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Pro-Abortion Libtard wants to smother little babies to kill them

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UPDATED: Sunday, October 10, 2010 17:35
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Saturday, October 9, 2010 1:52 PM

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Author Virginia Ironside, who has a regular advice column in The Independent newspaper, appeared on the BBC’s Sunday Morning Live show to argue that killing unborn disabled children is a possible act of mercy. But the other women on the show quickly reacted in horror after Ironside indicated that she was willing to go much further than simply advocating abortion.

“If I were a mother of a suffering child, I would be the first to want – I mean a deeply suffering child – I would be the first to want to put a pillow over its face,” said the columnist. “And I would with any suffering thing.”

"I'm sorry, I was just about to introduce another guest there, but that was a pretty horrifying thing to say," said a shocked BBC host Susanna Reid.

"What?" asked Ironside.

"That you would put a pillow over the face of a suffering child," said Reid.

"Of course I would! If it was a child I really loved who was in agony?" Ironside shot back. "I think any good mother would. I don't know any mother who wouldn’t say that if this was - there was nothing else that could be done."

A clearly agitated Joanna Jepson, an Anglican reverend who was also appearing on the show, gasped, "That's just not true!" Asked if she thought all mothers would agree with her, Ironside concluded, "I think a lot would. Maybe not any, but a lot."

On the same program, Ironside argued that an abortion could be "moral" if the child is disabled or "totally unwanted," saying it could even be "selfish" not to kill one's child in a eugenic abortion.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/oct/10100505.html



For every baby killed, an adult must be killed to balance the books of Social Security, insurance companies and Wall Street pensions...

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Saturday, October 9, 2010 8:40 PM

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 2:59 AM

DREAMTROVE


What lunatic puts this woman on the air at all?

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:36 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Interesting change of title...again an attempt at a cut which is so far from reality that it is nothing but silly. Would speak eloquently about PN except that we already know it all.

I wonder why I get your goat so intensely, PN? I seem to do an excellent job without even trying...


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Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:48 AM

KANEMAN


Same age as Nikki2, from San Fransicko, and a liberal. Nikki2 does she live at your hippie combine?

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 10:22 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Is it because it's a human or a baby that you wouldn't want to end its suffering?

Many people believe medically-assisted suicide should be allowed. Many places already allow it. In many places, it's considered an act of mercy. I guess showing mercy to a child in agony would be unmerciful, though... Better to let them die only after suffering horrific pain and agony.




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Sunday, October 10, 2010 10:39 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


The issue itself is one upon which I am sitting on the fence. Considering the statements "agony" and "if this was - there was nothing else that could be done", I would actually tend to agree. Doesn't make me comfortable, AT ALL, but if the child were incapable of gaining any pleasure at all from it's life and were in constant agony... It's a conundrum.

To threadjack a bit; I abhor the fact that "pro-lifers" would cheerfully stop an abortion even when the child is in horrible condition which will require the mother to become essentially a slave to raising the money to care for and putting her whole life into keeping that child alive, but enduring a horrific life.

And yes, some will say that would cause people like Stephen Hawkings not to be born, but in that case "agony" doesn't come into it...I'm talking only about extreme cases, very extreme, only.

Given one cannot know the actual condition of the child prior to birth, and what medical science can come up with to mitigate the problem, I'm stuck on the fence between letting it be born and not. It's a conundrum.


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Sunday, October 10, 2010 10:47 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Hawking wasn't born the way he is now. He was a normal, active child, enjoyed riding horses, and was on the Oxford rowing team. His ALS hit him when he was 21.


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Sunday, October 10, 2010 10:51 AM

NIKI2

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Oops. Mea culpa. My bad...didn't know that.


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Sunday, October 10, 2010 11:07 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Many people believe medically-assisted suicide should be allowed. Many places already allow it. In many places, it's considered an act of mercy. I guess showing mercy to a child in agony would be unmerciful, though... Better to let them die only after suffering horrific pain and agony.




Call me one of the many... If'n I knew how to help get it legal in my state I'd be doing it. My greatest fear is a long slow lingering painful death. It's indignant at the least and callous at best. I'd go anywhere I had to go to not let my kid go through that. There's lotsa places in Europe you can go now...

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 12:12 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Oh come now, I highly suspect that SEVERAL of us have mutual "agreements" with family members or longtime personal friends more or less amounting to...

"I wind up like that, you kill my ass."

