Rick Perry Not Sure if Obama's American, "Because He's Never Seen My Birth Certificate." by Kwicko

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Rick Perry Not Sure if Obama's American, "Because He's Never Seen My Birth Certificate."

POSTED BY: KWICKO
UPDATED: Friday, October 28, 2011 04:46
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Monday, October 24, 2011 2:31 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Huh?

I know. That was my reaction, too. But that's what the man said in an interview with "Parade" magazine that was published yesterday.

Quote:
After dining last month with Donald Trump, Texas Gov. Rick Perry isn't sure that President Obama's birth certificate is real.

The GOP presidential candidate was asked by Parade magazine whether he believed that Obama was born in the United States.

"I have no reason to think otherwise," he said.

Pressed for a "definitive" answer, Perry continued: "Well, I don't have a definitive answer, because he's never seen my birth certificate."

"But you've seen his," the interviewer replied.

"I don’t know. Have I?" Perry said.

Obama released a certificate of live birth during his 2008 campaign, but that didn't satisfy some people, who questioned whether it was real. The White House released the long-form version of his Hawaii birth certificate earlier this year, but some in the "birther" movement, including Trump, still aren't convinced.

"I don't know," Perry said when asked if he believed the birth certificate was real. "I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night. ... He doesn’t think it’s real. ... I don't have any idea. It doesn't matter. [Obama is] the President of the United States. He's elected. It's a distractive issue."

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-perry-obamas-birth-20111024
,0,4493311.story

This guy just keeps getting dumber by the day. Did someone hit him in the head with a brick recently?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, October 24, 2011 2:46 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

And what was his message again, oh that's right. You're so tripped up on the delivery that you have completely missed the issue.

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Monday, October 24, 2011 2:56 PM

KWICKO

His "message" is a garbled mess, as is pretty much everything that comes out of his mouth.

He's trying to court the tea-baggers and birthers while also trying to keep a safe distance from them.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, October 24, 2011 3:10 PM

MAL4PREZ

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
And what was his message again, oh that's right. You're so tripped up on the delivery that you have completely missed the issue.

BWAAAAHHHH!!!

This reply is almost funnier than the interview itself. I mean, really? What message was that exactly BDN?

"I had a conversation with The Trump yesterday and he gave me a talking point that made all kinds of sense coming at me from that orange face under all that wavy hair and above all those shiny pretty gold credit cards and bazillion dollar bills, but my cranium is incapable of weaving the thread of that conversation into any kind of rational statement containing any form of logic..."

Yes, this bizarre Birther statement following a hobnob between Cain and Trump. So let's think about this for a second: Cain can only poorly--very poorly--parrot Trump. Cain is incoherent compared to Trump. Incoherent compared to TRUMP for Gawd's sake.

My goodness, haven't we learned our lesson about having a moron as president? Why are people at all supporting this fool?

OK, I admit. It's fun to watch. But only because I'm fair certain the newest Repub candidate crash and burn has already begun.

Who's next?

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Monday, October 24, 2011 5:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I think Dick Cheney needs to go hunting with Mr Perry.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:12 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Mr. Perry can take his 20% flat tax and embed it where the sun don't shine. The other bad news is that Steve Forbes' doctors were able to unplug him from his hibernation & irrelevance chamber just long enough for him to endorse Perry and his own previously-defeated flat tax scheme.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:55 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by mal4prez:

Yes, this bizarre Birther statement following a hobnob between Cain and Trump. So let's think about this for a second: Cain can only poorly--very poorly--parrot Trump. Cain is incoherent compared to Trump. Incoherent compared to TRUMP for Gawd's sake.

I'mma confused. I thought this was about Perry . I thought Perry met with The Donald. Did I miss the part where Cain got into it? Did he deliver a pizza to the meeting or something?? Not that I think any more of Cain than I do of Perry, mind ya, just askin'.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:58 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Yup. A couple of times I made the same mistake...it's hard to keep these nutwings straight some times, so many of them do and/or say things which show the identical "quality" of stupidity. But yes, it was Perry who met with Trump...Cain has made so many blunders the past few days, and Perry has been dismissed by so many, that I'm not surprised by the confusion.

