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Sarah Palin claims Jesus celebrated Easter
Friday, October 25, 2013 7:44 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Quote: In an interview with Fox and Friends this morning, the former Alaska governor promoted her new book about the left's "war on Christmas" and argued that all Christian holidays should return to the traditional versions practiced by Jesus. "It makes me so gosh darn angry," Palin explained. "The liberal left in this country has targeted Christian holidays and is trying to secularize them right out of existence. "When Jesus celebrated Easter with his disciples there were no Easter bunnies or egg hunts. There were no Easter sales at department stores or parades in the street. Easter was a special time of prayer and Christian activism. "Jesus would gather all the townspeople around and would listen to their stories about the meaning of Easter in their lives. Then he would teach them how to love one another, how to protest Roman abortion clinics and how to properly convert homosexuals. "You can't even do things like that these days without getting called out by some wacko left-wing human rights group. Christians had more freedom under Roman rule than we do now in our own country! We need to return Easter back to the way it was when Jesus was alive." Gospel of Palin Easter is a Christian holiday celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ on the third day after he was crucified by the Romans in the 1st century A.D. It is the most important holiday for Eastern and Orthodox Christians, and also has great significance in the West. Because Easter is a celebration of Jesus's resurrection from the dead, it is highly unlikely that he celebrated the holiday before his death. Its first recorded instance is sometime in the mid-2nd century. This seemingly obvious fact was not lost on the Fox and Friends team, who instantly challenged Palin's assertions. "Sarah, you know that we love you," started co-host Brian Kilmeade. "I can understand if you think Christian holidays have become too secular and you want to return to the days of the early church. But you have to know that Jesus never celebrated Easter right? I mean you have to know that. What do you think Easter celebrates?" "Well, Brian, Easter celebrates, you know, sticking it to all the liberal lefties out there who want to be taking our guns and our freedom," Palin responded. "It celebrates the rights of the unborn and the right to religious freedom, to not have government come in and tell you who to believe in and who not to ..." "It celebrates the death and resurrection of Jesus," Kilmeade interrupted. "It celebrates his death and resurrection from the dead. Now Sarah, tell me how can Jesus celebrate his own death before he died?" Palin stared blankly into the screen for about 15 seconds, before co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck cut to commercial.
Friday, October 25, 2013 7:49 PM
BYTEMITE
Friday, October 25, 2013 9:02 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:"Everyone, including atheists, practice or believe in a "religion" or set of values that constitutes their view of the world and each deserves the respect and freedom to hold those beliefs. We can only get along if we practice civility toward one another. Disagreement with Palin, as I do as well, does not justify making fun of those who subscribe to a particular faith." "But respect for religion should not preclude us from making fun of someone who is completely, and almost always, WRONG about the facts of her religion, and the history of our country." "I agree with you that people have an innate right to believe in or practice any religion they want. I do NOT think that every set of beliefs — be they religious, political or whatever — is deserving of respect or freedom. For example, most sane people can recognize Scientology for the crock of bullshit that it is. I would defend anyone's right to believe the tenets of that religion but that wouldn't mean I respect them or their goofy faith. Same goes for Mormonism, Catholicism, etc., which, in my view, lie along the same continuum of crazy. Some beliefs simply cry out to be made the butt of jokes." "Really? What religion in your opinion does not "lie along the same continuum of crazy"?" "Buddhism looks relatively sane from an outsiders point of view. Otherwise they all seem to have strongly irrational beliefs. I just don't buy the whole "invisible man in the clouds" scenario or monkey gods and past lives." "But surely it is incumbent on people who hold certain beliefs to actually have some knowledge of what they believe in. It's not necessarily Christianity that's being made fun of here - it's the ignorance of people who yell and scream about being Christians while having no knowledge of what Christian ideas might actually entail. The early Christians would have called them Pharisees." "I agree in principle, as long as people practice their faith in private and do not bring it into public affairs. But we are only talking about this woman because she came very close to the vice presidency of the country, and it is a highly dangerous notion to allow our public officials to curry political support among the populace by openly espousing their religious beliefs. This is not Iran. There is simply no place for that in this country." "To say that everyones views, no matter how whacky or uneducated need be respected equally is ludicrous. That is just not how society works... We reject idiotic views of entire groups of people all the time... History books or rife with examples......." "Oh yes it can Sir! Being a person of faith literally announces the world that you are happy to take an a great amount of views without any evidence to back them up. Remember that faith starts when observable evidence run out and it doesn't deserve respect." "That's an extremely close minded and arrogant thing to say, while you may disagree with a persons beliefs, to disrespect a person for not thinking like you is such an ignorant thing to do. Now i'm not a heavily devout christian, and I don't take much of the bible as literal fact, but the teachings of Christianity and most other religions do have their merits. Contrary to what a lot of people think that their holy books say, most preach tolerance, forgiveness, and kindness. And if everybody lived the way that Jesus did I have no doubt that the world would be a nicer place. And before someone cites a line from the old testament in response to me, i'm not talking about the old testament, i'm talking about the teachings of Jesus. Teachings that say we should not condemn each other for being different or for being sinners. What the bible has taught me is that It doesn't matter if you're black, white, gay, atheist, or have even killed somebody, we should treat others with compassion. And that includes not condemning others for what they believe" "Faith is just a way to continued believing in a "lie"...Think about how we teach our children to believe in Santa Clause...One day the children find out it is not true...But because they get gifts they are happy to play along...But the Church is just looking for a way to get money out of everyone to keep funding the "lie"...That is sad...I know the true benefit of Church is community, but would it not be better to have it under the truth of todays social beliefs..." "I think that The Bible promises that Jesus will one day return to Earth at which time He will judge the living AND the dead! Wow...that's a big job, but nonetheless, I am certain that Jesus did not request that His followers help Him out by doing as much judging as possible prior to His second coming (third if you're Mormon, right?) He simply left us with the message...'Love God The Father with All your heart; and Love Thy Neighbor as you love yourself. (Neighbor means enemy, those people that tend to piss you off, that's hard to do. Easy to love our friends and family, no need to tell us that. We're instructed by Him to place our negativity (hatred, anger, vengeance, greed, jealousy, ad infinitum) place this baggage at the FOOT OF THE CROSS. He said..."Drop all that hateful bullshit.." (of course I paraphrase) Sorry, I got carried away."
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AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Saturday, October 26, 2013 1:42 AM
OONJERAH
Saturday, October 26, 2013 1:55 AM
Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: I mean if you believe in the young earth, then basically reality is a very strange place to be
Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:11 PM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: I mean if you believe in the young earth, then basically reality is a very strange place to be I do not know if History is taught in US schools today or not. I heard about 20 years ago that it had been dropped from Elementary & Junior H.S. to make room for computer instruction. ================== A man's gotta know his roots.
Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:35 PM
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