart enough to be President.

While the country does not want a leader wallowing in the weeds, Scarborough concluded on the segment, "we do need a President who, I think, is intellectually curious."

I have to congratulate Scarborough. It appears as if he's no longer willing to deny reality: George W. Bush is a simpleton, and his policies, both foreign and domestic, reflect his ignorance and ineptitude.






"The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation."
-Bertrand Russell

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Monday, August 21, 2006 10:16 AM

CHRISISALL


I love this one.
Agree completly, and glad some conservatives are ready to break ties with the ignorant psudeo-cons.

Good luck, with the not gettin' flamed an' all, Misbehaven.

I sense the presence of Bushites Chrisisall

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Monday, August 21, 2006 10:22 AM

MISBEHAVEN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Good luck, with the not gettin' flamed an' all, Misbehaven.



Thanks, but I expect it to get toasty in here.

"The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation."
-Bertrand Russell

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Monday, August 21, 2006 10:40 AM

DAYVE


I usually turn off MSNBC after Olberman's show, but I did see Scarborough the night he was calling Bush an Idiot... you know what they say about rats and sinking ships.....

here's a graphic from :gasp: Fox...... is this a new strategy..?

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Monday, August 21, 2006 10:46 AM

SERGEANTX


I suppose it's encouraging to see some of the more intelligent Republican leaders distancing themselves from Bush. But it seems awfully opportunistic of them to wait until he's coasting safely to the end of his second term. If they can tell he's a buffoon now, they saw it back then. They just didn't care because they value power more.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Monday, August 21, 2006 10:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Besides, while Bush is an idiot Bush is NOT making policy. Dubya never "decides" anything until after a private consultation with Cheney. It would be far more meaningful if Scarborough said "Cheney is a sociopath" or "The Administraion's policies have failed". OTOH: Maybe they're creating a simple message for simple minds. Maybe they're aiming this message at the simpletons who follow Bush.

Okay, nevermind. Sarge said it better.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 11:05 AM

ERIC


They're scared shitless about losing the House, and cutting their losses after the christofascist ultra-right became a liability. Hopefully it's to late for that. If the Dems have any sense (big if), this fall's slogan will be "Rubber Stamp Republicans."

The perfect commercial: Photo montage of W engaged in dumbassery (not difficult- flight suit, blank stares at press conferences, photos of flag-draped coffins and dead civilians, Katrina victims, etc) voiced over by repetitions of "This is the president who..." then list all the shit that he's pulled. Then cut to a collage of all the repigs up for reelection in the House, accompanied by "...and this is the congress that let him get away with it all. This November, fire the Rubber Stamp Republicans."

James Carville would approve this message

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Monday, August 21, 2006 11:10 AM

ANTIMASON


the '08 presidential elections are going to be ugly; it seems to me that a new phase of the globalist agenda is being phased in...maybe the propoganda departments are prepping us for something. the establishment is busy conditioning us that we're inevitably going to be attacked, and they secretly want all the control they can handle...when it happens, they could use this as an attack on Bush, promote a democratic administratin to take office, and appear to rescue us from the republicans..only too further the scope and accuteness of the agenda.

i think both parties are going in the wrong direction, and no matter who gets elected the agenda will just be more of the same catering to billion dollar interests; because the money will not be behind good guys. we always get whoever sells himself to the the corporate/banking/defense lobbyists and their globalist corporatocracy agenda.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 11:24 AM

MAGHAFFAR


First off, kudos to ERIC for coining a new term: "Dumbassery" -- brilliant, especially when applied to G-Dubya.

Second, wrt: Reagan... At least he had Alzheimer's and in hindsight his backers could use that as an excuse for him being "not there", but G-Dubya is THE definition of "political marionette." Only question is whether the American people are going to be smart enough to not elect another one to replace him. ("Didn't we have some intricate plan about how he was gonna be NOT HERE anymore?") In a country where you need a license to catch a fish, any brain-dead imbecile can be the President. Remember Dan Quayle making that reference about Latin America and how he would have studied the language more if he'd known it was going to be such a hot-spot geopolitically?

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Monday, August 21, 2006 11:33 AM

DREAMTROVE


Just to butt in here. A couple of things.

1. Not all that newsworthy, sadly, Scarborough cut Bush loose a while ago. Good for Joe though, he has a brain. I think O'Reilly should be cutting Bush loose soon.

2. The Media is cutting Bush loose because it's run by Bush's own machine, which in turn wants Hillary.

3. Hillary is being buttered up for the pig roast. She's the new stooge of the globalist agenda, or worse, one of the actual architects.

4. Watch to see who goes to support Hillary, or Lou Dobbs, though some of Lou's fans will be sincere.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 11:40 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Say what you want about Bush, I still think he's better tha either Kerry or Gore. Given a second chance, I'd make the same choice in a nano-second.

Call me a Bush fan or one who simply realized there's a vacuum of leadership in this country..I don't care. Between chosing Dumb and Dumber, you think you'll chose Dumber, simply because he speaks the Queen's English better?

Not I.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, August 21, 2006 11:50 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The Media is cutting Bush loose because it's run by Bush's own machine, which in turn wants Hillary.
you haven't replied to my other post. I list the Likud Party-linked neocons high up in Defense and State in the Bush Admin (far too many to be accidental) and draw a distinction between and Bill and Hillary. I would appreciate a reply. Thanks.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 11:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Say what you want about Bush, I still think he's better tha either Kerry or Gore. Given a second chance, I'd make the same choice in a nano-second. Call me a Bush fan or one who simply realized there's a vacuum of leadership in this country..I don't care. Between chosing Dumb and Dumber, you think you'll chose Dumber, simply because he speaks the Queen's English better? Not I.
Apparently you won't dump Bush until... whenever. Fine. You can go over the cliff with him and I'll be laughing and pointing all the way. And when you hit bottom I'll be saying....









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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 3:44 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Fine. You can go over the cliff with him and I'll be laughing and pointing all the way.

Signy, we all told him so.
Please don't laugh when a fellow Browncoat is so lost, so utterly self-deluded into believing that his country is run by righteous cowboys on the rim, and not The Alliance.
It's a little sad, is all.

The always uber-serious Chrisisall

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:20 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by misbehaven:
However, few have struck a nerve more than Scarborough, who questioned the President's intelligence on his show. He showed a montage of clips of Bush's famously inarticulate verbal miscues, and then explored with guests John Fund and Lawrence O'Donnell Jr. whether Bush is smart enough to be President.


He'd have a bigger audience looking into a mirror then looking into an MSNBC camera.

H

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:16 PM

ANTIMASON


see..this is one of the problems of the democrats(i dont mean you Missbehaven)..Bush isnt an idiot, hes just lying his ass off constantly

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:33 PM

MISBEHAVEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
He'd have a bigger audience looking into a mirror then looking into an MSNBC camera.



I take it you're probably a Fox News man, Hero. But I guess they run a fairly good station, if you like biased, nationalistic news coverage. When it comes to propaganda, Fox is in a league all their own. The way they sold the Iraq war to millions of Americans, and helped to hand Bush the presidency would have made even Joseph Goebbels proud.

"The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation."
-Bertrand Russell

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