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Make Russia Great Again
Friday, June 2, 2017 7:35 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Friday, June 2, 2017 7:49 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Saturday, June 3, 2017 3:03 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Sneaky fucking Russians! - Cousin Avi, Snatch 2000
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Just a record of President Trump's actions as he works his way through Vladimir Putin's shopping list. A few to get us started: 1) Cause discord at NATO, check: "Trump pushes around NATO; lecture seen as unsettling alliance" - http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/25/politics/trump-nato-lecture/ 2) Trying to remove sanctions on Russia from day one, check: "How the Trump administration’s secret efforts to ease Russia sanctions fell short" - https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/trump-administrations-secret-efforts-ease-russia-sanctions-fell-short-231301145.html 3) Returning Russia's US "spy houses" confiscated after the US election interference, check: "TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN TALKS TO RETURN SUSPECTED SPY COMPOUNDS TO RUSSIA" - http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/trump-administration-compounds-russia #RussiaFirst #MakeRussiaGreatAgain
Saturday, June 3, 2017 9:47 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:03 AM
Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:09 AM
Monday, June 12, 2017 3:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: When someone started this thread, I thought it was going to be a serious discussion about how Putin is trying to improve Russia.
Quote:Reduce corruption at home
Quote:Increase military spending to 5% of GDP, improve readiness, and develop and test new weapons systems
Quote:I think it's a great example. That's what WE need to do.
Monday, June 12, 2017 3:21 PM
Quote:Funny, I can't recall your cheerleading America's military, or America's foreign wars.- KRAPO
Monday, June 12, 2017 5:07 PM
THGRRI
Monday, June 12, 2017 5:18 PM
Monday, June 12, 2017 5:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Funny, I can't recall your cheerleading America's military, or America's foreign wars.- KRAPO Our military should be ready to credibly DEFEND AMERICA, not serve as an endless cashcow of American tax dollars to Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, or Northrop Grumman. Or wind up having to support terrorists abroad, or conduct endless wars of aggression to support the petrodollar.
Monday, June 12, 2017 9:21 PM
Quote:Ok so you support Russia's imperialism and foreign wars but not America's. Got it. Just thought we should make that clear because you did say the US should follow Russia's example. #contradictions-KRAPO
Monday, June 12, 2017 10:59 PM
WISHIMAY
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Who gave away 20% of our uranium rights to Russia ?
Monday, June 12, 2017 11:09 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote: Originally posted by Wishimay: I see this spit out a hundred times a day and NONE of you ever fact check the crap you repeat..... She didn't even have to power to do that. "Clinton did not represent the State Department on the panel of agency officials who approve deals such as the Uranium One transaction. The representative at the time, former Assistant Secretary Jose Fernandez, told the Times, "Mrs. Clinton never intervened with me on any C.F.I.U.S. matter," referring to the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States." http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/16/trump-claims--falsely--that-clinton-gave-russia-20-of-us-uranium.html
Quote: Moreover, the State Department was one of nine government agencies that had to sign off on the deals. Other federal and state regulators also had to approve them.
Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:31 AM
6STRINGJOKER
Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:24 AM
Quote:"...and never once hiding his smirk..." I've seen this same smirk on Netanyahu, Merkel, May, and pretty much every leader that has met with Trump. Shinzo Abe practically did a spit take when he was sitting next to Trump. No one takes him seriously. Maybe that's a new strategy? And then Trump has the nerve to say in his "speech" about why we were leaving the Paris Accord, "no one will laugh at the US any more." I just started howling when I heard him say that. I think the entire world started laughing when he said that. He may have set a world record for 'most humans laughing simultaneously' when he said that. Honestly, I take some solace from the fact that the country isn't completely on fire yet.
Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: When someone started this thread, I thought it was going to be a serious discussion about how Putin is trying to improve Russia. Yanno, pay down foreign debts, bolster the ruble with gold, and make the Russian Central Bank follow Moscow's policy, to insulate Russia from more attacks on the ruble. Take Saudi Arabia to the brink, and then make a deal with them, to insulate Russia from more oil-price wars. Use sanctions as a way to increase agriculture, and forbid GMOs, to enhance Russia's agricultural products on the world market Use sanctions to boost manufacturing. Increase military spending to 5% of GDP, improve readiness, and develop and test new weapons systems Reach out to manufacturing and military partners (China, Iran) for support Reduce corruption at home Create a non-SWIFT system of interbank payments In other words, do everything possible to insulate Russia from military, financial, cyber, and economic aggression, and create Fortress Russia. ====== I think it's a great example. That's what WE need to do. ----------- "Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck. I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The Complete (And Ever Expanding) List Of Hillary's Excuses For Election Loss Two-time failed presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has blamed everything and everyone other than the old lady looking back at her in the mirror for her 2016 presidential election loss. The politically irrelevant former politician began whining and complaining about her stunning loss to Donald Trump soon after Election Day, and shows no signs of letting up. Here's a full list of all the people, organizations, government entities, and abstract concepts Hillary Clinton has blamed for her loss thus far: 1. Former FBI Director James Comey? "[A]s I explain in my book, you know, the Comey letter, which was, now we know, partly based on a false memo from the Russians. It was a classic piece of Russian disinformation — comprimat, they call it. So, for whatever reason, and I speculate, but I can’t look inside the guy’s mind, you know, he dumps that on me on October 28th, and I immediately start falling," said Hillary. She later added: "Remember, Comey was more than happy to talk about my emails, but he wouldn’t talk about the investigation of the Russians." 2. Sexism "Men got paid for the speeches they made, and I got paid for the speeches I made. It was used, I thought it was unfairly used, and all of that, but it was part of the background music," whined Hillary. She also said, "I never said I was a perfect candidate, and I certainly have never said I ran perfect campaigns, but I don't know who is or did. And at some point it sort of bleeds into misogyny." 3. The electoral system "I beat them both," Hillary told New York Magazine, speaking of her irrelevant popular vote win against Trump and her primary win-by-Super-Delegates to Bernie Sanders. 4. WikiLeaks ?NY Magazine reports: "Clinton says she thinks she 'underestimated WikiLeaks and the impact that had, because I thought it was so silly.' Those hacked emails, dripped out over weeks, says Clinton, 'were innocuous, boring, inconsequential. And each one was played like it was some breathless flash. And so you got Trump, in the last month of the campaign, talking about WikiLeaks something like 164 times..." 5. "Minions" "Clinton says she thinks she 'underestimated WikiLeaks and the impact that had, because I thought it was so silly.' Those hacked emails, dripped out over weeks, says Clinton, 'were innocuous, boring, inconsequential," reported New York Magazine. "And each one was played like it was some breathless flash. And so you got Trump, in the last month of the campaign, talking about WikiLeaks something like 164 times; you’ve got all his minions out there, you’ve got the right-wing media just blowing it up. You’ve got Google searches off the charts.'" 6. Right-wing media "They have a mission," said Hillary of right-wing media. "They use the rights given to them under the First Amendment to advocate a set of policies that are in their interests, their commercial, corporate, religious interests. Because the advocacy media occupies the right, and the center needs to be focused on providing as accurate information as possible. Not both-sides-ism and not false equivalency." 7. Mainstream media Hillary complained, "But what was really interesting, since the mainstream media covered that, as I say like Pearl Harbor, front pages everywhere, huge type, etc." 8. Democratic National Committee "I had to inject money into it -- the DNC -- to keep it going," she said. 9. Democrat Party "Let me just do a comparison for you. I set up my campaign and we have our own data operation. I get the nomination. So I’m now the nominee of the Democratic Party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party," cried the former secretary of state. "I mean it was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency, its data was mediocre to poor, nonexistent, wrong. I had to inject money into it." 10. 1,000 Russian agents "If you look at Facebook, the vast majority of the news items posted were fake. They were connected to, as we now know, the 1,000 Russian agents who were involved in delivering those messages," she said. 11. Vladimir Putin "Putin wants to bring us down," she said. "And he is an old KGB agent. I had, obviously, run-ins with him, because that in large measure prompted his animus toward me, and his desire to help Trump." 12. Donald Trump When Hillary was asked if she believed Trump was colluding with the Russians, she replied: "Yes ... yes. I’m leaning Trump. I think it’s pretty hard not to." 13. Republican-enabled voter suppression "You had effective suppression of votes. Those of us who can remember the Voting Rights Act, the expansion of the franchise, and then I was in the Senate when we voted 98 to nothing under a Republican president, George W. Bush, to extend the Voting Rights Act," said Hillary. "And the Supreme Court said, 'Oh, we don’t need it anymore,' throws it out, and Republican governors and legislatures began doing everything they could to suppress the vote." 14. Citizens United "You had Citizens United come to its full fruition. So unaccountable money flowing in against me, against other Democrats, in a way that we hadn’t seen and then attached to this weaponized information war," complained the failed candidate. 15. Facebook "And there have been some studies done since the election that if you look — let’s pick Facebook. If you look at Facebook, the vast majority of the news items posted were fake." 16. "Millions" of Twitter bots "We see now this new information about Trump’s Twitter account being populated by millions of bots," said Hillary. 