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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I said I would transcribe some of what's on the video "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism". Well, I took the time to transcribe the first few minutes and the last few minutes. It is made up mostly of quotes, both of former Fox News employees and quotes directly from Fox NEWS (remember that: Fox NEWS, not just commentators). If you take the time to read it, I dare you to tell me Fox is all about "fair and balanced":

Quote:

David Brock, CEO/Media Matters for America:

People are faced with critical choices about the future of the country when they go into the voting booth. I go in, and I have been, through the course of the campaign cycle, subject to false, distorted caricaturing, and I may not even know where it’s coming from because often there’s an echo effect off places like cable and radio and those wrong pieces of information are repeated and repeated; by the time it reaches me I don’t even know what the source was. This is the environment and it’s fundamentally undermining democracy, which is based on knowing some good and solid information so I can make an informed choice.

Murdoch’s reach:
US Network: 280 million people
Asia Satellite Network: 300 million people
Cable Channels: 300 million homes
Magazines: 28 million people
Total: 4.7 billion people (3/4 of world's population)

Gene Kimmelman; Senior Director of the Public Policy & Advocacy Consumers Union:
When you see the properties Rupert Murdoch owns around the world, the strong conservative view those properties reflect, it’s different than ABC or CBS or NBC. Sure, they reflect a point of view, but not nearly as strong and not nearly as consistently from one ideological perspective.

Larry Johnson; Former Fox News Contributor:
It was made very clear to us that we were being monitored, and if someone wasn’t doing it live, they were at least recording it and they would review it after the fact to see what we did

I’ve heard former employees, as well as bookers, express reservations, almost as if they’re being monitored by a Stalinist system, afraid to be seen talking to the wrong person or having the wrong kind of e-mail exchange

Diana Winthrop; Former Fox News Producer:
It was clear during those years that Murdoch, who had absolutely adored Ronald Reagan, adored him, had a lt of admiration for the group of Republicans who controlled Congress, and certainly on Capitol Hill.

Frank O’Donnell, Former Fox News Producer, Washington DC:
We received an order from one of Murdoch’s apparatchiks, if you will, that we should cut away from our newscasts and start carrying a fawning tribute to Ronald Reagan that was airing at the Republican Convention. We were stunned, because up until that point we were allowed to do legitimate news, and suddenly we were ordered from the top to start carrying propaganda, carrying Republican right-wing propaganda

Diana Winthrop:
There was a cultural underpinning to what Murdoch wanted: race issues, AIDS—I constantly remember complaints that there was too much being done on AIDS. He also couldn’t stand the Kennedys.

Frank O’Donnell:
Ted Kennedy was a long-time opponent of Rupert Murdoch, and one celebrated occasion we were ordered to run a long, uncut piece from A Current Affair that was rehashing the whole matter of Chappaquiddick. It had zero news value; we were told “you have to run this thing uncut”. You could not even edit it down and just run a snippet of it. I think they evolved, in later years, especially after Roger Ailes took over and really got the Fox News Channel up and running, into a far more sophisticated operation.

Clara Frenk, Former Fox News Producer:
I’d been warned by a number of people who pulled me aside and said look, you know, I know that you want to work and I know you need a job, but you might want to think twice about taking this job, because really it is a very Conservative news network.



Remember those remarks about "repeated and repeated"? Here are some examples from Fox News:

Quote:

Hannity: 263 days until you get to cast your vote and decide George Bush deserves a second term.

Hannity: 217 days and counting until George Bush is re-elected.
_________________

(Overlay: “Big Story: The French Connection”)
There are some who think John Kerry looks French...
John Kerry looks French...
Kerry, the man who would be America’s first French President...
When you’re at war, you have two models, the Churchill, Reagan, Thatcher, Tony Blair, George Bush model, or you have the McGovern, Jimmy Carter, French John Kerry model...
Good afternoon everybody, or as John Kerry would say, bonjour...
French are thinkers, and that doesn’t go into the American Presidency, I mean they think and they think and they think, and they never do anything with their thinking. I believe Mr. Kerry has to get away from this image...
______________

Jeff Cohen; Former MSNBC/Fox News Contributor:
Every week, there are so many different ways you can play the economic story. At Fox News, it’s only the upbeat. They select statistics that prove the economy is moving up, and thank God for President Bush for doig it.