It's kind of like you can plug any of them into a story...and both Cain AND Perry are incoherent compared to Trump, which is a truly sad thing to say about a Presidential candidate. Then again, there was Bush...

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:08 PM

MAL4PREZ

Quote:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:

Yes, this bizarre Birther statement following a hobnob between Cain and Trump. So let's think about this for a second: Cain can only poorly--very poorly--parrot Trump. Cain is incoherent compared to Trump. Incoherent compared to TRUMP for Gawd's sake.

I'mma confused. I thought this was about Perry . I thought Perry met with The Donald. Did I miss the part where Cain got into it? Did he deliver a pizza to the meeting or something?? Not that I think any more of Cain than I do of Perry, mind ya, just askin'.

Yeah, I was thinking it was Cain. I read the story a day or so before Niki posted it, and somehow I read it to be Cain. Didn't get it right until I saw a followup story this afternoon. Really, I'm a little surprised. I figured that Cain was nutty enough for to go Birther, didn't think Perry was ready to go so far.

But maybe it does make sense. Perry knows he's sinking so he's trying anything to get his name in the headlines again.

In any case, could these candidates be any worse? It's unbelievable.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:03 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
BWAAAAHHHH!!!

This reply is almost funnier than the interview itself. I mean, really? What message was that exactly BDN?

I have underlined the message.

"The GOP presidential candidate was asked by Parade magazine whether he believed that Obama was born in the United States.

"I have no reason to think otherwise," he said.

Pressed for a "definitive" answer, Perry continued: "Well, I don't have a definitive answer, because he's never seen my birth certificate."

"But you've seen his," the interviewer replied.

"I don’t know. Have I?" Perry said.

Obama released a certificate of live birth during his 2008 campaign, but that didn't satisfy some people, who questioned whether it was real. The White House released the long-form version of his Hawaii birth certificate earlier this year, but some in the "birther" movement, including Trump, still aren't convinced.

"I don't know," Perry said when asked if he believed the birth certificate was real. "I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night. ... He doesn’t think it’s real. ... I don't have any idea. It doesn't matter. [Obama is] the President of the United States. He's elected. It's a distractive issue.""

He is agreeing with a lot of the posters around here that Obama is american and this issue should go away already. But instead of acknowledging that fact you can only comment on the fumbling way he phrased it.

Hell, you couldn't even keep two different republican candidates straight but Perry is the idiot.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:19 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:

Hell, you couldn't even keep two different republican candidates straight but Perry is the idiot.

Hell, according to the Republican candidates, whether they're straight or not is a matter of choice. And lots of folks (including Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison) seem to think Perry's chosen not to keep himself straight.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:50 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:

Hell, you couldn't even keep two different republican candidates straight but Perry is the idiot.

That's not how you tell them apart-- they're BOTH dumber than Jayne Cobb.
Perry is the vanilla idiot. Cain ( forgive me for being racist!) is the chocolate flavored one. Or maybe, as the Panthers used to put it, maybe he's an Oreo, black on the outside but white on the inside.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 8:51 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

I don't even know where to begin about the oreo thing. I guess its what they call African Americans who like "white" things, I don't like hobbies or topics being classified as "black" things or "white" things. I like mostly "white" things, if you want to measure it that way. But if someone whose ancestry happens to be African likes the things I'm into then people slag on them and call them an oreo. Why can't people like whatever they like without being chunked into boxes and criticized? That seems pretty racist to me, just like saying people act a certain way because of race. Saying people should like certain things because they are a certain race (race is a stupid word anyway, I prefer ethnicity). Anyway if people say someone should like certain things because of their ethnicity then that's the same as saying they are a certain way because of their ethnicity and that's racism pure and clear, even if one applies that attitude to one's own compatriots.

Luh suh.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 8:54 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

You know, if I paid my lawyers millions of taxdollars to refuse showing my birth certificate in court (where it can be cross-examined for accuracy), refused to release all my other records like school transcripts and hospital records, then promoted my birth-certificate attorney to the supreme court which then ordered that no US citizen has the right to complain about an illegal alien president, I wonder if anyone would be suspicious?

