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Mosque to be built at ground zero.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 2:51 PM

CATPIRATE


Have ya heard of this? Can you believe it. This is an insult, period. Bullcrap about a community center for islam. See pc for whites this would be offensive the other way around but for them no your just a bigot. Now I have always said this, they tear down something they put a mosque over it to make a statement. Remember the Buddas in Afghanastan. Now there is also a mosque in county Mayo Ire. It is the furthest mosque west in Europe. That is also where St Patrick shrines are. They did not put that there for nothing. Wake up America to what people are about. Where the minerets appear also comes poverty. Forget women's rights.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/06/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.htm
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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:00 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


"NEAR" Ground Zero. Not "AT" Ground Zero.


So you don't really go in for freedom of religion, I take it.

Hell, it would at least make that area safer - after all, have YOU ever heard of anyone flying airliners into a mosque?



Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:07 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Better a mosque than a synagogue.















Quote:

"The FBI has issued a BOLO on suspected terrorists driving a white delivery van from New York City to the Mexican border. The suspects are using Israeli passports. They are armed and dangerous."
-Knox County TN Emergency 911 Dispatch, Sept 11, 2001, 11am EST
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm

"Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center. Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals."
-FBI BOLO ("Be On Lookout"), 11 September 2001, 3:31 p.m., according to Bergen County Police Chief John Schmidig
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/WTC_Mysteries3.html
http://columbus.indymedia.org/node/13067

14 Israeli "art students" were living in World Trade Center Towers with forged Construction Passes, connection to Mossad spy ring infiltrating every US military base and police agency in USA, arrested and deported from USA after 9/11/2001:
http://www.rense.com/general87/14_1.htm
youtube.com/watch?v=edxYE9sZ5WI

"'We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq,' Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events 'swung American public opinion in our favor.'"
-Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Haaretz, Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel, 16 April 2008
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975574.html


FBI will pay you $1-million to arrest American Jewish ADL AllCIAduh spokesman Adam Gadahn Perlman

"The FBI added Adam Gadahn to the Most Wanted Terrorist list and the U.S. State Department is offering a reward up to $1 million for his arrest. A 28-year-old California man has been indicted on federal charges of treason and providing material support to a terrorist group for making a series of propaganda videotapes for al Qaeda, including one in which he praised the hijackers involved in the 9/11 attacks. 'Adam Gadahn represents a new breed of home-grown extremist, who has chosen to betray the country of his birth,' FBI Executive Assistant Director Willie Hulon said during a press conference Wednesday in Washington, D.C."
-FBI Most Wanted
http://www.fbi.gov/page2/oct2006/gadahn101106.htm

American al Qaeda member Adam Gadahn Perlman acknowledges Jewish ancestry
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/13/american.qaeda.message/index
.html


"In Sept of last year, Adam Gadahn [aka Adam Perlman], the son of Jewish parents, the son of Jewish grandparents [who are on the board of directors of Jewish ADL] in Southern California, who himself converted to Islam, went on to become Osama Bin Laden's spokesman."
-Congresswoman Jane Harman (D-CA), Jewish chairman
Homeland Security Subcommittee on Intelligence, Information Sharing, and Terrorism Risk Assessment
CSPAN, Use of the Internet by Terrorists: Using the Web as a Weapon for 9/11 Truth, November 6, 2007
http://www.piratenews.org/flight93.html



Nuke Israel. Kill all the "jews". Neutron nuke will spare the Arabs and Christians. Arrest AllCIAduh Taliban dictator Saddam Hussein Obama Bin Laden and GW Bush for treason. Under US Code, the punishment for treason is death.



Semite.
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and ARABS - b : a descendant of these peoples - 2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language.
—Merriam Webster Dictionary

"A 'Semite' is any person living in that area, including Arabs and Christians. It's time we start talking about 'The Other AntiSemitism'. A Semite is not a Jew living in America or Europe."
—Ralph Nader (Arab-American from Lebannon), Arab-American Business conference, C-SPAN, 2003

www.khazaria.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/Ashkenazim.html

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:09 PM

MINCINGBEAST


The only thing that bothers me about this is the double standard. Any chance of erecting a church, buddhist monastery, or Joo temple in say...Saudi Arabia? Absolutely not. Islam benefits from religious freedom, and demands it, but does not seem to offer it. Granted, this is a gross generalization, but there is a kernel of truth in the absence of mutuality.

