REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

G U I L T Y

POSTED BY: DEADLOCKVICTIM
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 10:26
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 1565
PAGE 1 of 1

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 8:23 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM


from AP - via Huff Po

Former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby was convicted Tuesday of obstruction, perjury and lying to the FBI in an investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity.
Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was accused of lying and obstructing the investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to reporters.


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 8:30 AM

CITIZEN


Proof merely of liberal bias in the legal system.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:13 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Finally ... a glimmer of sanity returns to the country.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:20 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Proof merely of liberal bias in the legal system.




11 randomly selected jurors, ordinary citizens questioned by the defense before they were allowed to sit. The defense had opportunity to challenge any of them for prejudice.

And they deliberate for what , 9 days, in total secret, where thay can say or think whatever they want, in honest truth before their own consciences, free of any outside influence.

Don't see how that proves liberal bias...

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:22 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Don't see how that proves liberal bias...

Everything proves liberal bias. Where have you been?

They were obviously brainwashed by the Liberally biased news services, like FOX.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:23 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM


Hopefully Karl, Dick & friends will have some nice parting gifts for Scooter before he heads off to Club Fed....

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:37 AM

JWHEDONADDICT


I guess I'm confused. I admit it's been a good long while since I've watched FOX News, but since when are they liberal? It's always seemed to me that all the news channels are conservative, but FOX News was the only one who didn't bother hiding it. The others at least tried to appear neutral.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:38 AM

JWHEDONADDICT


Sorry!

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:42 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


A couple hours before the GUILTY verdict was reported, Dick had a stroke, er, thrombosis...
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2332073.ece

Odds Change: Cheney could resign or die in office
www.capitolhillblue.com/cm/content/view/155/158/

Quote:


18 US Code § 2381. Treason.
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.




Jews Scooter, Bush & Cheney are homosexual Commie liberals:

Quote:


Libby's lurid book in demand

news.com.au
8 November 2005





A STEAMY novel by I Lewis "Scooter" Libby has become a hot item now that Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff is under indictment.

An inscribed copy of The Apprentice: A Novel, which Libby wrote in 1996 when he was a relative unknown outside Washington, was on sale on online bookseller Amazon.com today for $US2400 ($A3280). Unsigned hardcover copies were going for $US700 ($A956).

Now out of print, the novel tells the story of an innkeeper apprentice in a bizarre coming-of-age story set in Japan in 1903. It is littered with edgy sexual material and strong language.

"Wow, who would have thought that clean living, family values man Scooter Libby was capable of writing such filth," said one reviewer on Amazon.

Another Amazon reviewer noted its "lavish dollops of voyeurism, bestiality, pedophilia and corpse robbery."

Libby was charged last month with perjury in a special prosecutor's probe into how a CIA operative's identity was leaked to journalists.

Libby's writing skills also happened to be displayed in a widely published letter to reporter Judith Miller of The New York Times that showed a flair for literary allusion and ambiguity.

"Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them," he wrote to Miller as she sat in jail earlier this year for refusing to reveal Libby's identity as a source.

Neo Con Pholggers:
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517836/posts





"You can't stop the signal!"
-Mr Universe, Pirate TV

FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2
Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation
https://video.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/716.shtml
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=8cd2bd0379340120e7a6ed00f2a53ee5
.1044556

www.myspace.com/piratenewsctv
www.piratenews.org


Does that seem right to you?
www.scifi.com/onair/

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:49 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Don't see how that proves liberal bias...

Everything proves liberal bias. Where have you been?

They were obviously brainwashed by the Liberally biased news services, like FOX.



Oh, OK, that explains it. Guess I forgot...

Damn, I was gonna take that new memory-improving drug for old guys like me, but I forget the name of it, so I can't ask my doctor if it's covered by my drug benefit.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 10:04 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was accused of lying and obstructing the investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to reporters.



When does Richard Armitage go on trial again ? After all, it was he, and not Libby, who ' outted' CIA employee Val Plame.


This round goes to the CIA. After vowing not to take the heat for screwing up the intel on Iraq, they've been able to set up the Bush administration by framing a lower level staffer.

I feel safer already.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 10:21 AM

SOUPCATCHER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
When does Richard Armitage go on trial again ? After all, it was he, and not Libby, who ' outted' CIA employee Val Plame.


This round goes to the CIA. After vowing not to take the heat for screwing up the intel on Iraq, they've been able to set up the Bush administration by framing a lower level staffer.

I feel safer already.


If you're really serious re: learning more about the investigation and why Libby was tried and found guilty then I suggest you do a number of things: turn off Fox News, go buy a copy of Marcy Wheeler's book* and read through the archive posts over at firedoglake.com**. That's just for starters.

