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Democrats for Romney? : Washington Post Op-Ed

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Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:44 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Maybe it’s time for Democrats to go easy on Mitt Romney.

The usual calculations would lead to the opposite conclusion. In political campaigns, you always hope the opposing party nominates the most extreme of its possible candidates, thereby surrendering the middle of the electorate. And in this sense, Rick Perry’s candidacy is a Texas-sized gift to President Obama.

The Texas governor is an oppo researcher’s dream, an impossible blend of secession and treason and Ponzi schemes and monstrous lies. His duel for the nomination with Mitt Romney promises to be the sort of donnybrook the Republican Party hasn’t seen in many years, keeping the opposition party feuding over forced vaccinations and immigration rather than attacking Obama for his stewardship of the economy.

But what if the usual rules don’t apply in 2012? Already, upwards of seven in 10 Americans say the country is on the wrong track. What if things don’t improve – or get worse – by November 2012? In that case, voters might well be willing to pull the lever for any alternative – even a Texan who boasted about shooting a coyote while jogging and suggested that Social Security is unconstitutional. In such a scenario, the only thing standing in the way of a President Perry is Willard Mitt Romney.

So far, Democrats and like-minded interest groups have been assuming that Obama can beat Perry more easily than Romney – and that they therefore need fear Perry less than Romney. “I was praying Perry would get in the race,” a former White House aide involved in Obama’s re-election campaign told Reuters last month.

Public opinion surveys support that attitude. A poll released on Thursday by Bloomberg News found Obama with a comfortable lead over Perry, 49-40. But his edge over Romney was 48-43. That followed a Public Policy Polling survey finding Obama with an 11-point lead over Perry but only a 4-point advantage over Romney. The key difference: Among independents, Obama trailed Romney by two percentage points but led Perry by 10.

And so Democrats have been trying to make Romney look just as out-there as Perry. Rather than go after Perry for his statements about the Ponzi scheme known as Social Security, the Democratic National Committee has been trying to make the case that Perry and Romney are indistinguishable on the topic. The DNC arranged a press conference call this week to pronounce Romney “just as dangerous” as Perry.

Similarly, the liberal group Americans United for Change put out a report arguing “Romney, Perry = Same Reckless Goals for Social Security.” Does the group really believe President Romney would be just as harmful to Social Security as President Perry? “Absolutely,” the group’s communications director, Jeremy Funk, told me.

I disagree. There may not be a whole lot of difference in their stated policies in this campaign, but Romney has a well-known history of more liberal positions on health care, climate change, gay rights and abortion. And while Romney is calculating to a fault, Perry’s bluster gives you the sense he’d resolve a trade dispute with Canada by nuking Ottawa.

Encouraging Perry’s candidacy is too dangerous a game for Democrats. Since World War II, no president with an approval rating as low as Obama’s (now hovering around 40 percent) has been reelected. And polls showing Perry to be weaker than Romney against Obama should be small comfort. In January 1980, a Harris poll found that President Jimmy Carter was polling four percentage points better against Ronald Reagan than he was against George H.W. Bush. Carter was more than 30 points ahead of both at the time, but, because of the electorate’s sour mood, wound up losing to Reagan by 10.

It’s reasonable to think the same could happen to Obama in the likely event that economic numbers don’t improve much. “What should the White House do now?” Democratic strategist James Carville asked in a CNN.com commentary this week. “One word came to mind: panic.”

So, given these growing fears that Obama may lose in 2012 to any Republican with a pulse, maybe it’s time for Democrats to stop hoping that Perry will be the next Barry Goldwater. There’s admittedly not much they can do to shape the outcome of the presidential primaries, but they might wish to think twice before using their rapid-response teams to help Perry bury Romney.

One party operative close to these decisions told me there have been a “lot of conversations” about the dilemma, with some labor and environmental groups arguing for easing up on the anti-Romney message machine out of a belief that he would be the “lesser of two evils.”

Good thinking. If Obama is doomed, who would Democrats rather have in possession of the nuclear suitcase: the technocratic Romney, or the coyote-shooting Perry?



"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:27 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


I don't know which one is more likely to beat Obama; my own hunch is Perry.

But I like Romney, and even though I'm a Dem and an Obama supporter, I sometimes think Romney becoming the next president would be better for America - because it would ease the political gridlock in Washington and allow the government to be functional at a time when it really needs to be. It seems to me that Obama - through very little fault of his own - is a divisive figure, and a lot of Repubs will ALWAYS oppose him. Whereas Romney would be able to enact many of the same policies, but with much less resistance.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Sunday, September 18, 2011 3:33 PM

FREMDFIRMA


You think so ?

Consider this.

Romney, Torture, and Teens
The former governor's connections to abusive "tough love" camps
http://reason.com/archives/2007/06/27/romney-torture-and-teens
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As The Hill noted last week, 133 plaintiffs filed a civil suit against Romney’s Utah finance co-chair, Robert Lichfield, and his various business entities involved in residential treatment programs for adolescents. The umbrella group for his organization is the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS, sometimes known as WWASP) and Lichfield is its founder and is on its board of directors.

The suit alleges that teens were locked in outdoor dog cages, exercised to exhaustion, deprived of food and sleep, exposed to extreme temperatures without adequate clothing or water, severely beaten, emotionally brutalized, and sexually abused and humiliated. Some were even made to eat their own vomit.