(overlay: President Bush and 2 million Jobs!)
Murdoch: We’re all amazed at the strength of the economy and how it’s picking up day by day...
The economy is very, very strong right now, and it continues to get stronger...
(overlay: Job Picture Should Brighten Before Long)
The latest reading on the nations gross domestic product confirming it rose at a healthy 4.1...
And existing homes up 2%...
The economy is behaving like it’s on steroids at the moment...
...the fact that the economy is improving...
...low roar in ’04 and every sign indicates...
______________

Hannity: "204 days until George Bush is re-elected"
______________

(overlay: Free Trade Creates American Jobs)
Bush: We’re creating jobs, good, high-paying jobs for the American citizens...
(Text of Fox Memo: The President goes to Charlotte to talk about job training. Buoyed by the 300K job figure last week, he can boast his policy is working.)
The economy grew last month at the fastest rate in four years...
(overlay: Labor Relief!)
...with the news this month the economy grew, 408 thousand jobs were created last month, they’re drinking the Malox out of the gallon bucket at the Kerry campaign...
(overlay: Kerry: Jobs Killer?)
What this plan will do is punish successful companies, and that’s bad...
If you want to destroy jobs in this country, you raise taxes.
(overlay: John Kerry: Disaster for the Stock Market?)
John Kerry is planning to bring millions of jobs back to America. Well, someone says watch out, Kerry’s plan will end up killing more jobs instead.
(overlay: Stock Smarts—Tax the Rich?)
I said previously that the market was neutral on John Kerry. I think that was utterly wrong, I think the market is DOWN on John Kerry.
When the market goes down, one of the things you often hear is the market is worried about a Kerry victory.
...out comes a poll showing Kerry has a 4-5 point lead; down goes the market, big time.
_______________

Hannity: 196 Day until we re-elect George W. Bush
_______________

David Burnett, Former Fox News Reporter, Washington DC:
The thing I think that distresses me more than anything else is that a lot of the news content is not coming straight out of the news room, but out of the promotion department.

Bob McChesney, Author of “The Problem of the Media”:
When you let a small number of companies have this much concentrated power, they will always abuse it. It’s simply unacceptable in a free society. And if you don’t change the system, we’ll be having this conversation in the next fifty years and be talking about Rupert Murdoch III

John Nichols, Author of “Dick: The Man Who is President”:
When you have one network that is so powerful and so intent upon warping the dialog, it limits that discourse, it actually limits it to be a narrower discourse, and I think that’s what citizens ought to be up in arms about. We can’t accept this anymore. If we do accept it, we are hanging on to our children and grandchildren a lesser democracy than we inherited, and that’s the one thing we don’t have a right to do.

My work here is done for the day...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:42 PM

NIKI2

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Nobody's interested, eh? What happened to all the Fox afficianados who consider it the most trusted, fair and balanced, etc.? Nothing? Where are they all?


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:29 PM

TRAVELER


Hello Niki2:

It is hard to have a straight forward discussion about insanity.




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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:39 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Niki, I *will* pencil in some time to get to this in more detail. Promise.






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Thursday, April 1, 2010 7:35 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, Traveler, I agree...couldn't watch the whole clip. Haven't had breakfast yet. But Beck isn't a fair representation of FauxNews...he IS totally insane; I think a lot of the others (especially O'Reilly) do and say what they do because they fit Murdoch's plan and it gains them ratings.

Beck, however: he's certifiable. And not too bright, to boot.

Mike; don't bother...check on Netflix and watch them in their own words--if you can handle it! I couldn't handle more than what I transcribed...that took long enough and made me sick to my stomach enough!


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Niki, don't say "don't bother" - you went to a lot of trouble to transcribe that, and I think it's worth the time to read. I probably WON'T rent the documentary, because I'm sure it will confirm what I already know, and just make me angrier. And you wouldn't like me when I'm angrier. :)


Yup, chilling stuff. Can't say I'm a bit surprised, though. And they lay it all out, EXACTLY how they're going to propagandize their viewers - and their viewers will claim, "No they haven't! We're not propagandized! They really are the best!"

It would be funny, if it weren't so sad.




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:20 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I said I would transcribe some of what's on the video "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism". Well, I took the time to transcribe the first few minutes and the last few minutes. It is made up mostly of quotes, both of former Fox News employees and quotes directly from Fox NEWS (remember that: Fox NEWS, not just commentators). If you take the time to read it, I dare you to tell me Fox is all about "fair and balanced":

Quote:

David Brock, CEO/Media Matters for America:

People are faced with critical choices about the future of the country when they go into the voting booth. I go in, and I have been, through the course of the campaign cycle, subject to false, distorted caricaturing, and I may not even know where it’s coming from because often there’s an echo effect off places like cable and radio and those wrong pieces of information are repeated and repeated; by the time it reaches me I don’t even know what the source was. This is the environment and it’s fundamentally undermining democracy, which is based on knowing some good and solid information so I can make an informed choice.

