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Obama Takes Oath of Office. Again.
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:58 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Obama takes presidential oath again after stumble WASHINGTON – After the flub heard around the world, President Barack Obama has taken the oath of office. Again. Chief Justice John Roberts delivered the oath to Obama on Wednesday night at the White House — a rare do-over. The surprise moment came in response to Tuesday's much-noticed stumble, when Roberts got the words of the oath a little off, which prompted Obama to do so, too. Don't worry, the White House says: Obama has still been president since noon on Inauguration Day. Nevertheless, Obama and Roberts went through the drill again out of what White House counsel Greg Craig called "an abundance of caution." This time, the scene was the White House Map Room in front of a small group of reporters, not the Capitol platform before the whole watching world. "We decided that because it was so much fun ...," Obama joked to reporters who followed press secretary Robert Gibbs into the room. No TV camera crews or news photographers were allowed in. A few of Obama's closest aides were there, along with a White House photographer. Roberts put on his black robe. "Are you ready to take the oath?" he said. "Yes, I am," Obama said. "And we're going to do it very slowly." Roberts then led Obama through the oath without any missteps. The president said he did not have his Bible with him, but that the oath was binding anyway. The original, bungled version on Tuesday caught observers by surprise and then got replayed on cable news shows. It happened when Obama interrupted Roberts midway through the opening line, in which the president repeats his name and solemnly swears. Next in the oath is the phrase " ... that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States." But Roberts rearranged the order of the words, not saying "faithfully" until after "president of the United States." That appeared to throw Obama off. He stopped abruptly at the word "execute." Recognizing something was off, Roberts then repeated the phrase, putting "faithfully" in the right place but without repeating "execute." But Obama then repeated Roberts' original, incorrect version: "... the office of president of the United States faithfully." Craig, the White House lawyer, said in a statement Wednesday evening: "We believe the oath of office was administered effectively and that the president was sworn in appropriately yesterday. Yet the oath appears in the Constitution itself. And out of the abundance of caution, because there was one word out of sequence, Chief Justice John Roberts will administer the oath a second time." The Constitution is clear about the exact wording of the oath and as a result, some constitutional experts have said that a do-over probably wasn't necessary but also couldn't hurt. Two other previous presidents have repeated the oath because of similar issues, Calvin Coolidge and Chester A. Arthur.
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:20 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:47 PM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: NoBama is still an illegal alien.
Quote:A waitress at Wendys gets a more through background check than NoBoma got to be president.
Quote:NoBama's chief of staff Rahmbo is an Israeli soldier who has NO security clearance, yet he's been allowed to pass secrets to Mossad for 20 years.
Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:01 AM
DREAMTROVE
Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:08 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:35 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: From Yahoo News: Quote:Obama takes presidential oath again after stumble WASHINGTON – After the flub heard around the world, President Barack Obama has taken the oath of office. Again. Chief Justice John Roberts delivered the oath to Obama on Wednesday night at the White House — a rare do-over. The surprise moment came in response to Tuesday's much-noticed stumble, when Roberts got the words of the oath a little off, which prompted Obama to do so, too. Don't worry, the White House says: Obama has still been president since noon on Inauguration Day. Nevertheless, Obama and Roberts went through the drill again out of what White House counsel Greg Craig called "an abundance of caution." This time, the scene was the White House Map Room in front of a small group of reporters, not the Capitol platform before the whole watching world. "We decided that because it was so much fun ...," Obama joked to reporters who followed press secretary Robert Gibbs into the room. No TV camera crews or news photographers were allowed in. A few of Obama's closest aides were there, along with a White House photographer. Roberts put on his black robe. "Are you ready to take the oath?" he said. "Yes, I am," Obama said. "And we're going to do it very slowly." Roberts then led Obama through the oath without any missteps. The president said he did not have his Bible with him, but that the oath was binding anyway. The original, bungled version on Tuesday caught observers by surprise and then got replayed on cable news shows. It happened when Obama interrupted Roberts midway through the opening line, in which the president repeats his name and solemnly swears. Next in the oath is the phrase " ... that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States." But Roberts rearranged the order of the words, not saying "faithfully" until after "president of the United States." That appeared to throw Obama off. He stopped abruptly at the word "execute." Recognizing something was off, Roberts then repeated the phrase, putting "faithfully" in the right place but without repeating "execute." But Obama then repeated Roberts' original, incorrect version: "... the office of president of the United States faithfully." Craig, the White House lawyer, said in a statement Wednesday evening: "We believe the oath of office was administered effectively and that the president was sworn in appropriately yesterday. Yet the oath appears in the Constitution itself. And out of the abundance of caution, because there was one word out of sequence, Chief Justice John Roberts will administer the oath a second time." The Constitution is clear about the exact wording of the oath and as a result, some constitutional experts have said that a do-over probably wasn't necessary but also couldn't hurt. Two other previous presidents have repeated the oath because of similar issues, Calvin Coolidge and Chester A. Arthur. Dang. I was waiting for the conspiracy theorists to insist that he isn't really the President because the oath wasn't correctly administered. Mike "It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:02 PM
THOLO
Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:37 PM
PHOENIXROSE
You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: it will become a clothing optional country...
