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Ukraine’s military Chief of Staff Viktor Muzhenko admitted Russian troops have not been taking part in combat operations in the country’s East during news briefing in Kiev, Ukraine Channel 5 television reports.

MOSCOW, January 29 (Sputnik) — The chief of Ukraine’s General Military Staff Viktor Muzhenko acknowledged that Russian regular army units were not involved in combat action in the troubled Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

“Right now the Ukrainian army is not engaged in combat operations against Russian regular units,” he underscored.

Muzhenko added, however, that he had information about Russian civilian and military individuals fighting alongside independence supporters in the country’s east.
He also said the Ukrainian army had everything it needed to rout what he described as illegal armed units in Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
Speaking at the Davos economic forum on January 21, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said there were upwards of 9,000 Russian military personnel fighting on the side of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics. Russia denied the charge dismissing it as a “primitive fake”.
However, the US State Department was unable to confirm these allegations. According to OSCE observers based at two border crossing points at the Russian-Ukrainian border, there had been no movement of military equipment over the border.

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The Chief of Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces, General Viktor Muzhenko, is saying, in that news-report, which is dated on Thursday January 29th, that the only Russian citizens who are fighting in the contested region, are residents in that region, or of Ukraine, and also some Russian citizens (and this does not deny that perhaps some of other countries’ citizens are fighting there, inasmuch as American mercenaries have already been noted to have been participating on the Ukrainian Government’s side), who “are members of illegal armed groups,” meaning fighters who are not paid by any government, but instead are just “individual citizens” (as opposed to foreign-government-paid ones). General Muzhenko also says, emphatically, that the “Ukrainian army is not fighting with the regular units of the Russian army.”

In other words: He is explicitly and clearly denying the very basis for the EU’s sanctions against Russia, and for the U.S.’s sanctions against Russia: all of the sanctions against Russia are based on the falsehood that Ukraine is fighting against “the regular units of the Russian army” — i.e., against the Russian-Government-controlled-and-trained fighting forces.

The allegation to the effect that Ukraine is instead fighting against “regular units of the Russian army” is the allegation that Vladimir Putin’s Russia has invaded Ukraine, and it is the entire basis for the economic sanctions that are in force against Russia.

Those sanctions should therefore be immediately removed, with apology, and with compensation being paid to all individuals who have been suffering them; and it is therefore incumbent upon the Russian Government to pursue, through all legally available channels, restitution, plus damages, against the perpetrators of that dangerous fraud — and the news reports have already made clear precisely whom those persons are, who have asserted, as public officials, what can only be considered to be major libel.

Otherwise, Ukraine’s top general should be fired, for asserting what he has just asserted.

If what General Muzhenko says is true, then he is a hero for having risked his entire career by having gone public with this courageous statement. And, if what he says is false, then he has no place heading Ukraine’s military.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ukraine war chief: There are no Russian troops in Ukraine

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Ukraine’s military Chief of Staff Viktor Muzhenko admitted Russian troops have not been taking part in combat operations in the country’s East during news briefing in Kiev, Ukraine Channel 5 television reports.

MOSCOW, January 29 (Sputnik) — The chief of Ukraine’s General Military Staff Viktor Muzhenko acknowledged that Russian regular army units were not involved in combat action in the troubled Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

“Right now the Ukrainian army is not engaged in combat operations against Russian regular units,” he underscored.

Muzhenko added, however, that he had information about Russian civilian and military individuals fighting alongside independence supporters in the country’s east.
He also said the Ukrainian army had everything it needed to rout what he described as illegal armed units in Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
Speaking at the Davos economic forum on January 21, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said there were upwards of 9,000 Russian military personnel fighting on the side of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics. Russia denied the charge dismissing it as a “primitive fake”.
However, the US State Department was unable to confirm these allegations. According to OSCE observers based at two border crossing points at the Russian-Ukrainian border, there had been no movement of military equipment over the border.

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http://my.firedoglake.com/blog/2015/01/29/january-29th-ukrainian-comma
nding-general-admits-there-is-no-russian-invasion-of-ukraine/

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you want to see what "Russians fighting" looks like, look at Syria.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Whatever.

THUGGR
Humanitarian. (snicker)

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58208&p=5

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, whatever.

THUGR, if you read the article CAREFULLY, the general (who was from the KIEV side of the line) was saying the same thing as I was: there (jn his view) no REGULAR RUSSIAN TROOPS in eastern Ukraine. Think about it. Roll each word around in your mind, and think about who ELSE could have been in eastern Ukraine aside from "regular Russian troops".

Now, I quoted this person (who, may I remind you, was from the Kiev side of the line) to provide balance to the outlandish claims by Kiev politicians that there were 50,000 Russian troops in eastern Ukraine, and from NATO that there were 10,000 Russian troops in Ukraine.

When I have an opinion, I state my opinion. This general does not express my opinion, he's expressing his own.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you want to see what "Russians fighting" looks like, look at Syria.

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If you want to see what "Russians fighting" looks like, look at Syria.-SIGNY

Killing civilians indiscriminately, and driving thousands from their homes - yeah that sounds about right.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34570938
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Yeah, whatever.

THUGR, if you read the article CAREFULLY, the general (who was from the KIEV side of the line) was saying the same thing as I was: there (jn his view) no REGULAR RUSSIAN TROOPS in eastern Ukraine. Think about it. Roll each word around in your mind, and think about who ELSE could have been in eastern Ukraine aside from "regular Russian troops".

Now, I quoted this person (who, may I remind you, was from the Kiev side of the line) to provide balance to the outlandish claims by Kiev politicians that there were 50,000 Russian troops in eastern Ukraine, and from NATO that there were 10,000 Russian troops in Ukraine.

When I have an opinion, I state my opinion. This general does not express my opinion, he's expressing his own. - SIGNY

No let's stick to the fact that you and 1kiki are so ashamed of your Russia you refuse to acknowledge your connection [to Russia]= THUGR

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You spew nothing but Russian propaganda

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...you would own up to your ties to Russia.

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