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Wednesday, January 1, 2014 2:32 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Obamacare’s 2013 tally: Six million signed up for coverage

2.1 million people have signed up for private coverage through the exchanges as of December 28. That includes the 1.1 million that the White House had announced this past Sunday, who had enrolled through Dec. 24 on HealthCare.gov. There are also 3.9 million people who have been found eligible for Medicaid. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/12/31/obamacares-
2013-tally-six-million-signed-up-for-coverage/?tid=hpModule_ba0d4c2a-86a2-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394&hpid=z11
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5 Million Without Insurance Thanks To GOP Refusal

Because of the decision on Obamacare by the Supreme Court, which left the decision to expand Medicaid (a key part of Obamacare) up to the individual states, most Republican-controlled states refused said expansion, leaving substantial portions of the citizenry in the lurch.

Ed Kilgore has been calling this the “wingnut hole,” and many have been speculating about its size. How many Americans will go without health insurance simply because the GOP dislikes the president? Well, happy 2014, dear readers: initial estimates are in, and we have 5 million lucky winners!

That’s approximately the combined population of Delaware, Vermont, the District of Columbia, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming and Alaska. Or alternatively, either Alabama, South Carolina, Colorado or the whole of Norway alone.

The Supreme Court decision was doubly unfortunate, because Republican states tend to be poorer than average and contain a disproportionate number of potential beneficiaries who are losing out.

It’s worth remembering that the federal government will pay 100 percent of the cost of the Medicaid expansion through 2016 and 90 percent of the cost afterward. It could very well work out that refusenik states will not even save money because of additional spending on the uninsured in emergency rooms and elsewhere. Make no mistake: This action is utterly gratuitous. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/12/31/the-wingnu
t-hole-measured-5-million-without-insurance-thanks-to-gop-medicaid-refusal/?hpid=z4


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Wednesday, January 1, 2014 5:50 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


It was only going to take time. Pretty soon Obamacare will has so many people enrolled and liking what they have the the GOP will no longer be able to campaign against it.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, January 1, 2014 9:20 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...





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Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:47 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


My guess is that, because of the t party (notice I used a small t), and opposition will continue well into the presidential election year 2016. Of course, if people wake up, they will vote the bums who hate government, and the people it serves, out of office and return the country to sanity.

All this ObamaHate will do some good as the rogues in both Houses are given the boot. America will be great again, no longer second fiddle to China and Korea, never mind those Arab states.


SGG


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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
It was only going to take time. Pretty soon Obamacare will has so many people enrolled and liking what they have the the GOP will no longer be able to campaign against it.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.


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Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:49 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


This may well be what comes to pass.

Thanks Niki, you are a true patriot!


SGG


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Thursday, January 2, 2014 2:32 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


What's amazing to me is that there are folk trying to divide the country, and, despite that this works for so many that don't have coverage, these people who want to destroy could care less.

What happened to this country of neighbors helping neighbors?

You know what I would like to know...........how many people are on welfare, and what is the breakdown. The critics of the ACA, and other social programs, continue to believe the utter nonsense of the RW radio-nuts, that they would begrudge millions of their neighbors affordable health care, unemployment benefits, and decent housing, etc.

Because they think that the majority of folk being helped are lazy, fat and stupid (Rush seems to fit that category. We could add horny and perverted), and because they feel the majority are people of color.

Little do they know that the ACA promotes jobs and an economic upturn. just ask the governor of North Carolina. But noooooooooooooooooooo, they prefer to see the country, and the communities within, fail miserably because they think it would hurt the minorities. Well, guess again. You lose thousands of jobs and millions in Federal funds that could help stimulate the local economy. Hence more people that could afford to buy health insurance, more tax revenue, which results in better schools, hospitals and infrastructure.


SGG

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Thursday, January 2, 2014 5:59 AM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
What happened to this country of neighbors helping neighbors?


Because they chose to follow through the poison of puritanism with adhering to the philosophy espoused by a monstrously hypocritical sociopath who worshipped a perfidous serial killer of children as the very best of humanity.

http://www.alternet.org/story/145819/ayn_rand,_hugely_popular_author_a
nd_inspiration_to_right-wing_leaders,_was_a_big_admirer_of_serial_killer

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Rand's philosophy can be summed up by the title of one of her best-known books: The Virtue of Selfishness. She argues that all selfishness is a moral good, and all altruism is a moral evil, even "moral cannibalism," to use her words. To her, those who aren't like-minded sociopaths are "parasites," "lice" and "looters."

But with Rand, there's something more pathological at work. She's out to make the world more sociopath-friendly so that people her hero William Hickman can reach their full potential, not held back by the morality of the "weak," whom Rand despised.

Rand and her followers clearly got off on hating and bashing those they perceived as weak. This is exactly the sort of sadism that Rand's hero, Hickman, would have appreciated.


They are in a nutshell, anti-civilization, so deeply opposed to everything that makes humanity what it is, that I firmly and truly believe anyone espousing such a belief has no right to be considered human anymore, because they have voluntarily surrendered it by their own choice to adhere to such a philosophy.

THAT is what happened - we didn't run scum like this out of town on a rail when they first began to express this insanity and spread it to other scum looking for excuses to be monsters.

-Frem

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Thursday, January 2, 2014 12:50 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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You know what I would like to know...........how many people are on welfare, and what is the breakdown.


Your wish is my command (it's been done many times, so easy to find). Here are the most recent figures:
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Welfare Statistics
Total number of Americans on welfare 12,800,000
Total number of Americans on food stamps 46,700,000
Total number of Americans on unemployment insurance 5,600,000
Percent of the US population on welfare 4.1 %

Welfare Demographics
Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %
Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %
Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %
Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %
Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

Average Time on AFCD (Aid to Families with Dependent Children)

Time on AFDC Percent of Recipients
Less than 7 months 19%
7 to 12 months 15.2%
1 to 2 years 19.3%
2 to 5 years 26.9%
Over 5 years 19.6%

Research Date: 1.1.2014
Source: US Department of Health and Human Services, U.S. Department of Commerce, CATO Institute
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/




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