I know damn sure I do, especially having watched a friends father die, inch by screaming inch, in most horrible agony imaginable (stomach cancer) while the docs dragged it out for as long as they could despite there being no hope whatever, all but drywashing their hands and giggling as the bills racked up, and wiped out everything his daughter had, leaving her penniless, homeless and bankrupt, as well as fatherless, and having to watch that shit besides - hell, she asked me to do for HER, given that her chances of climbing out of that hole the debt threw her in, with her own health problems, are miniscule.

And yanno, some day there's gonna be a reckoning for that, cause I have a long memory, and I hadda see it too.

Life is not so precious as to be bought at the cost of more than it's own value, or when it has no value left.

I think that every individual has the natural right to decide for themselves when their life should end - and for any life currently within their own body, the same right applies.

To do less is to be inhuman - you come face to face with the kind of screaming horror I just described, you'll see just how inhuman "pro-lifers" really are.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 1:14 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
...while the docs dragged it out for as long as they could despite there being no hope whatever, all but drywashing their hands and giggling as the bills racked up




They're doin it to my dad as we speak... 80 grand is the cost for Provenge- which at best will give you 4 or five more months of hell, and he's so desperate for more time, he's probably gonna do it...Pain pills on a timer, barely walking, or talking or eating. Can't drive...Dear god, when it comes my time give me the strength to die well, and quickly............

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 1:28 PM

WHOZIT


So to sum it all up, you libs are fine with putting a pillow over a sick babys face and killing it.....and ya don't feel the least bit creepy?

FYI, "Final Exit" is on sale at Amazon.com, that's if you libs need a good laugh

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 2:36 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
...while the docs dragged it out for as long as they could despite there being no hope whatever, all but drywashing their hands and giggling as the bills racked up




They're doin it to my dad as we speak... 80 grand is the cost for Provenge- which at best will give you 4 or five more months of hell, and he's so desperate for more time, he's probably gonna do it...Pain pills on a timer, barely walking, or talking or eating. Can't drive...Dear god, when it comes my time give me the strength to die well, and quickly............




... and preferably, to make it look like an accident...


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Sunday, October 10, 2010 2:41 PM

WISHIMAY


Maybe a pillow isn't the best way to go about it but as a parent you have to do things that make you feel like crap all the time. Nobody ever said life is pretty or clean or happy, alot of times is mean and unbelievably ugly, just read the bad news for a month...(daily rotten wierd news is where I go)

Ever read one of those stories where a guy cuts off his own arm to try and get out of a jam? Same difference to me, you end it's life to spare it the hell of an -for lack of a better phrase- an un-life. I'd do the same to myself any day of the week.

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 2:43 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
So to sum it all up, you libs are fine with putting a pillow over a sick babys face and killing it.....and ya don't feel the least bit creepy?

FYI, "Final Exit" is on sale at Amazon.com, that's if you libs need a good laugh

Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin



I'm a long, long way from "fine" with it, and it feels *A LOT* creepy to consider. I've had to put animals down, and it's never easy, but at some point, it's a piece of mercy to do so. It strikes me as a bit odd that we are told we should NEVER show anything like such mercy to a terminally ill child.




The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Sunday, October 10, 2010 2:45 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

... and preferably, to make it look like an accident...




I hear they've got life insurance policys that if you off yourself will still pay off, I'm guessing not as much, but some things are priceless.

Anybody know anthing about them and where to get a good one?

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 3:03 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Most birth defects are caused by doctors, govt and Monsanto.

The first thing lets do, is kill all the doctors. Then on down the list.

Virginia Ironside gets The Pillow treatment.

Everyone has a Constitutional right to grow their own opium, God's Little Helper.

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 3:50 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Dear god, when it comes my time give me the strength to die well, and quickly............


Well, my problem is a bit different, since my lifeclock has been in the blinking red for a damn long time already - you see, I been officially "dead" like five times now (only TWO of which were my fault!) and so there's that whole problem of not being, yanno... sure.

One of my friends has commented that he intends to bring a wooden stake with him if they ever ask him to identify my remains, "cause with YOU I never know!".

And boy-howdy do I plan to play hard on that bit of reputation if it ever does happen, although I suspect a couple of you guys might notice...

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 4:11 PM

WISHIMAY


Well, hon, you make sure someone knows your passwords and leave instructions ta notify the rest of us if you do actually go towards the light for good. I'm not Catholic but I am part Highlander, and I'll light a candle for ya

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Sunday, October 10, 2010 5:35 PM

DREAMTROVE


ETA: Thinking about this.

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