Let them build a Mosque at ground zero; let me open a Scientology center in Medina.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:12 PM

MINCINGBEAST


Gay marry me, PN. At a kosher Temple.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:15 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:

The only thing that bothers me about this is the double standard. Any chance of erecting a church, buddhist monastery, or Joo temple in say...Saudi Arabia? Absolutely not.



Saudi is founded, ruled, owned and run by Joos, aka "Wahabis". Arabs HATE the Wahabis.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=saudi+royal+fa
mily+wahabi+jewish


Which is why Bush and Obama White Houses blocked 9/11 families from suing the Saudis. Joo Obama's joo Kagan helped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=saudi+royal+family+911+l
awsuit&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai
=
www.september11classaction.com




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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:16 PM

CATPIRATE


Kwicko you really are out of line on this one. If you don't get what this is. This is the problem with people like you. All the talk about how your an American, freedom of this and that, and nobody can vent unless it's you. You just showed that you are not an Amercian or understands what it is to be one. Oh it was 8 years ago. People died, lost careers and jobs, and we are still in war today. Did you know 10 real Amercians died in Afghanastan today. I know you had this attitude 8 years ago. I just really hate when people like you pretend to be an American. Don't forget to say things like American muslims or the US supplies Israel with weapons, and I can go on. You don't get it and never will.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:19 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important



Hello,

The 'double standard'does not bother me. I expect us to behave in the best fashion possible, and sometimes that may mean making better choices than other nations.

Anyone who objects to a mosque at ground zero is essentially saying that all Muslims were in on it. In that case you might as well advocate rounding them all up into prisons. That's the ultimate destination for that flawed mentality.

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Cat, you bore me.

Americans die, every single day. Nearly 15 times as many die every year from not having health insurance as died in the 9/11 attacks. Hell, more American servicemen and women have died in IRAQ than there were Americans killed on 9/11 - and dumb fuckers like you still think they're linked in any way, shape, or form.

There are churches near Ground Zero, there are synagogues there... Why the hell SHOULDN'T there be a mosque there?

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:26 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by CatPirate:
You don't get it and never will.

Inclusion, Cat.
A slap in the face of the extremists. An Effue to the bad guys.
Clearly, you don't get it and never will.

I hate what happened. But love is the way.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:27 PM

MINCINGBEAST


Anthony,

Of course we live by our rules, not the lowest common denominator. But does the lack of mutuality not vex you? Or the way that the protection of our civil institutions are invoked by those who do not support them? Ultimately that shit is not sustainable, I humbly and vulgarly submit.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Hello,

The 'double standard'does not bother me. I expect us to behave in the best fashion possible, and sometimes that may mean making better choices than other nations.

Anyone who objects to a mosque at ground zero is essentially saying that all Muslims were in on it. In that case you might as well advocate rounding them all up into prisons. That's the ultimate destination for that flawed mentality.

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma




Bingo, and thank you, Anthony.

We go around acting like we're so much better than everyone else in the world, until we want to be pricks; then we start trying to play the justification/rationalization game about it. "Well, CHINA doesn't let people get away with criticizing the government..." "MEXICO has harsh immigration rules..." "They'd never let us put a mosque in THEIR country..." - which, by the way, "they" clearly would, being as this is "their" country as much as it is yours, if they were born here.

Sorry you don't get that. Sorry you think this is supposed to be some exclusive country club of a nation, set aside for white christians only. It just isn't that way, Cat. You're the minority, and soon; better get used to it. Or start packing.

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:31 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Anthony,

Of course we live by our rules, not the lowest common denominator. But does the lack of mutuality not vex you? Or the way that the protection of our civil institutions are invoked by those who do not support them? Ultimately that shit is not sustainable, I humbly and vulgarly submit.