But the link to teen abuse goes far higher up in the Romney campaign. Romney’s national finance co-chair is a man named Mel Sembler. A long time friend of the Bushes, Sembler was campaign finance chair for the Republican party during the first election of George W. Bush, and a major fundraiser for his father.

Like Lichfield, Sembler also founded a nationwide network of treatment programs for troubled youth. Known as Straight Inc., from 1976 to 1993, it variously operated nine programs in seven states. At all of Straight’s facilities, state investigators and/or civil lawsuits documented scores of abuses including teens being beaten, deprived of food and sleep for days, restrained by fellow youth for hours, bound, sexually humiliated, abused and spat upon.


Mitt Romney and the Teen Torture Industry
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/06/mitt-romney-and-teen-tort
ure-industry.html

(I note for the record, that calling him on this is what got Will Grigg exiled and blacklisted from the "conservative" community.)
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The polluted fountainhead of these programs was a federally funded program called The Seed, which was exposed by a 1974 Senate Judiciary Committee investigation as employing the same “highly refined `brainwashing' techniques employed by the North Koreans” against American POWs. And all of this was an outgrowth of the cynical, murderous fraud called the War on Drugs.

In her indispensable book Help at Any Cost, Maia Szalavitz documented how WWASPS and kindred programs “utilize punishments banned for use on criminals and by the Geneva Convention. Beatings, extended isolation and restraint, public humiliation, food deprivation, sleep deprivation, forced exercise to the point of exhaustion, sensory deprivation, and lengthy maintenance of stress positions are common.”

Some teenagers selected for forced enrollment in BM programs have been treated exactly like terrorist suspects, suffered “extraordinary rendition” at the hands of rented thugs. Many have been kidnapped from their beds (with the consent of parents who had succumbed to a “hard sell” by a BM program pitchman) and taken to an offshore detention facility in the Cayman Islands, Mexico, Costa Rica, Jamaica, American Samoa, Australia, France, or even the Czech Republic; yes, the BM industry, like the CIA's torture gulag, made use of assets in a former Iron Curtain nation.


Where do you think the infrastructure behind extraordinary rendition came from ?
Many of the same aircraft were involved, and since the fall of WWASPS, some renditions are even using the same now-defunct facilities.
Hell, some of our happy little torturers ARE former "clients" of WWASPS-run facilities.

The last resort (part one)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2003/jun/29/schools.uk1
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You would have to look closer to see the guards at the wall. Inside, 250 foreign children are locked up. Almost all are American, but though kept prisoner, they were not sent here by a court of law. Their parents paid to have them kidnapped and flown here against their will, to be incarcerated for up to three years, sometimes even longer. They will not be released until they are judged to be respectful, polite and obedient enough to rejoin their families.

And that's the pretty, cleaned up version, as opposed to what goes on when the media aren't around.

Over the GW
http://www.overthegw.com/
Which is what happens when the cameras aren't around, and let's not talk about High Impact or Monrovia.

And the guys they have making the snatch, read it for yourself, heaven only knows if the bastard had something to do with Miss Herons suicide, given that he's a friggin molester.

Want Your Kid to Disappear?
http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July-August-2004/feature_labi_julau
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Seriously, don't even get me started on Strawn, the guys a monster, I've personally tangled with his goons before and even left one half-conscious on the floor of an airport bathroom before, and had we ever crossed paths in person... well, better that we didn't, better for him.

Mind you it wasn't just the parents, either - as I have pointed out before, all too damn many of these hellholes have a complicit "understanding" with the local law, as shown bt the two PA judges who got called on it, and previous threads explicitly showing kids thrown into Teen Challenge by the courts.

And in the end, it comes down to this...
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/INMEMORIAM.html

The other lists are no longer available as when WWASPS collapsed, so too did ISAC, CAICA and most of those devoted to their destruction, but I've posted em before - we're talkin in the hundreds here, and that's just the ones we know about, that we can prove, cause there's a lot of unexplained bodies too.

Officials Probe Unmarked Graves at Florida Reform School
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,464544,00.html
(FYI, we finally got Dozier shut down for good, as well.)

And right there, up to his motherfucking eyeballs in it, collecting money hand over fist, was Romney.
Sembler and Lichfield were his money men, this was a primary source of his political bankroll.

Follow the damn money.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/09/money-men-pro-romney-super-pac
.html?utm_source=CRP+Mail+List&utm_campaign=15780ed808-Newsletter_9_15_119_14_2011&utm_medium=email

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54170352/042911NHDP?secret_password=wh2n1hpe
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In case it's not immediately obvious, some of those are shell companies for the "Provo Canyon" crowd, where Lichfield "made his bones" in the Hellcamp industry, and some interesting backdata to that as well.
http://www.heal-online.org/provocases.htm

I'm tellin ya, WHOLE FILE CABINETS WORTH, okay ?

And right there in the middle, front and center is Romney, a puppet on a string with lots of money, dancing to the masters tune - this is wholly seperate from the usual round and round of public fundraising, this is the vile, acid-dripping core of what put Romney in politics in the first place.
His "true masters", as it were.


Still wanna vote for him ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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