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Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:18 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I don't even know where to begin about the oreo thing. I guess its what they call African Americans who like "white" things, I don't like hobbies or topics being classified as "black" things or "white" things. I like mostly "white" things, if you want to measure it that way. But if someone whose ancestry happens to be African likes the things I'm into then people slag on them and call them an oreo. Why can't people like whatever they like without being chunked into boxes and criticized? That seems pretty racist to me, just like saying people act a certain way because of race. Saying people should like certain things because they are a certain race (race is a stupid word anyway, I prefer ethnicity). Anyway if people say someone should like certain things because of their ethnicity then that's the same as saying they are a certain way because of their ethnicity and that's racism pure and clear, even if one applies that attitude to one's own compatriots.

Luh suh.

At least I didn't call him an

(Not for the faint of heart, or the politically correct)

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Uncle Tom niggah

which is what I've thought about him all along. Been waiting for somebody black to say that one out loud.

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Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:42 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Mal4, not only did I make the same mistake (Cain/Perry), but I had to go back and CORRECT my typing before posting, in some other thread. They are pretty much interchangeable in their BELIEFS--they try to come across differently, but underneath it's the same.

As to the non-answers posted and underlined here, they are precisely the same answers ALL the right-wing candidates have given who want to keep it alive yet don't want to be seen as TOO fringy, now that it's pretty much become a joke. We've heard it so many times before; it's precisely akin to "I'm sorry IF I offended anyone" when they backtrack on an obviously offensive statement.

An actual answer would be "He was born in America. It's been proven." But they won't say that, it would lose them the hard-core fringers who still believe he was born in Kenya. So that is NO comeback; we got the mesage quite clearly the first time around. Additionally, that "you've seen his birth certificate." "Have I?" is even clearer.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:45 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Have you ever read Uncle Tom's Cabin? Its a very interesting book, we read it when I was 14 in my eigth grade class. A very interesting book.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Friday, October 28, 2011 1:51 AM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:
I don't even know where to begin about the oreo thing. I guess its what they call African Americans who like "white" things, I don't like hobbies or topics being classified as "black" things or "white" things. I like mostly "white" things, if you want to measure it that way. But if someone whose ancestry happens to be African likes the things I'm into then people slag on them and call them an oreo. Why can't people like whatever they like without being chunked into boxes and criticized? That seems pretty racist to me, just like saying people act a certain way because of race. Saying people should like certain things because they are a certain race (race is a stupid word anyway, I prefer ethnicity). Anyway if people say someone should like certain things because of their ethnicity then that's the same as saying they are a certain way because of their ethnicity and that's racism pure and clear, even if one applies that attitude to one's own compatriots.

Luh suh.

At least I didn't call him an

(Not for the faint of heart, or the politically correct)

Select to view spoiler:

Uncle Tom niggah

which is what I've thought about him all along. Been waiting for somebody black to say that one out loud.

No. Just no.

Herman Cain is a conservative who happens to be a black man. While I have major issues with his policies and quite a few of his beliefs, his skin color in no way informs my opinions of him.

I disagree with the man's policies, not with his skin color. Referring to him as an "Oreo" or an "Uncle Tom" is as bad as - or worse than - Rappy saying it bugs him that Obama is black.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, October 28, 2011 4:46 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I'm with Mike. I despise Cain--mostly I laugh at him--but it has nothing to do with his skin color, it has to do with the ridiculousness of his positions and the way he is using the system. I'm beginning to fall on the side of the fence of those who say his whole campaign is a fake, that like Palin, he's doing it to up his profile.

After all, for many years he's been a paid speaker at right-wing events (mostly Koch Brothers subsidized); run for Prez, man, it ups your profile and all those lovely speaking fees. He may be just following Palin's lead...actually, that could well be true of Gingrich, Paul, and who knows who else? It's a smart strategy, and the things he's talked about are grist for the right-wing mill, but ridiculous to the vast majority of the voting public.

As to Rick Perry, I hear he's "contemplating" backing out of some of the debates, which shouldn't surprise anyone. In the first place, how MANY debates they've got is absurd, I agree with him on that. But far beyond that, his handlers have GOT to recognize how badly he is in debates, so it's good strategy. Can't go around showing what an idiot you are on stage with a bunch of other idiots who can at leat TALK coherently...or semi-coherently anyway.

They are both equally idiotic; their skin color has nothing to do with it.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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