It is the only thing that ever made our country great, and the only thing that will continue to do so: I can easily abide you despising my freedom of speech, and I can fight to the death for your continued ability to hate that speech. You are afforded the full protection of the laws, ideally, even while you espouse overthrowing the government and doing away with the rule of law.

If we can't survive that, it's only because we don't deserve to.

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:33 PM

MINCINGBEAST


Uhm...think you're just a wee bit off target, and strident, Kwicko. Digging the love it or leave it.

in our retarded, globalized world, if one side demands tolerance but does not offer it, that is bound to baffle and irritate.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:35 PM

CATPIRATE


Typical crap out yer mouth. Oh what about the children. What does health care have to do with this issue. Once again flippen. The jews and christians didn't fly jets into the twin towers. That is why they don't offend people. Hmm could build that anywhere in NYC but nooo. Arab gets mad for being profiled but the Italians don't while fying see the difference. See I know PN is a jew hater but is that the one's who worship the Kabalah or the Torah or both types. Chrisisall sides up we you because he has no friends.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:38 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Uhm...think you're just a wee bit off target, and strident, Kwicko. Digging the love it or leave it.

in our retarded, globalized world, if one side demands tolerance but does not offer it, that is bound to baffle and irritate.




No, not "love it or leave it", Mince. I've heard that one plenty enough, thanks. I'm pointing out that white Christian Americans will soon be the minority, and if you don't like that or can't handle it, then you'd best start making your plans.

My feeling is that we really, REALLY should get all our ducks in a row, and quickly, so that we make goddamned sure that the laws protect EVERYBODY equally, and exactly equally, because we've been really lax about protecting minorities of any kind, and whities are soon to BE that minority. And if you never gave a fuck about seeing to it that others were protected by the laws, why on Earth would you imagine they'd return the favor to you?

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:44 PM

MINCINGBEAST


I'm not sure what the Mosque issue has to do without Black Flag's "White Minority." Moreover, I do not hate your freedom of speech. I am, however, indifferent to it. I saw this issue as a matter of defending religious freedom, which we offer, yet noting we are the exception, and how vexing that is--not of preparing for the eventual dominion of The Other.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:47 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by CatPirate:
Typical crap out yer mouth. Oh what about the children. What does health care have to do with this issue. Once again flippen. The jews and christians didn't fly jets into the twin towers. That is why they don't offend people. Hmm could build that anywhere in NYC but nooo. Arab gets mad for being profiled but the Italians don't while fying see the difference. See I know PN is a jew hater but is that the one's who worship the Kabalah or the Torah or both types. Chrisisall sides up we you because he has no friends.




"What about the children"? Where'd you pull that out of? Oh. Never mind. Your head, your ass, same-same.

Jews and christians didn't fly jet into the towers? Good. They've certainly killed plenty enough Muslims, haven't they? And it wasn't Muslims who flew jets into the towers, either. The Q'uran has very specific rules about jihad, and those guys broke just about every one of them. It would be similar to launching a nuclear first strike at Vatican City and claiming to be Catholic while doing it. It doesn't compute, doesn't add up. Like people who kill abortion providers and Planned Parenthood workers, these were just sick fucks trying to blame their sickness on a religion they didn't practice. And truth be told, you sound exactly like them, Cat. No difference at all; you'd just as soon kill everyone in the mid-east, and claim it was because they hated our freedoms. The same hate that powered the 9/11 hijackers drives you, and the same stupid and wrong-headed beliefs.

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Monday, June 7, 2010 3:50 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by CatPirate:
Chrisisall sides up we you because he has no friends.

Troll much?
Sock much?

Crap. He's doing my old RightStuff routine!