Murdoch’s reach:
US Network: 280 million people
Asia Satellite Network: 300 million people
Cable Channels: 300 million homes
Magazines: 28 million people
Total: 4.7 billion people (3/4 of world's population)

Gene Kimmelman; Senior Director of the Public Policy & Advocacy Consumers Union:
When you see the properties Rupert Murdoch owns around the world, the strong conservative view those properties reflect, it’s different than ABC or CBS or NBC. Sure, they reflect a point of view, but not nearly as strong and not nearly as consistently from one ideological perspective.

Larry Johnson; Former Fox News Contributor:
It was made very clear to us that we were being monitored, and if someone wasn’t doing it live, they were at least recording it and they would review it after the fact to see what we did

I’ve heard former employees, as well as bookers, express reservations, almost as if they’re being monitored by a Stalinist system, afraid to be seen talking to the wrong person or having the wrong kind of e-mail exchange

Diana Winthrop; Former Fox News Producer:
It was clear during those years that Murdoch, who had absolutely adored Ronald Reagan, adored him, had a lt of admiration for the group of Republicans who controlled Congress, and certainly on Capitol Hill.

Frank O’Donnell, Former Fox News Producer, Washington DC:
We received an order from one of Murdoch’s apparatchiks, if you will, that we should cut away from our newscasts and start carrying a fawning tribute to Ronald Reagan that was airing at the Republican Convention. We were stunned, because up until that point we were allowed to do legitimate news, and suddenly we were ordered from the top to start carrying propaganda, carrying Republican right-wing propaganda

Diana Winthrop:
There was a cultural underpinning to what Murdoch wanted: race issues, AIDS—I constantly remember complaints that there was too much being done on AIDS. He also couldn’t stand the Kennedys.

Frank O’Donnell:
Ted Kennedy was a long-time opponent of Rupert Murdoch, and one celebrated occasion we were ordered to run a long, uncut piece from A Current Affair that was rehashing the whole matter of Chappaquiddick. It had zero news value; we were told “you have to run this thing uncut”. You could not even edit it down and just run a snippet of it. I think they evolved, in later years, especially after Roger Ailes took over and really got the Fox News Channel up and running, into a far more sophisticated operation.

Clara Frenk, Former Fox News Producer:
I’d been warned by a number of people who pulled me aside and said look, you know, I know that you want to work and I know you need a job, but you might want to think twice about taking this job, because really it is a very Conservative news network.



Remember those remarks about "repeated and repeated"? Here are some examples from Fox News:

Quote:

Hannity: 263 days until you get to cast your vote and decide George Bush deserves a second term.

Hannity: 217 days and counting until George Bush is re-elected.
_________________

(Overlay: “Big Story: The French Connection”)
There are some who think John Kerry looks French...
John Kerry looks French...
Kerry, the man who would be America’s first French President...
When you’re at war, you have two models, the Churchill, Reagan, Thatcher, Tony Blair, George Bush model, or you have the McGovern, Jimmy Carter, French John Kerry model...
Good afternoon everybody, or as John Kerry would say, bonjour...
French are thinkers, and that doesn’t go into the American Presidency, I mean they think and they think and they think, and they never do anything with their thinking. I believe Mr. Kerry has to get away from this image...
______________

Jeff Cohen; Former MSNBC/Fox News Contributor:
Every week, there are so many different ways you can play the economic story. At Fox News, it’s only the upbeat. They select statistics that prove the economy is moving up, and thank God for President Bush for doig it.

(overlay: President Bush and 2 million Jobs!)
Murdoch: We’re all amazed at the strength of the economy and how it’s picking up day by day...
The economy is very, very strong right now, and it continues to get stronger...
(overlay: Job Picture Should Brighten Before Long)
The latest reading on the nations gross domestic product confirming it rose at a healthy 4.1...
And existing homes up 2%...
The economy is behaving like it’s on steroids at the moment...
...the fact that the economy is improving...
...low roar in ’04 and every sign indicates...
______________

Hannity: "204 days until George Bush is re-elected"
______________

(overlay: Free Trade Creates American Jobs)
Bush: We’re creating jobs, good, high-paying jobs for the American citizens...
(Text of Fox Memo: The President goes to Charlotte to talk about job training. Buoyed by the 300K job figure last week, he can boast his policy is working.)
The economy grew last month at the fastest rate in four years...
(overlay: Labor Relief!)
...with the news this month the economy grew, 408 thousand jobs were created last month, they’re drinking the Malox out of the gallon bucket at the Kerry campaign...
(overlay: Kerry: Jobs Killer?)
What this plan will do is punish successful companies, and that’s bad...
If you want to destroy jobs in this country, you raise taxes.
(overlay: John Kerry: Disaster for the Stock Market?)
John Kerry is planning to bring millions of jobs back to America. Well, someone says watch out, Kerry’s plan will end up killing more jobs instead.
(overlay: Stock Smarts—Tax the Rich?)
I said previously that the market was neutral on John Kerry. I think that was utterly wrong, I think the market is DOWN on John Kerry.
When the market goes down, one of the things you often hear is the market is worried about a Kerry victory.
...out comes a poll showing Kerry has a 4-5 point lead; down goes the market, big time.
_______________

Hannity: 196 Day until we re-elect George W. Bush
_______________

David Burnett, Former Fox News Reporter, Washington DC:
The thing I think that distresses me more than anything else is that a lot of the news content is not coming straight out of the news room, but out of the promotion department.

