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POSTED BY: DREAMTROVE
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Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:27 AM

DREAMTROVE


The somewhat straight story, slight propaganda
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/10/AR2010
071000362.html


I find I'm ceasing to believe in the suicide bomber as a concept. I've met lots of Pakistanis. They seem quite normal to me. Nothing leads me to believe that though the ones I've known are devoutly religious, that they are any more likely to strap bombs to themselves or to believe that Allah is about to hand them 72 virgins for doing so than you or I are.

So, I take it their side attacked our side, killing 100 people or so. If we had done the bombing, it wouldn't be news, like when we killed 800 civilians in Quetta earlier, after intelligence told us there were two enemy agents somewhere in the neighborhood. (By we I mean Zardari, and by Zardari I mean Obama, via the Fusion? program.) We don't know if we got them or not. Gotta love that level of targeting.

Nobody's right when everybody's wrong. Okay, they attacked us (they hate the bhuttos a whole lot. Ergo, Zardari, and anyone who works with him) So, they attacked. But then this:

Quote:

The blast tore through a large crowd, including disabled people who were at the government center in the Mohmand Agency to collect wheelchairs, Pakistani officials said. The agency is part of the northwestern Federally Administered Tribal Areas.


Sounds like a massive blast. Maybe they had some more complex means of delivering it, like they have rocket launchers and some such. Likely they do. More likely than a suicide bomber on a motorcycle. Jes sayin.

And it seems they're loving that targeting of the wheelchairs. Allah loves that, it's worth an extra virgin...

Quote:


"Listen to the words, Don't listen to the Filter" - George W. Bush.



Oh, right, sorry, I got all head up, put my mouth to the feeding tube and I started to inhale. Where were we?

So, anyone care to parse what's really going on?

ETA: Sorry, I got confused. I was comparing two bombings, thought they were the same bombing. Here's the other suicide bombing:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hkiMxbHNH0BqgpWA2ZG6
VD6wVTmAD9GS4SB00


Those wacky insurgents, they don't do anything else.

ETA2:

That second one might be us.

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Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:44 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
The somewhat straight story, slight propaganda
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/10/AR2010
071000362.html


I find I'm ceasing to believe in the suicide bomber as a concept. I've met lots of Pakistanis. They seem quite normal to me. Nothing leads me to believe that though the ones I've known are devoutly religious, that they are any more likely to strap bombs to themselves or to believe that Allah is about to hand them 72 virgins for doing so than you or I are.

So, I take it their side attacked our side, killing 100 people or so. If we had done the bombing, it wouldn't be news, like when we killed 800 civilians in Quetta earlier, after intelligence told us there were two enemy agents somewhere in the neighborhood. (By we I mean Zardari, and by Zardari I mean Obama, via the Fusion? program.) We don't know if we got them or not. Gotta love that level of targeting.

Nobody's right when everybody's wrong. Okay, they attacked us (they hate the bhuttos a whole lot. Ergo, Zardari, and anyone who works with him) So, they attacked. But then this:

Quote:

The blast tore through a large crowd, including disabled people who were at the government center in the Mohmand Agency to collect wheelchairs, Pakistani officials said. The agency is part of the northwestern Federally Administered Tribal Areas.


Sounds like a massive blast. Maybe they had some more complex means of delivering it, like they have rocket launchers and some such. Likely they do. More likely than a suicide bomber on a motorcycle. Jes sayin.

And it seems they're loving that targeting of the wheelchairs. Allah loves that, it's worth an extra virgin...

Quote:


"Listen to the story, Don't listen to the Filter" - George W. Bush.



Oh, right, sorry, I got all head up, put my mouth to the feeding tube and I started to inhale. Where were we?

So, anyone care to parse what's really going on?

ETA: Sorry, I got confused. I was comparing two bombings, thought they were the same bombing. Here's the other suicide bombing:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hkiMxbHNH0BqgpWA2ZG6
VD6wVTmAD9GS4SB00


Those wacky insurgents, they don't do anything else.



That reference to wheel chairs stood out to me too DT, but not in that they were a target, more of why mention that? That seemed more like sensationalism - pushing papers, moving mice, kind of detail, "They what?? They bombed handicap? Sick people... click"

Is there an explanation? Angry young men with bombs?

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Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:49 AM

DREAMTROVE


Hmm, I see the story threw me: The first bombing was not in Islamobad, despite the map (why?) There's a second map. That's closer to our predator drones. Now I don't know what happened.

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Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:33 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Then you find the hell out - you do know, although it's piss poor at it, you can find automated translation online, so why not check the LOCAL papers for the area, neh ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:57 PM

DREAMTROVE


Yeah, I know, I'm just about to go to a big family reunion early tomorrow morning, which means I'll be gone for a week. I was feeling lazy. I don't know who to trust on or in pakistan. The govt. is clearly a CIA shill. My best bet offhand is Iran.

I was more thinking about the filter in general than the specific story. More and more I find I dismiss media catch phrases like "suicide bomber" out of hand.

Here's the Iranian story for the second bombing:
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=134137

Anyway, I'll be gone for a week and some, so I'll catch y'all on the flipside

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Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:43 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Yeah, I know, I'm just about to go to a big family reunion early tomorrow morning, which means I'll be gone for a week. I was feeling lazy. I don't know who to trust on or in pakistan. The govt. is clearly a CIA shill. My best bet offhand is Iran.

I was more thinking about the filter in general than the specific story. More and more I find I dismiss media catch phrases like "suicide bomber" out of hand.

Here's the Iranian story for the second bombing:
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=134137

Anyway, I'll be gone for a week and some, so I'll catch y'all on the flipside




Good bye DT, have fun and be sure to say hi to your sister for me.....

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