* http://www.amazon.com/dp/0979176107?tag2=firedoglake-20

** http://www.firedoglake.com/category/cia-leak-case/


eta: Oh, and before I forget, I'd like to wish everyone a Merry Fitzmas!

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 10:45 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
When does Richard Armitage go on trial again ? After all, it was he, and not Libby, who ' outted' CIA employee Val Plame.


This round goes to the CIA. After vowing not to take the heat for screwing up the intel on Iraq, they've been able to set up the Bush administration by framing a lower level staffer.

I feel safer already.


If you're really serious re: learning more about the investigation and why Libby was tried and found guilty then I suggest you do a number of things: turn off Fox News, go buy a copy of Marcy Wheeler's book* and read through the archive posts over at firedoglake.com**. That's just for starters.

* http://www.amazon.com/dp/0979176107?tag2=firedoglake-20

** http://www.firedoglake.com/category/cia-leak-case/


eta: Oh, and before I forget, I'd like to wish everyone a Merry Fitzmas!



I've watched less FOX NEWS than I have 'Survivor' or ' American Idol'.( If it's possible to watch negative of anything, that that's what I've done. ) Granted, I didn't cover the trial other than hearing the highlights, but what was there to cover ? Everyone acknowledges that it was Armitage, and not Libby, who 'leaked' Val Plames's name out. And there's no indication at all she was a 'covert' agent. Not recently, at least. So it's no shocker that Libby wasn't charged with anything remotely having to do w/ 'outting' a CIA agent.

What was this trial about again?


People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 10:58 AM

SOUPCATCHER


* edited to add: Hmmm. Let me try this again (crosses fingers that this doesn't lead to the dreaded double post)

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
What was this trial about again?


Obstruction of justice. Libby impeded an investigation by lying to investigators. He perjured himself before a grand jury in an effort to stall the investigation.

What the evidence shows is that Scooter Libby asked numerous administration/intelligence officials for information about Plame (all of this before Wilson even wrote his op-ed). In other words, he was the person who was tasked with building up the attack on Wilson. Cheney was livid that the claims about WMDs were being challenged and set Libby up with the task of destroying Wilson's credibility. Libby lied to the investigators to cover-up the role that he and Cheney played in Plame's outing.


* eta: A simplified version is this: if Cheney and Libby do nothing then Armitage doesn't have the information to leak to Novak in the first place.

* eta: Another thing to keep in mind, Libby was one of the leakers as well. He leaked the information to Judith Miller. Right after he spent some time with the White House counsel asking some very specific questions that made it look like he was concerned about what he was about to do.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 11:22 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM


Hollywood will set the story straight - a movie is in the works....(i wonder who will play big Dick?)

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 11:34 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


This round goes to the CIA. After vowing not to take the heat for screwing up the intel on Iraq, they've been able to set up the Bush administration by framing a lower level staffer.



I'm no big fan of the CIA, but it's not their idea to screw up everything. That gets done at a higher level. Doody runs downhill. The CIA is like every other agency; they'll tell you what you want to hear if you put enough pressure on them (but NO torture; the CIA does not respond well to that).

*suddenly realizes*
In RL, Mal would be a CIA operative, and the Operative would be the head of an Arab terrorist cell, and Miranda would be the hiding place for all the millions of tons of unfound (but totally REAL) WMD's. Firefly is, after all, a story set in space, but reflecting the conflict here and now between the wusses who don't understand that destruction is the only way to secure our future, and the real HEROES that are willing to sacrifice this nation's kids for an idea: that God wants us to prevail in this war against our way of life. He wants us to smite our enemy, the democracy-less, resentfull-for-no-good-reason towel-heads! We open the world up for them, and they hate us for it.
Jayne would surely say to nuke them.

Suddenly, I get AURaptor's POV Chrisisall

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 12:35 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Suddenly, I get AURaptor's POV Chrisisall

We all 'get' Auraptors 'POV' Chris.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 1:20 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


CNN, September 3, 2003:

Quote:


TUCKER CARLSON: A lot of entertainers have come out against the war in Iraq. Have you?

BRITNEY SPEARS: Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision he makes and should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens.

CARLSON: Do you trust this president?

SPEARS: Yes, I do.

-FAHRENHEIT 9/11
www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/03/cnna.spears/



CNN today:

Quote:


REPORTS have emerged from the UK that fallen pop star Britney Spears tried to hang herself with a bedsheet during rehab, after screaming that she was the "anti-christ".

She made the demonic cry after scrawling the devil's number "666" across her head.

www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21325695-5001021,00.html


Another Neo Con moron bites the dust. HA!