Bob McChesney, Author of “The Problem of the Media”:
When you let a small number of companies have this much concentrated power, they will always abuse it. It’s simply unacceptable in a free society. And if you don’t change the system, we’ll be having this conversation in the next fifty years and be talking about Rupert Murdoch III

John Nichols, Author of “Dick: The Man Who is President”:
When you have one network that is so powerful and so intent upon warping the dialog, it limits that discourse, it actually limits it to be a narrower discourse, and I think that’s what citizens ought to be up in arms about. We can’t accept this anymore. If we do accept it, we are hanging on to our children and grandchildren a lesser democracy than we inherited, and that’s the one thing we don’t have a right to do.

My work here is done for the day...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

I'm back! Had to raise some $ to get my P.C. fixed. I'm glad that the succses to FOX News and the God awful rating of MSNBC and CNN are causing you pinkos great pain! I wish Keith Olbermann herpes!

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:21 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I said I would transcribe some of what's on the video "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism". Well, I took the time to transcribe the first few minutes and the last few minutes. It is made up mostly of quotes, both of former Fox News employees and quotes directly from Fox NEWS (remember that: Fox NEWS, not just commentators). If you take the time to read it, I dare you to tell me Fox is all about "fair and balanced":

Quote:

David Brock, CEO/Media Matters for America:

People are faced with critical choices about the future of the country when they go into the voting booth. I go in, and I have been, through the course of the campaign cycle, subject to false, distorted caricaturing, and I may not even know where it’s coming from because often there’s an echo effect off places like cable and radio and those wrong pieces of information are repeated and repeated; by the time it reaches me I don’t even know what the source was. This is the environment and it’s fundamentally undermining democracy, which is based on knowing some good and solid information so I can make an informed choice.

Murdoch’s reach:
US Network: 280 million people
Asia Satellite Network: 300 million people
Cable Channels: 300 million homes
Magazines: 28 million people
Total: 4.7 billion people (3/4 of world's population)

Gene Kimmelman; Senior Director of the Public Policy & Advocacy Consumers Union:
When you see the properties Rupert Murdoch owns around the world, the strong conservative view those properties reflect, it’s different than ABC or CBS or NBC. Sure, they reflect a point of view, but not nearly as strong and not nearly as consistently from one ideological perspective.

Larry Johnson; Former Fox News Contributor:
It was made very clear to us that we were being monitored, and if someone wasn’t doing it live, they were at least recording it and they would review it after the fact to see what we did

I’ve heard former employees, as well as bookers, express reservations, almost as if they’re being monitored by a Stalinist system, afraid to be seen talking to the wrong person or having the wrong kind of e-mail exchange

Diana Winthrop; Former Fox News Producer:
It was clear during those years that Murdoch, who had absolutely adored Ronald Reagan, adored him, had a lt of admiration for the group of Republicans who controlled Congress, and certainly on Capitol Hill.

Frank O’Donnell, Former Fox News Producer, Washington DC:
We received an order from one of Murdoch’s apparatchiks, if you will, that we should cut away from our newscasts and start carrying a fawning tribute to Ronald Reagan that was airing at the Republican Convention. We were stunned, because up until that point we were allowed to do legitimate news, and suddenly we were ordered from the top to start carrying propaganda, carrying Republican right-wing propaganda

Diana Winthrop:
There was a cultural underpinning to what Murdoch wanted: race issues, AIDS—I constantly remember complaints that there was too much being done on AIDS. He also couldn’t stand the Kennedys.

Frank O’Donnell:
Ted Kennedy was a long-time opponent of Rupert Murdoch, and one celebrated occasion we were ordered to run a long, uncut piece from A Current Affair that was rehashing the whole matter of Chappaquiddick. It had zero news value; we were told “you have to run this thing uncut”. You could not even edit it down and just run a snippet of it. I think they evolved, in later years, especially after Roger Ailes took over and really got the Fox News Channel up and running, into a far more sophisticated operation.

Clara Frenk, Former Fox News Producer:
I’d been warned by a number of people who pulled me aside and said look, you know, I know that you want to work and I know you need a job, but you might want to think twice about taking this job, because really it is a very Conservative news network.