The laughing Chrisisall


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Monday, June 7, 2010 4:02 PM

CATPIRATE


Ya know when I was in Charlotte after 9/11 some christian pastor was on tv within 24 hours how he forgave them. I am sorry but don't think that's it's all good now. Not to mention he called his muslim friend to talk not the other way around. Go to a muslim country and get in a car accident. You are guilty because you are an infidel who shouldn't have been here to begin with. Not to mention in the western country honor killings take place. Our we going to have two sets of law. That CA and KK is what ya not grasping will be coming. So there ya go.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 4:04 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by CatPirate:
You are guilty because you are an infidel who shouldn't



Give it up, AU.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Monday, June 7, 2010 4:14 PM

MINCINGBEAST


Pains me to say it, but Kittypirate has a valid point buried amongst his garbage. Maybe we could take Jihadists at face value, rather than arguing that they somehow get their own religion wrong, and glossing our own ideals on to theirs. Why ascribe our ideals to those who don't share them? Oh, because it feels good, and comforts. Shit, I fear I just glossed my idea-substitutes onto Cat.

Jihadists don't represent all Muslims, nor have a monopoly on brutish behavior, but can we atleast not reflexively 1) damn them and 2) valorize them cause Xtians can be worse? Of course we can't.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 5:44 PM

DREAMTROVE


None of these arguments really hit the heart of the issue. Can we talk traffic?

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Monday, June 7, 2010 6:26 PM

MINCINGBEAST


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
None of these arguments really hit the heart of the issue. Can we talk traffic?



You're right! Just think of all that Muslim traffic, that will endanger our freedom, and commute!

Curious though: think the dudes behind the mosque are like "hahaha pwned"?

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 8:00 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I'm sure KittyPirate was there on Sunday to protest the mosque. After all, FauxNews told him everything he needed to know, right? A mosque is being built at Ground Zero! (Actually, it's not a mosque; it's a Muslim community center, and it's not Ground Zero; it's two New York City blocks away, and it's only been in the planning and proposal stages since 1989; it's not as if a bunch of radical jihadis bought up land at Ground Zero in a fit of celebration after 9/11, just to flaunt their religion in the faces of still-grieving 9/11 victims' families).



Why would I think that Kitty was there? Well, because the mob - and I *mean* "mob", because they acted like a mob - in attendance showed themselves to be just as bigoted and idiotic that day as Kitty has shown himself to be here, time and again.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/opinions/kelly/95748769_On_this_ground
__zero_tolerance.html?page=all


Quote:


"We must take a stand and we must say no," shouted rally organizer Pamela Geller as the crowd roared approval. Moments later, another keynote speaker, Robert Spencer, sparked more cheers when he asked, "Are you tired of being lied to?"

Spencer, however, did not explain precisely what lies he was referring to.

Many protesters held American flags. Many carried signs.

"A Mosque at Ground Zero Spits on the Graves of 9/11," one placard proclaimed. Another sign depicted a toilet, with this message: "This is a Mosque. Do You Want it Built at Ground Zero?"

At one point, a portion of the crowd menacingly surrounded two Egyptian men who were speaking Arabic and were thought to be Muslims.

"Go home," several shouted from the crowd.

"Get out," others shouted.

In fact, the two men – Joseph Nassralla and Karam El Masry — were not Muslims at all. They turned out to be Egyptian Coptic Christians who work for a California-based Christian satellite TV station called "The Way." Both said they had come to protest the mosque.

"I'm a Christian," Nassralla shouted to the crowd, his eyes bulging and beads of sweat rolling down his face.

But it was no use. The protesters had become so angry at what they thought were Muslims that New York City police officers had to rush in and pull Nassralla and El Masry to safety.



How. Very. Fucking. Christian. Of. That. Mob.

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 9:45 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
How. Very. Fucking. Christian. Of. That. Mob.


Very, remember, these are the same folk behind the inquisition, the crusades, the burning times, pervert priests, fostering illiteracy, denial of human rights, and often humanity itself, trampling the world we live in underfoot and crushing everything decent in it chasing after that pie in the sky promised by a monstrous so-called diety that IMHO, feeds on misery and bloodshed.

I think they're prolly in for a rude shock when those pearly gates open on a firey pit and cruel, mocking laughter.

I'd maybe be less vicious about it were it not for the fact that some of them nice "christian" boys made the mistake of trying conclusions with Wendy earlier today, and one of em's in the trauma ward, and his parents are screaming a fit - well maybe if their little punk wasn't a would-be rapist, he wouldn't be in pain right now, would he ?

Damn Theophiles, friggin monsters, all of em.

-Frem

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