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Mitt Romney Takes Credit For The Auto Bailout. Say, What?

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UPDATED: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 06:55
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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 5:32 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


This one was a jaw dropper for me when I first heard him say it. Fucking incredible!
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It’s a common thing for a presidential candidate to pontificate about an issue of the day. It’s quite another for one to take credit for something he had no discernible role in.

But that isn’t stopping Mitt Romney. On Monday, in an interview with Cleveland‘s WEWS-TV, Romney said, “I’ll take a lot of credit” for the revival of the Detroit companies that went through federally sponsored bankruptcies.

Nobody disagrees that Romney kicked off the debate over whether General Motors and Chrysler would be better off filing for Chapter 11, rather than go hat in hand to Congress for a bailout. His New York Times op-ed piece, “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt,” has a place in the historic saga.

In the television interview, however, Romney takes his role further than just proposing an idea. Here’s what he said:

“ My own view, by the way, was that the auto companies needed to go through bankruptcy before government help. And frankly, that’s finally what the president did. He finally took them through bankruptcy. That was the right course I argued for from the very beginning. It was the UAW and the president that delayed the idea of bankruptcy. I pushed the idea of a managed bankruptcy and finally when that was done, and help was given, the companies got back on their feet. So I’ll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry’s come back.”

But where was Romney when the actual work was taking place on the bailout? As far as I could tell at the time, when I was reporting on the story on a daily basis for The Times, he was not involved in any visible way, beyond speaking about it.

There were Republican players who took part in the discussions, including Tenn. Sen. Robert Corker, who insisted that UAW members’ compensation be adjusted to reflect that of transplant auto workers, such as those he represented. Michigan’s former Republican governor, John Engler, now president of The Business Roundtable, did his best to round up support on Capitol Hill, before a Congressional bailout died in the Senate.

And of course, President George W. Bush got things rolling with the first assistance to the car companies, which kicked in just before Barack Obama took office and moved the ball further down the field.

If Romney was indeed pushing for the idea of a managed bankruptcy in the manner he describes, he wasn’t doing it where the automotive and political press corps could see it, beyond the op-ed page.

I don’t recall any of the lawyers, bankers, lawmakers, union leaders and others we all talked in the course of our reporting bringing up his name. In fact, one of the key bankers I spoke with regularly is a high-powered financier for GOP candidates, and he surely would have detailed Romney’s role, if he played one.

Maybe we all missed something. Or maybe, Romney is revising history. But it’s always a good idea to make sure there’s nobody around who was actually there before you claim to have done something. http://www.forbes.com/sites/michelinemaynard/2012/05/08/mitt-romney-ta
kes-credit-for-the-auto-bailout-say-what/2/

The man is unbelievable. It's just another example of "lie blatantly, nobody will stop you". I get the tactic; muddy the waters enough by claiming this and, if you keep saying it, enough gullible Americans will start to believe it (and those who hate Obama will ENTHUSIASTICALLY "believe" it), but when it comes to hypocrisy and out-and-out lying, the man takes the cake!

Everyone's heard about it by now, but I thought I'd put it up and enjoy watching our righties twist and turn to try and defend it.


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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 5:39 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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LANSING, Mich. — Mitt Romney is making a play for his native Michigan, which last voted for a Republican for president nearly a quarter of a century ago. His task is made infinitely more difficult because of his opposition to the auto bailouts that many credit with saving the industry, a fact that was illustrated when he took the stage here Tuesday, not far from a GM plant.

As protesters outside the Lansing Community College auditorium where he appeared criticized Romney's opposition to the bailouts, the presumptive GOP nominee was introduced by Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder, a Republican who has called the $80-billion federal loans to GM and Chrysler successful. Neither man raised the matter.

In a state where car is king and where his father led an automotive company before becoming governor, Romney's only remarks about cars were lamenting the demise of Oldsmobile, which had been based in Lansing.

The automobile industry and the bailouts are sensitive issues in the state; voters overall support the bailouts, with GOP voters split over it. Romney's difficulty with the issue arose Monday, when the candidate raised eyebrows when he claimed credit for the auto industry's recovery in an interview with an Ohio television station.

"I'll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry's come back," Romney said Monday on WEWS-TV in Cleveland, arguing that his call for the companies to go through a managed bankruptcy was eventually the path President Obama took.

"My own view is that the auto companies needed to go through bankruptcy before government help," Romney said. "And frankly, that's finally what the president did."

During a call organized by Obama's campaign, United Auto Workers President Bob King described Romney's argument as "absurd."

King noted that Romney had favored having the car companies go through bankruptcy and seek private financing as they restructured. But at the time, the credit markets were frozen and little or no financing was available.

During a call organized by Obama's campaign, United Auto Workers President Bob King described Romney's argument as "absurd."

King noted that Romney had favored having the car companies go through bankruptcy and seek private financing as they restructured. But at the time, the credit markets were frozen and little or no financing was available. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-romney-michigan-2
0120509,0,2326090.story
would say something like "he's lost his credibility", but that disappeared so long ago I don't think anyone even remembers WHEN. I guess, in the end, all we can do is sit back and laugh. The absurdity has gotten beyond anything possible to take seriously!



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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:00 AM

STORYMARK


I think he (and his keepers) assume that their base isn't likely to remember or look up what he said in the past. And he's right. He's appealing to guys like Rappy and Hero, that will swallow whatever they're given, as long as it has an elephant's footprint mashed into it.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:55 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yup, that's the saddest part of all. Just like 2010, they buy into the hype--in that case the promise of job creation--then find out too late what they're REALLY in for. Too many stupid, intellectually lazy Americans running around.

It's not the perfect answer, but for me, if I haven't checked a candidate (for ANYTHING) out, I leave that part of the ballot blank. At least I don't contribute to the wrong guy that way. Mostly I do check them out, but there are sometimes so many... Either way, I sure don't buy the hype I hear on TV, as so many do.



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