Remember those remarks about "repeated and repeated"? Here are some examples from Fox News:

Quote:

Hannity: 263 days until you get to cast your vote and decide George Bush deserves a second term.

Hannity: 217 days and counting until George Bush is re-elected.
_________________

(Overlay: “Big Story: The French Connection”)
There are some who think John Kerry looks French...
John Kerry looks French...
Kerry, the man who would be America’s first French President...
When you’re at war, you have two models, the Churchill, Reagan, Thatcher, Tony Blair, George Bush model, or you have the McGovern, Jimmy Carter, French John Kerry model...
Good afternoon everybody, or as John Kerry would say, bonjour...
French are thinkers, and that doesn’t go into the American Presidency, I mean they think and they think and they think, and they never do anything with their thinking. I believe Mr. Kerry has to get away from this image...
______________

Jeff Cohen; Former MSNBC/Fox News Contributor:
Every week, there are so many different ways you can play the economic story. At Fox News, it’s only the upbeat. They select statistics that prove the economy is moving up, and thank God for President Bush for doig it.

(overlay: President Bush and 2 million Jobs!)
Murdoch: We’re all amazed at the strength of the economy and how it’s picking up day by day...
The economy is very, very strong right now, and it continues to get stronger...
(overlay: Job Picture Should Brighten Before Long)
The latest reading on the nations gross domestic product confirming it rose at a healthy 4.1...
And existing homes up 2%...
The economy is behaving like it’s on steroids at the moment...
...the fact that the economy is improving...
...low roar in ’04 and every sign indicates...
______________

Hannity: "204 days until George Bush is re-elected"
______________

(overlay: Free Trade Creates American Jobs)
Bush: We’re creating jobs, good, high-paying jobs for the American citizens...
(Text of Fox Memo: The President goes to Charlotte to talk about job training. Buoyed by the 300K job figure last week, he can boast his policy is working.)
The economy grew last month at the fastest rate in four years...
(overlay: Labor Relief!)
...with the news this month the economy grew, 408 thousand jobs were created last month, they’re drinking the Malox out of the gallon bucket at the Kerry campaign...
(overlay: Kerry: Jobs Killer?)
What this plan will do is punish successful companies, and that’s bad...
If you want to destroy jobs in this country, you raise taxes.
(overlay: John Kerry: Disaster for the Stock Market?)
John Kerry is planning to bring millions of jobs back to America. Well, someone says watch out, Kerry’s plan will end up killing more jobs instead.
(overlay: Stock Smarts—Tax the Rich?)
I said previously that the market was neutral on John Kerry. I think that was utterly wrong, I think the market is DOWN on John Kerry.
When the market goes down, one of the things you often hear is the market is worried about a Kerry victory.
...out comes a poll showing Kerry has a 4-5 point lead; down goes the market, big time.
_______________

Hannity: 196 Day until we re-elect George W. Bush
_______________

David Burnett, Former Fox News Reporter, Washington DC:
The thing I think that distresses me more than anything else is that a lot of the news content is not coming straight out of the news room, but out of the promotion department.

Bob McChesney, Author of “The Problem of the Media”:
When you let a small number of companies have this much concentrated power, they will always abuse it. It’s simply unacceptable in a free society. And if you don’t change the system, we’ll be having this conversation in the next fifty years and be talking about Rupert Murdoch III

John Nichols, Author of “Dick: The Man Who is President”:
When you have one network that is so powerful and so intent upon warping the dialog, it limits that discourse, it actually limits it to be a narrower discourse, and I think that’s what citizens ought to be up in arms about. We can’t accept this anymore. If we do accept it, we are hanging on to our children and grandchildren a lesser democracy than we inherited, and that’s the one thing we don’t have a right to do.

My work here is done for the day...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

I'm back! Had to raise some $ to get my P.C. fixed. I'm glad that the succses to FOX News and the God awful rating of MSNBC and CNN are causing you pinkos great pain! I wish Keith Olbermann herpes!

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:21 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I said I would transcribe some of what's on the video "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism". Well, I took the time to transcribe the first few minutes and the last few minutes. It is made up mostly of quotes, both of former Fox News employees and quotes directly from Fox NEWS (remember that: Fox NEWS, not just commentators). If you take the time to read it, I dare you to tell me Fox is all about "fair and balanced":

Quote:

David Brock, CEO/Media Matters for America:

People are faced with critical choices about the future of the country when they go into the voting booth. I go in, and I have been, through the course of the campaign cycle, subject to false, distorted caricaturing, and I may not even know where it’s coming from because often there’s an echo effect off places like cable and radio and those wrong pieces of information are repeated and repeated; by the time it reaches me I don’t even know what the source was. This is the environment and it’s fundamentally undermining democracy, which is based on knowing some good and solid information so I can make an informed choice.

