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Saddam almost had suitcase nukes!!!

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Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


At least, according to Dick Cheney.

That's the argument that Cheney used on another dick... Dick Armey... to convince him that we had to go to war. When the GOP House Majority Leader expressed doubt about invading, Cheney did a one-on-one briefing to lay this bombshell of a lie on Armey to push him into supporting the invasion. Armey had (rightly) figured that Saddam's WMD program- in whatever shape is was- was toothless w/o a delivery system. It was only when Cheney whispered this lie into Armey's ear that he changed his mind.

Armey says he feels as if he was lied to.

Ya think?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=59119.0

So when the idea that Saddam's WMD were an immediate and growing threat (For which there was no evidence whatsoever) failed to sway Armey, and the other idea that Saddam had operational ties with al Qaida (for which there was almost no evidence) also failed to sway Armey, Cheney resorted to yet another fabrication.

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Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:07 AM

CHRISISALL


There is no proof that he DIDN'T have suitcase nukes! Signy, you are so terrified of non-evidence that threatens your ideology that you won't even consider it!
He violated UN resolutions, you know!!!!

isall

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Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:49 AM

JOSEPHUS


Not a winning argument Chrisisall.

You can't prove a negative. For instance, there's no proof that Saddam didn't have peanuts up his nose, so he probably had peanuts up his nose.

No evidence that he didn't clone himself and is now living in Miami so he's probably living in Miami.

No evidence that he wasn't a space alien so he's probably a space alien.

I could go on with this fun but hopefully you get the point and if not then others here will.

Only those who adhere to a failed ideology have to resort to non-evidence to bolster their non-logic.

BTW, the U.S. and Israel have also violated UN resolutions...what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Josephus

Only when love and need are one
And the work is play for mortal stakes
Is the deed ever really done
For Heaven and the future's sake.

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Thursday, September 18, 2008 7:10 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Saddam never did anything unless his CIA bosses told him to, like invade Iran, invade Kuwait, deposit billions of Food For Oil dollars in the secret bank account with the German Nazi Queen of England.

Quote:

"It is the business of a general to be quiet and thus insure secrecy. He must be able to mystify his officers and men by false reports and appearances, and thus keep them in total ignorance."
—Sun Tzu, The Art of War

"If we do go to war, psychological operations are going to be absolutely a critical, critical part of any campaign that we must get involved in."
-General H. Norman Schwarzkopf

US Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie: "I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business."
President Saddam Hussein: "As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death."
Glaspie: "We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960's, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America."
President Saddam Hussein: (smiles)
-Videotaped meeting between Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and US Ambassador April Glaspie, July 25, 1990 (Eight days before the August 2, 1990 Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait)

Journalist 2: "You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait) but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait."
Journalist 1: "You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"
US Ambassador Glaspie: "Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait."
-US Embassy, Baghdad, Iraq, September 2, 1990

"Gen Michael Dugan, former Air Force chief of staff, once expressed his frustration over the Air Force's inability to educate its forces on doctrine. Dugan noted that if someone questioned an Army officer on his doctrine, he or she could quote chapter and verse from Army doctrine. Asked the same question, an Air Force officer could tell you when the bar opened at the Officers' Club. Dugan went on to assert that the Air Force was producing what were, in effect, "illiterate truck drivers.'
—Col Dennis M. Drew, USAF, Retired, AEROSPACE POWER, "INVENTING A DOCTRINE PROCESS"
www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/apj/drew.html




Iran-Contra included Pentagon and NATO arming Iraq DURING Gulf War #1 & #2, just like it armed Afghanistan, N Vietnam, N Korea and Nazi Germany during those wars.
www.gulfwarvets.com

When USAF and RAF bombed Libya in 1987, US special forces rescued President Qadaffi at this home before the attack that killed his daughter and 2 USAF pilots, "to prevent an international incident in case a visiting dignitary were killed".
www.piratenews.org/pentagonwhistleblower.html



Quote:

"There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater... the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public. You can't stop the signal."
-Mr Universe, Serenity

"I'm willing to be the most hated person for the next 50 years."
-George Bush Jr


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Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:01 AM

RIGHTEOUS9



Josephus,

while you are right, take my word for it, Chrisisal was being facitious.

Welcome to the real world forusm

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Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:13 AM

JOSEPHUS


Oh!

Sorry!

Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between someone being facetious and the true believers.

My bad.

Thanks

Josephus

Only when love and need are one
And the work is play for mortal stakes
Is the deed ever really done
For Heaven and the future's sake.

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Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:30 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Josephus:

No evidence that he didn't clone himself and is now living in Miami so he's probably living in Miami.

It's er, scientifically possible, I guess, but he'd be very young....
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BTW, the U.S. and Israel have also violated UN resolutions...


Maybe true, but WE violate UN resolutions righteously, whereas Saddam violated them all evil-like, see, rules only apply to evil-doers, we don't have to follow them the same way as everyone else because!!!
Saddam tortured folk, for cripe's sake!!! Peeps that torture peeps are EVIL, don't you get that??? WE don't torture peeps, we just waterboard them, which is information extraction. Sure, we send peeps to Syria & such, but WE don't torture the evil, Satan-worshiping killers, we let those other sub-humans do all the bad stuff so we can be still be free to go to Heaven when we kick.

Josephus, I think you have a very skewed idea of right & wrong, and I think I can speak for God here when I say you need a time out!

Chrisisall

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Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:51 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Josephus:
Oh!

Sorry!

Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between someone being facetious and the true believers.


I TRY to sound crazy, & just end up sounding like a true believer...zat tell ya anything 'bout them peeps?


Chrisisallnutz

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Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:07 PM

FREMDFIRMA


This thread is...

But then, so is RWED in general.

That's what makes it so bloody interesting.

-F

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