Friday, January 23, 2009 2:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by jewelstaitefan: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: From Yahoo News: Quote:Obama takes presidential oath again after stumble WASHINGTON – After the flub heard around the world, President Barack Obama has taken the oath of office. Again. Chief Justice John Roberts delivered the oath to Obama on Wednesday night at the White House — a rare do-over. The surprise moment came in response to Tuesday's much-noticed stumble, when Roberts got the words of the oath a little off, which prompted Obama to do so, too. Don't worry, the White House says: Obama has still been president since noon on Inauguration Day. Nevertheless, Obama and Roberts went through the drill again out of what White House counsel Greg Craig called "an abundance of caution." This time, the scene was the White House Map Room in front of a small group of reporters, not the Capitol platform before the whole watching world. "We decided that because it was so much fun ...," Obama joked to reporters who followed press secretary Robert Gibbs into the room. No TV camera crews or news photographers were allowed in. A few of Obama's closest aides were there, along with a White House photographer. Roberts put on his black robe. "Are you ready to take the oath?" he said. "Yes, I am," Obama said. "And we're going to do it very slowly." Roberts then led Obama through the oath without any missteps. The president said he did not have his Bible with him, but that the oath was binding anyway. The original, bungled version on Tuesday caught observers by surprise and then got replayed on cable news shows. It happened when Obama interrupted Roberts midway through the opening line, in which the president repeats his name and solemnly swears. Next in the oath is the phrase " ... that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States." But Roberts rearranged the order of the words, not saying "faithfully" until after "president of the United States." That appeared to throw Obama off. He stopped abruptly at the word "execute." Recognizing something was off, Roberts then repeated the phrase, putting "faithfully" in the right place but without repeating "execute." But Obama then repeated Roberts' original, incorrect version: "... the office of president of the United States faithfully." Craig, the White House lawyer, said in a statement Wednesday evening: "We believe the oath of office was administered effectively and that the president was sworn in appropriately yesterday. Yet the oath appears in the Constitution itself. And out of the abundance of caution, because there was one word out of sequence, Chief Justice John Roberts will administer the oath a second time." The Constitution is clear about the exact wording of the oath and as a result, some constitutional experts have said that a do-over probably wasn't necessary but also couldn't hurt. Two other previous presidents have repeated the oath because of similar issues, Calvin Coolidge and Chester A. Arthur. Dang. I was waiting for the conspiracy theorists to insist that he isn't really the President because the oath wasn't correctly administered. Mike "It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied." did you get it wrong yet again? The "redo" did not have a Bible present, nor Koran, so no "oath" was "sworn" - maybe he had his fingers crossed too, just to be safe from any responsibility.
Friday, January 23, 2009 3:11 AM
Friday, January 23, 2009 3:28 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Dang. I was waiting for the conspiracy theorists to insist that he isn't really the President because the oath wasn't correctly administered.
Friday, January 23, 2009 3:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: And you've got it wrong, yet again! Show me the part in the U.S. Constitution where it says the oath needs to be sworn on a bible. Go ahead, show me. I'll wait.
Friday, January 23, 2009 5:05 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Oh, anyone notice that he's been appointing special envoys to pre-empt Hillary
Friday, January 23, 2009 5:49 AM
Quote:FREM Of course, if that's all that's left, where did the hi-tech stuff they spent so much taxpayer money on GO?
Friday, January 23, 2009 9:16 AM
Quote: Oh, anyone notice that he's been appointing special envoys to pre-empt Hillary This dude is clever. It's going to take a while to shake a case of the Clintons, but here's to hoping he does.
Friday, January 23, 2009 9:19 AM
Friday, January 23, 2009 9:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Dang. I was waiting for the conspiracy theorists to insist that he isn't really the President because the oath wasn't correctly administered. I think thats what they were thinking. But it was all for show. The first document the President signed when they went into the Capital was the Oath. Signing it makes it legal and officially puts the President on the Federal payroll. Let me ask you this. If speaking the oath, as written, is a mandatory requirement, does the Constitution bar persons who are mute or who do not speak English, or who have some sort of disorder or injury? Constitutionally I say no, but what do you folks think? H
Quote: Where's he going to get a bible on short notice? Its not like they leave those things laying around. Using a bible is a tradition, not a requirement. They also could have used a different Judge, even a State Judge, or even a Justice of the Peace.
Friday, January 23, 2009 9:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Dang. I was waiting for the conspiracy theorists to insist that he isn't really the President because the oath wasn't correctly administered. I think thats what they were thinking.
Quote:Let me ask you this. If speaking the oath, as written, is a mandatory requirement, does the Constitution bar persons who are mute or who do not speak English, or who have some sort of disorder or injury? Constitutionally I say no, but what do you folks think?
Friday, January 23, 2009 9:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Quote:FREM Of course, if that's all that's left, where did the hi-tech stuff they spent so much taxpayer money on GO? Oh, you should see the awesome setup they have now in Dubai Yeah, the tech thing was funny, as was Obama winning his battle to keep his Blackberry. I agree about the clintonistas and the internal power struggle, and trying to snipe them out before it becomes an endless food fight. I also assume that Pelosi will be the first out on her bony ass.
Friday, January 23, 2009 9:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by PhoenixRose: Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Dang. I was waiting for the conspiracy theorists to insist that he isn't really the President because the oath wasn't correctly administered. I think thats what they were thinking. It was. You didn't have to wait long, cuz there was already a thread about it right here if you look Quote:Let me ask you this. If speaking the oath, as written, is a mandatory requirement, does the Constitution bar persons who are mute or who do not speak English, or who have some sort of disorder or injury? Constitutionally I say no, but what do you folks think?I don't think the Constitution would bar someone who was mute or otherwise disabled, no. I think they'd have a hell of a time running and winning, but they wouldn't be barred. Someone who doesn't speak English? Well, I suppose it would be possible to be born here, spend at least fifteen years residing in the country, and reach the required age without speaking any English... I don't think it's likely, and again I don't think such a person would have an easy time of it when it came to being elected to office. The majority of this country still speaks English, after all. [/sig]
Friday, January 23, 2009 10:08 AM
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