Murdoch’s reach:
US Network: 280 million people
Asia Satellite Network: 300 million people
Cable Channels: 300 million homes
Magazines: 28 million people
Total: 4.7 billion people (3/4 of world's population)

Gene Kimmelman; Senior Director of the Public Policy & Advocacy Consumers Union:
When you see the properties Rupert Murdoch owns around the world, the strong conservative view those properties reflect, it’s different than ABC or CBS or NBC. Sure, they reflect a point of view, but not nearly as strong and not nearly as consistently from one ideological perspective.

Larry Johnson; Former Fox News Contributor:
It was made very clear to us that we were being monitored, and if someone wasn’t doing it live, they were at least recording it and they would review it after the fact to see what we did

I’ve heard former employees, as well as bookers, express reservations, almost as if they’re being monitored by a Stalinist system, afraid to be seen talking to the wrong person or having the wrong kind of e-mail exchange

Diana Winthrop; Former Fox News Producer:
It was clear during those years that Murdoch, who had absolutely adored Ronald Reagan, adored him, had a lt of admiration for the group of Republicans who controlled Congress, and certainly on Capitol Hill.

Frank O’Donnell, Former Fox News Producer, Washington DC:
We received an order from one of Murdoch’s apparatchiks, if you will, that we should cut away from our newscasts and start carrying a fawning tribute to Ronald Reagan that was airing at the Republican Convention. We were stunned, because up until that point we were allowed to do legitimate news, and suddenly we were ordered from the top to start carrying propaganda, carrying Republican right-wing propaganda

Diana Winthrop:
There was a cultural underpinning to what Murdoch wanted: race issues, AIDS—I constantly remember complaints that there was too much being done on AIDS. He also couldn’t stand the Kennedys.

Frank O’Donnell:
Ted Kennedy was a long-time opponent of Rupert Murdoch, and one celebrated occasion we were ordered to run a long, uncut piece from A Current Affair that was rehashing the whole matter of Chappaquiddick. It had zero news value; we were told “you have to run this thing uncut”. You could not even edit it down and just run a snippet of it. I think they evolved, in later years, especially after Roger Ailes took over and really got the Fox News Channel up and running, into a far more sophisticated operation.

Clara Frenk, Former Fox News Producer:
I’d been warned by a number of people who pulled me aside and said look, you know, I know that you want to work and I know you need a job, but you might want to think twice about taking this job, because really it is a very Conservative news network.



Remember those remarks about "repeated and repeated"? Here are some examples from Fox News:

Quote:

Hannity: 263 days until you get to cast your vote and decide George Bush deserves a second term.

Hannity: 217 days and counting until George Bush is re-elected.
_________________

(Overlay: “Big Story: The French Connection”)
There are some who think John Kerry looks French...
John Kerry looks French...
Kerry, the man who would be America’s first French President...
When you’re at war, you have two models, the Churchill, Reagan, Thatcher, Tony Blair, George Bush model, or you have the McGovern, Jimmy Carter, French John Kerry model...
Good afternoon everybody, or as John Kerry would say, bonjour...
French are thinkers, and that doesn’t go into the American Presidency, I mean they think and they think and they think, and they never do anything with their thinking. I believe Mr. Kerry has to get away from this image...
______________

Jeff Cohen; Former MSNBC/Fox News Contributor:
Every week, there are so many different ways you can play the economic story. At Fox News, it’s only the upbeat. They select statistics that prove the economy is moving up, and thank God for President Bush for doig it.

(overlay: President Bush and 2 million Jobs!)
Murdoch: We’re all amazed at the strength of the economy and how it’s picking up day by day...
The economy is very, very strong right now, and it continues to get stronger...
(overlay: Job Picture Should Brighten Before Long)
The latest reading on the nations gross domestic product confirming it rose at a healthy 4.1...
And existing homes up 2%...
The economy is behaving like it’s on steroids at the moment...
...the fact that the economy is improving...
...low roar in ’04 and every sign indicates...
______________

Hannity: "204 days until George Bush is re-elected"
______________

(overlay: Free Trade Creates American Jobs)
Bush: We’re creating jobs, good, high-paying jobs for the American citizens...
(Text of Fox Memo: The President goes to Charlotte to talk about job training. Buoyed by the 300K job figure last week, he can boast his policy is working.)
The economy grew last month at the fastest rate in four years...
(overlay: Labor Relief!)
...with the news this month the economy grew, 408 thousand jobs were created last month, they’re drinking the Malox out of the gallon bucket at the Kerry campaign...
(overlay: Kerry: Jobs Killer?)
What this plan will do is punish successful companies, and that’s bad...
If you want to destroy jobs in this country, you raise taxes.
(overlay: John Kerry: Disaster for the Stock Market?)
John Kerry is planning to bring millions of jobs back to America. Well, someone says watch out, Kerry’s plan will end up killing more jobs instead.
(overlay: Stock Smarts—Tax the Rich?)
I said previously that the market was neutral on John Kerry. I think that was utterly wrong, I think the market is DOWN on John Kerry.
When the market goes down, one of the things you often hear is the market is worried about a Kerry victory.
...out comes a poll showing Kerry has a 4-5 point lead; down goes the market, big time.
_______________

