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Cleaning turtles

POSTED BY: CATPIRATE
UPDATED: Sunday, May 16, 2010 07:24
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Saturday, May 15, 2010 10:04 PM

CATPIRATE


I have family in the gulf area. They went through Katrina. Now they are preparing for this. Well they are learning how to clean turtles. I am pretty impressed with sis. Over the years she has been a survivor. Her family has done well since Katrina. The bail out went to LA and not alot to Mississippi. I have other family who lost everything and started over somewhere else. The anger was misplaced because they survived. But now he gets it. You know 911, Katrina, and now a real enviromental disaster. Let's hope the O gets it and doesn't fail as did Bush. Will see.


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Sunday, May 16, 2010 2:02 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Do you think there should be a massive federal response and massive government spending in the effort to stop, slow, and clean up the spill and give aid and relief to those affected?

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Sunday, May 16, 2010 2:51 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by CatPirate: Let's hope the O gets it and doesn't fail as did Bush. Will see.





Bush, Obama, it doesn't matter. When it comes to how the Federal Gov't operates, folks delude themselves into thinking it makes a difference as to who is in the White House.






Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Sunday, May 16, 2010 4:04 AM

WHOZIT


When is this huge disaster going to happen? I've been waitting for pics of oil covered birds for days now. So far there hasn't been enough oil hitting the beaches for Al Shaptons hair doo.

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Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:16 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


If I were to bother replying to Whatsit, I would say more than "just wait". But I don't.

Nonetheless, here’s some stuff for the rest of you; it’s already happening, and there are reason they haven’t seen the bulk of them yet:
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“Many will likely die unseen far out in the Gulf. For instance, in the Exxon Valdez spill, it was estimated that assistance and rescue staff only saw about one of every ten birds affected”, American Bird Conservancy President George Fenwick cautioned.

“Further, what is difficult to measure is the loss of future generations of birds when birds fail to lay eggs or when eggs fail to hatch. Many of the birds are incubating eggs right now, and we know that even small amounts of oil on the parent’s feathers will kill the young,” he said.

“And bird prey bases are also impacted. The very fisheries that sustain the economy of the region also sustain the seabirds along the coast. The impacts to fish stocks may have substantial, long-lasting effects on seabird,” he said.



You want oiled birds specifically from the Gulf spill?










Want more?
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We continue to send out our search and collection teams in search of oiled birds. They attempted capture on a few oiled brown pelicans yesterday but the birds were flighted and strong.
http://intbirdrescue.blogspot.com/2010/05/day-11-gulf-spill-oiled-bird
-care.html


They’ve taken in brown pelicans (who we treasure around here...if you’ve ever seen one skimming the waves...), and I gotta share a poem about them:

A rare old bird is the pelican;
His bill holds more than his belican.
He can take in his beak
Enough food for a week;
I’m darned if I know how the helican.
- Dixon Merritt

Also, Figatebirds, Green Herons (which really breaks my heart as they’re seldom seen here), gulls, gannets (tho’ thank gawd, most of them have migrated, it’s only the young who are dying, if one can be thankful for that...), from as far away as Alabama and even Florida. Unfortunately, it's also breeding season for many other species.

Omygawd; in looking stuff up, I just saw that the International Bird Rescue and Rehabilitation Center (IBRRC) spokesman was Jay Holcomb!! I WORKED with him when he headed up Marin Wildcare...what a gas! That’s a HUGE organization!

Many rescue groups have converged to help, including International Bird Rescue (the biggest), Tri-State Bird Recue, Louisiana Rescue Center, Wildlife Response Services, Charleston Center for Bird Rescue, American Bird Conservatory (of course), and many others...including at least two Orange County experts on standby to fly to the gulf if their help is needed, and experts from UC Davis. Other groups from CA are already there.

Other species affect include the turtles Cat’s family is helping with, bluefin tuna, sea turtles, dolphins, sperm whales, oyster, mussel, shrimp and sharks. Once it comes ashore seriously, even otters (who eat muscles), bobcat and mink will be endangered, as well as other prey animals who may eat damaged fish, etc. All in all, 400 or so species are threatened.
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"We know, in this area right now, that there are sperm whales. There are dolphins right in the oil slick".

If an oil spill is small enough, animals can leave the area. "Some of them can get away," Bossart said. "It's totally dependent on the size of the slick, and this is huge."

Exposure to the oil for a prolonged period of time can result in a toxic effect on the skin, and mammals can suffer lung damage or death after breathing it in.

"The brown pelican's (Louisiana's state bird) breeding season just began, according to the Initiative, and "many pairs are already incubating eggs."

More than 800 brown pelicans died when a smaller oil spill hit Louisiana's Breton Island National Wildlife Refuge a few years ago, MacKenzie said.

Species of beach-nesting terns and gulls, beach-nesting shorebirds, large wading birds, marsh birds and ocean-dwelling birds are also at risk, along with migratory shorebirds and songbirds.

"When the oil starts to settle, it'll smother the oyster beds. It'll kill the oysters," he said.



If you’re interested back on May 2, the first bird came in, and they’re preparing for more:



And, if you can take it, here’s a taste of what’s to come:


“This video is dedicated to those who work so hard to save these birds.” – and your family, Cat.

Want to see it in action?



This is what we suffered from a spill in SF Bay. I wasn’t part of this, they already had enough volunteers (we mobilize FAST), just helped clean up some of the beaches and worked with boat owners to clean it off their boats. This one isn’t bad, and a LOT were saved. But multiply this, and you know what’s coming:




"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:24 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Serious, massive kudos to your family, Cat. We need FAR more like them. I know people came from all over the country to help after Katrina, but we need far more people who care for things other than their little lives in disasters such as this.

Please give them MUCH thanx and many sincere thanx from one who can't get there.

I'm SO glad to hear they're cleaning turtles, cleanup like that can tear your heart out and it takes a pretty strong person to keep up with it for very long. I'm sure they've been trained to take care of themselves while cleaning, but you can't emphasize that enough to them, trust me!

I've mentioned before and still feel that I'd give a LOT if I could just get there. Already trained in bird cleanup, I know I could help in what's coming, and I've been glad to hear (if it's true) that so far the oil hasn't been as bad as they feared, but when I look at the size of the wildlife refuge down there, it makes me heartsick. If I could dig up the airfare, I'd make my husband care for the beasties and be there in a heartbeat.

By the way, if they don't already know, I'm sure they're using Dawn in some of the cleanup. We only discovered that when we were cleaning up our oil-covered birds from a MUCH smaller spill here in Marin many, many years ago, and it became the standard. I've bought Dawn ever since religiously. I'd LOVE to hear more about what they're doing, what methods they're using nowadays, and anything you/they care to share. Obviously it's close to my heart.

What about the aligators? And other wildlife? I know many suffered from this Winter's harsh cold, I hope against hope enough of them survive this to refurbish the popluation. Thank GAWD you don't have sea otters there!! But I'm sure there are other equally fragile critters you'll lose. My heart goes out to you.

I can't find anything on the internet about oiled turtles; are they loggerhead, the endangered diamondbacks, or some other species?

Some information on why they're worried about the diamondbacks:




"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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