Ben Carson: Deaths of Veterans is a "Gift From God" by ElvisChrist

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Ben Carson: Deaths of Veterans is a "Gift From God"

POSTED BY: ELVISCHRIST
UPDATED: Monday, May 26, 2014 13:43
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Saturday, May 24, 2014 8:53 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/24/ben-carson-veterans_n_5386590
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Now, where are those guillotines.

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:08 PM

WISHIMAY

Course wording, but I hope he's right and I hope they do something, finally.

Pretty sure most in the military would agree, and hope the deaths weren't for nothing.

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:25 PM

JONGSSTRAW

A really crass and stupid thing for him to say. Unbelievable.

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:46 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Everyone knows that 4 or 40 deaths don't mean a damn thing as long as this administration is in office.

Dr C might have made a better point if he'd said the whistle blowers were a gift from the sky fairy, but he's smart enough to say what he means.

Leave it to others to twist his words around, while they completely ignore what others are saying.

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Sunday, May 25, 2014 1:02 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

What do YOU think he said? Exactly and in detail, please.

OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.

"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Sunday, May 25, 2014 1:54 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Well, I'm not going to wait.

This is as I see it:
'interviewer' sets up the position veterans deaths = 'obamacare'
Carson calls it a 'gift from god' so that we can see what happens when 'bureaucracy' gets between patients and healthcare providers (giggle)
'interviewer' people have died and it takes it to a different level
Carson - we need 'seriousness' and to think about the people rather than political spin ... and then seems to lose the thread of the 'seriousness' of it to 'people' and derails into government spending ...

I can't imagine how anyone can think this is meaningful.

The deaths at the VA? Terrible. The cause of those deaths? It's not really clear. I've been reading about how veteran's care has been underfunded ever since the Bush administration. Maybe that had something to do with it. http://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/contributors/2014/05/24/ti
e-vas-problems-gop-budget-cuts/9545805/ http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/04/opinion/rieckhoff-congress-military-vets/ (and many more).

And, not letting the lack of a definitive cause stop him, Carson goes on to castigate people using it for political purposes by ... using it for political purposes.

Sheesh.

OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.

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Sunday, May 25, 2014 3:17 PM

ELVISCHRIST

Quoting somebody's exact words is now "twisting" their words?

That kind of spin would make a neutron star jealous!

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Monday, May 26, 2014 1:43 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Carson's just doing the right-wing thing; try to find anything wrong with anything and tie it to Obamacare or Benghazi. Just a point nobody seems to have noticed:

Quote:
Dr. Ben Carson views the scandal over delayed treatments at the Department of Veterans Affairs as a "gift from God" meant to draw attention to what he sees as an incompetent government that cannot manage its citizens' health care.

“I think what’s happening with the veterans is a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider,” the Fox News contributor said Saturday. “And if we can’t get it right, with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world with are you going to do it with the entire population?”

How about some perspective?

1. The V.A. DOES represent a "relatively small number"; how in the world you are going to do it? Try Medicare. Got its problems, no argument, but it WORKS.

2. Politicians' relationship ON BOTH SIDES to veterans has been fucked up SINCE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION (for the history see Jon Stewart detail it for you below). This is nothing new, this is just "but, but, but, OBAMACARE! BENGHAZI!"

3. Something about at least one war we didn't have to even get into creating a whole slew of new veterans needing medical care... (yeah, I know, "But BENGHAZI!")

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/chc449/world-of-warriorshaft

For further details of the problems in just the past decades: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117855/veterans-affairs-scandal-was
-decades-making

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