Hannity: 196 Day until we re-elect George W. Bush
_______________

David Burnett, Former Fox News Reporter, Washington DC:
The thing I think that distresses me more than anything else is that a lot of the news content is not coming straight out of the news room, but out of the promotion department.

Bob McChesney, Author of “The Problem of the Media”:
When you let a small number of companies have this much concentrated power, they will always abuse it. It’s simply unacceptable in a free society. And if you don’t change the system, we’ll be having this conversation in the next fifty years and be talking about Rupert Murdoch III

John Nichols, Author of “Dick: The Man Who is President”:
When you have one network that is so powerful and so intent upon warping the dialog, it limits that discourse, it actually limits it to be a narrower discourse, and I think that’s what citizens ought to be up in arms about. We can’t accept this anymore. If we do accept it, we are hanging on to our children and grandchildren a lesser democracy than we inherited, and that’s the one thing we don’t have a right to do.

My work here is done for the day...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

I'm back! Had to raise some $ to get my P.C. fixed. I'm glad that the succses to FOX News and the God awful rating of MSNBC and CNN are causing you pinkos great pain! I wish Keith Olbermann herpes!

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Hey, everybody - WhoZit's back. And back. And back. :)




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:29 PM

WHOZIT


I'm glad the succses of FOX News is driving you nutz, I LAFF AT YOUR PAIN.....AHHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!........funny pinkos

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:39 PM

STORYMARK


Wow, I guess Rappy's got an ally on his intellectual level again.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:40 PM

STORYMARK


Niki - Interesting, scary stuff. I've had that movie in my queue forever, must get around to watching the whole thing.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:54 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I'm glad the succses of FOX News is driving you nutz, I LAFF AT YOUR PAIN.....AHHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!........funny pinkos




To paraphrase Rappy:

"This is what passes for 'rational', 'mature' and 'sensible' thought from the Right, here at FFF.Net.

Wow."

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:01 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Hey, everybody - WhoZit's back. And back. And back. :)




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


I finnaly got my PC fixed and am working out the bugs, as for the succses of FOX News, I hope this means Keith Olbermann's days are numbered.......on this planet

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:15 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Whozit got his computer fixed. Too bad there's an idiot operating it.

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:15 PM

STORYMARK


I had forgotten how really, really stupid you strive to be, bagel boy.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:20 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
I had forgotten how really, really stupid you strive to be, bagel boy.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

From now on when I'm fucking a bagel, I'll think of you 2

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Friday, April 2, 2010 5:14 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Interesting Niki, I usually take polemic/agenda documentaries like these with a pinch of salt (fahrenheit 911, global warming swindle, zeitgeist), but this one should I hope shine some light on an interesting and murky area.

Also, I think it's here on youtube:



Heads should roll

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Friday, April 2, 2010 6:11 AM

MAL4PREZ


A co-worker lent me this DVD around the time of the 2004 elections. Before that, I had never watched any of the news channels because I thought they were just boring. I started paying more attention after seeing this!

Especially disturbing in later parts of this documentary is bits of Bill O'Reilly. They show an interview with a kid who lost his dad on 9/11, which was horrifyingly disrespectful enough, then a few months later Bill referred back to that interview and blatantly, unashamedly lied about what the kid had said.

Shocking. Not shocking to me anymore, but at the time I couldn't believe this was happening on a news channel. Lesson being: Faux is not news.


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hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left

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Friday, April 2, 2010 6:29 AM

RIVERLOVE


Everyone loves and is grateful for Fox News. That's why they're #1.

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Friday, April 2, 2010 7:02 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Title Changed by RiverLove: Another Fox News Obsession Thread



So you're a 2 year-old now? Wasn't it you who was bashing people for changing thread titles? And here you are, doing it yourself, while calling others immature for doing what you're doing. Funny, that.




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Friday, April 2, 2010 7:23 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Hee, hee, hee...what you right-wing idjits miss is that the majority of Americans are mentally lazy and don't think for themselves or question (which is how we got Dumbya--twice!), so FauxNews is easy to digest and gives them stuff they can swallow whole. Only the relatively fewer people who actually THINK want to be challenged by MSNBC and CNN.