"You can't stop the signal!"
-Mr Universe, Pirate TV

FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2
Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation
https://video.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/716.shtml
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=8cd2bd0379340120e7a6ed00f2a53ee5
.1044556

www.myspace.com/piratenewsctv
www.piratenews.org


Does that seem right to you?
www.scifi.com/onair/

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 6:32 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

: that God wants us to prevail in this war against our way of life. He wants us to smite our enemy, the democracy-less, resentfull-for-no-good-reason towel-heads! We open the world up for them, and they hate us for it.
Jayne would surely say to nuke them.

Suddenly, I get AURaptor's POV Chrisisall



Jayne might be the smartest one of the bunch, in this situation.

You're welcome on my world. Your God ain't.

Fuzzy wuzzys need not apply AURaptor.





People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:12 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:





Suddenly, I get AURaptor's POV Chrisisall



Chris , No.


I read this and I heard two new voices inside my head.

One was a little fat guy with a high voice saying,
" No, Mr. Frodo, don't wear the ring any more."

And the other was an old guy in a robe with a hodd, saying, " Don't give in to the Dark Side, Luke."

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, March 7, 2007 4:24 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Jayne might be the smartest one of the bunch, in this situation.


So, I more or less nailed it?

I see in the Firefly characters what I want to see, and I sometimes forget that Mal might just see me as a goody-two-shoes and order me to shut up or get off his boat if I want to keep asking him if robbing a bank might get someone innocent shot (guess that more or less makes me Simon...).
I suppose you see him as a man who does what he needs to to get the job done, like GW.
Still, I suspect Mal would see Bush as Alliance, not much different than the Operative, while Jayne would view him as a pussy ("Gee, we sure could use some grenades right about now, don't ya think?") who worries too much about what the whiny public wants.

Just a thought Chrisisall

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, March 7, 2007 5:22 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
" Don't give in to the Dark Side, Luke."

*Looks at his hand- throws down the sabre*
No, I won't be converted as AURaptor was. Pop Politics has failed, your Highness.

Chrisisall

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, March 7, 2007 8:16 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Suddenly, I get AURaptor's POV Chrisisall

We all 'get' Auraptors 'POV' Chris.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
]

Yeah, but now how do we GET rid of it?


----
Bestower of Titles, Designer of Tshirts, Maker of Mottos, Keeper of the Pyre, Owner of a too big Turnippy smelling coat with MR scratched in the neck (thanks FollowMal!)

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, March 7, 2007 8:27 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

Yeah, but now how do we GET rid of it?

A POVectomy.
Kidding. We need points of view. Sometimes irrational ones point the way to the reasonable ones we should have. Sometimes what we percieve as irrational has valuable points we don't consider.
Sometimes we're just plain wrong.

The "Love Mankind" Chrisisall

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:02 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
A POVectomy.
Kidding. We need points of view. Sometimes irrational ones point the way to the reasonable ones we should have. Sometimes what we percieve as irrational has valuable points we don't consider.
Sometimes we're just plain wrong.

The "Love Mankind" Chrisisall

In other words if you think the exact opposite to AURaptor you're doing okay.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, March 7, 2007 10:26 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
In other words if you think the exact opposite to AURaptor you're doing okay.


I won't go that far. There are some things he can be reasonable about, the absolute opposite of AU would be...Dr. Cocteau in Demolition Man

Forgive me for my lack of physical disposition Chrisisall

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Sat, November 23, 2024 10:01 - 7494 posts
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Sat, November 23, 2024 09:59 - 4753 posts
human actions, global climate change, global human solutions
Sat, November 23, 2024 09:21 - 944 posts
Game Companies are Morons.
Sat, November 23, 2024 09:11 - 182 posts
Elections; 2024
Sat, November 23, 2024 08:57 - 4795 posts
Is Elon Musk Nuts?
Sat, November 23, 2024 07:23 - 421 posts
Idiot Democrat Wine Mom
Sat, November 23, 2024 05:26 - 1 posts
Where is the 25th ammendment when you need it?
Sat, November 23, 2024 01:40 - 11 posts
Thread of Trump Appointments / Other Changes of Scenery...
Sat, November 23, 2024 01:33 - 41 posts
Biden admin quietly loosening immigration policies before Trump takes office — including letting migrants skip ICE check-ins in NYC
Sat, November 23, 2024 01:15 - 3 posts
RCP Average Continues to Be the Most Accurate in the Industry Because We Don't Weight Polls
Sat, November 23, 2024 00:46 - 1 posts
why does NASA hate the moon?
Fri, November 22, 2024 20:54 - 9 posts

FFF.NET SOCIAL