That's okay, tho'; you go ahead and enjoy your pablum; I'm sure the reasons behind their ideology and the fake news they spew has no meaning to you. The fact that you’re not enraged by how stupid they think you are and by the dictatorship that determines the content is all that needs to be said. It’s obvious you didn’t bother to read the text or watch the YouTube snippet, and I’m sure you won’t get the video...it might ruin all your preconceptions, gawd forbid! Although you’d no doubt dismiss it; the blind ideologs dismiss anything that doesn’t fit their narrow mentality, it’s too frightening.

It fits, tho’, doesn’t it? The group here who are FauxNews aficionados show in their viewing choices precisely what they do here—no facts to back up, just instinctive beliefs which, when challenged, degrade into defensive attacks, because they have no real sources or facts to present. FoxNoise is a perfect fit for them; no thinking, just swallow, swallow, swallow.

To the adults here: Yep, pretty shocking stuff...shows just how far news has actually become "newstainment", and yes, it would be funny if it weren't so sad. The fact that the interviews were with real people who really worked for ClusterFox is the saddest part; I hope good reporters and producers like them were snatched up when they couldn’t take it any more and left...we need more of those! We don’t have enough on the MSM; FoxNoise is just the worst example, but it’s been headed that way for a long time.

I don't blame you, Mike...I could only make it through what I transcribed, as I said; I hadn't had breakfast yet and was afraid I'd hurl if I went any further. I can’t recommend you watch it, Story...it might ruin your appetite too, and what I posted is enough to give you a taste of the rest!

Who the hell is this Whozit, that it so desperately needs attention it will triple post? We have another hot wind blowing, I assume? Hey, Sig...I think a strong enough hot breeze might be able to push keys, don’t you think this is proof? As to the concept that it drives us nutz, Not hardly; we merely pity you for gulping down the pap. We know the reasons, so we can only be sad for you. I guess we should actually be grateful you don't question any of it; you might actually be a force to be reckoned with if you did.

Yup, KPO, that’s a snippet from it. Luckily it’s only a snippet, so hopefully it won’t make too many people ill; the whole thing is an hour long; maybe someday I’ll get the guts (SETTLED guts) to watch the whole thing...or not. I think what I saw was pretty clear, tho’ I’d like to see that the O’Reilly section.

Naw, Mal, nothing they do is able to shock—or even anger—me anymore. I accept that all countries have blatant propaganda, it’s not surprising we’ve got our share. All it does is leaves me sad, because the people who watch it never get a chance to think for themselves or question the pap they’re fed, so they vote against their own self-interest. But that’s neither here nor there, as I said, the bulk of Americans (and probably people everywhere) WANT to be led around by their noses; they’re focused on their daily lives and don’t have the energy or inclination to want to know the facts.

Ahhh, River; about what I expected. Where’s Wulf, he ought to be right in there with you singing their praises. Actually, the fact that they’re #1 and people actually believe they are “fair and balanced”, as I said above, shows just how willingly blind the majority is; that they can’t recognize propaganda when they hear and see it fits perfectly with the mentality. Enjoy; you guys’ brains would probably bust if you had to take in too many facts and too much reality. Like all the rest, I’m sad for you, too, but have no expectations of you opening your eyes. Bet you think there are death panels and the government is gonna kill grandma, too...poor deluded babies.

Olbermann's not going anywhere, and you better stay away from Maddow, your two brain cells might explode if you were faced with journalists who presented the FACTS. You couldn't process them.



"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Friday, April 2, 2010 7:26 AM

RIVERLOVE


Everyone loves and is grateful for Fox News. That's why they're #1. Smart people know that. Pinheads like you "rationalize" as to why, but will never understand.

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Friday, April 2, 2010 7:30 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Of course, that would mean that everyone loves and is grateful for the New York Yankees, Michael Jackson, and Avatar as well, as they've all been Number One in their fields, so they MUST be the absolute best!




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Friday, April 2, 2010 7:32 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oh, and Obama is clearly the best presidential choice, or he couldn't have won. Democrats have the presidency, the House, and the Senate, so you must be saying that we're the most loved and we're clearly NUMBER ONE!

SCOREBOARD!

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Friday, April 2, 2010 7:39 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


River, sad baby: I doubt somehow you'll ever wake up. If a tyrannical dictatorship filled with propaganda is what you believe "thinking people" should watch, that's all that needs to be said.

I truly am sad for you, but I accept that you're happy in your circumscribed, hidebound mentality, so enjoy. If you were to ever want to know the truth (which would require reading, thinking and questioning things), you might have something worth saying. As it is, one-liner snipes are irrelevant in the face of the facts, so go right ahead with your stubborn delusions; they define you, more's the pity.




"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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