17. Steve Bannon "So Bannon, who’d been running the Breitbart operation, supplying a lot of the ... untrue, false stories," Hillary said. 18. Netflix Yes, Hillary even blamed Neflix: "Go to Netflix and say you want to see a political documentary, eight of the top 10 — last time I checked a few weeks ago — were screeds against President Obama or me, or both of us." "Now, I love Netflix. We’re not making the documentaries that we’re going to get onto Netflix," she added. 19. "Alt-right" media like Infowars "And they began to have some of their allies within the internet world, like Infowars, take out pieces and begin to say the most outrageous, outlandish, absurd lies you could imagine," whined Hillary. 20. Bernie Sanders The Washington Examiner reports: "To what extent do you assign blame to Bernie Sanders, to media for focusing on emails – " Kristoff started to ask. "How much time do we have?" Clinton laughed after checking her watch. 21. Suburban women 22. Racism/Xenophobia "Trump does have a visceral grasp of the American politcal underbelly; he really understands how to inflame people," explained Hillary, "whatever resentment, or point of anger you may have, he can get into it -- whether it's race, xenophobia, or Islamophobia, whatever it is." 23. "Anti-American forces" "I take responsibility for every decision I made, but that's not why I lost," she said. "Anti-American forces are going after our economy and they are going after our unity as a nation." 24. Bad polling "Guided by Americans and guided by people who had polling and data information," Hillary said. 25. Low-information voters 26. Content farms in Macedonia "You know, there’s all these stories of guys over in Macedonia who are running these fake news sites and I’ve seen them now and you sit there and it looks like a sort of low-level CNN operation," Hillary said, after decrying these Macedonia's "content farms." 27. Fake news "The other side was using content that was just flat-out false, and delivering it in a very personalized way, both sort of above the radar screen and below. And you know, look, I’m not a tech expert by any stretch of the imagination. That really influenced the information that people were relying on," Hillary said. 28. Colluding Trump campaign officials "We're getting more information about all of the contacts between Trump campaign officials and Trump associates with Russians before, during and after the election," said Hillary. 29. Stupid Americans who can't tell the difference between real and "fake news" 30. The "broad assumption I was going to win" "I also think I was the victim of a very broad assumption I was going to win. 'It doesn’t matter what you do to her ...'" 31. Goosefer "You know, basically the group running this was the GRU which is the military intelligence arm of the Russian military and they have a very sophisticated cyber operation, in bed with WikiLeaks, in bed with Goosefer, in bed with DC Leaks," said Hillary. 32. DCLeaks "?And you know, DC Leaks and Goosefer, which were dropping a lot of this stuff on me, they haven’t done anything since early January. Their job was done," she said. "They got their job done." 33. Data from the Republican National Committee "I think that the marriage of the domestic fake news operations, the domestic RNC Republican allied data, you know, combined with the very affective capabilities that the Russians brought," said the Democrat. 34. Technology "And what we saw was, in the election particularly, and I appreciate what Walt said, the first time that you had the tech revolution really weaponized politically — before it was a way to reach voters, you know, collect fundraising, do things that would help the candidate who was behind the messaging — that changed this time, and it changed for a number of reasons we should talk about," said Hillary. 35. The FBI 36. The GRU "You know, basically the group running this was the GRU which is the military intelligence arm of the Russian military and they have a very sophisticated cyber operation," complained Hillary, "in bed with WikiLeaks, in bed with Goosefer, in bed with DC Leaks." 37. Deplorables "And all of the Trump people go around screaming, 'Lock her up, lock her up,' and all of that," cried Hillary. 38. Team Hillary was too honest "And we did not engage in false content," she said. "We may have tried to put every piece of information in the best possible light, and explanations, but we weren’t in the same category as the other side." http://www.dailywire.com/news/17053/sad-full-long-list-hillary-excuses-election-loss-amanda-prestigiacomo# She lies from the very start of her interview, where she claims her problem was her e-mail ACCOUNT ( not server ) and that it had been done before, there were no rules against it, no laws against it, and she did nothing wrong which others hadn't done before. 100% and complete Bullshit. She either STILL doesn't understand the difference between her server and an e-mail ACCOUNT, or she thinks the American voter ( at least most of them ) is too damn stupid to know. I happen to think it's both. She understands that in order to have total control over her e-mails, she needed her own server. But to Hillary, that's still just an ' account '. It's a file or something, which sits in her closet, and is guarded by Secret Service. Just let that one sink in for a moment, as you ponder the fact that her and damn near all of the DNC's e-mail were hacked.
Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:58 AM
Quote:BTW, I wrote a LIST of the things Russia was doing that I thought we should be doing, and imperialism wasn't in it.
Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:37 AM
Quote:BTW, I wrote a LIST of the things Russia was doing that I thought we should be doing, and imperialism wasn't in it.- SIGNY No, but it is in Putin's list, somewhere near the top, and you've cheered him on in every expression of it,= KRAPO
Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:15 AM
Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:32 AM
Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Russia is really working themselves into a froth trying to get in our pants these days... Can't help but wonder if Putin is just really, really, really, bored. https://frontier.yahoo.com/finance/news/russia-targeting-us-military-personnel-152500119.html
Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Of course, there are those that only listen when Breitbart barks, or howls depending on your mood. Meanwhile, Putin is desperately trying to get his hand up our skirt to get to the good stuff. Stay tuned....
Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:56 PM
Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:22 AM
Saturday, June 24, 2017 12:33 PM
Quote:Trump working hard to water down bi-partisan Russian sanctions bill- SIGNY
Quote:Germany's Angela Merkel slams planned US sanctions on Russia German Chancellor Angela Merkel shares concerns that proposed new US sanctions against Russia could hurt European companies, her spokesman says. He called the plans "peculiar."
Quote:Foreign Minister Gabriel and Austrian Federal Chancellor Kern on the imposition of Russia sanctions by the US Senate We cannot, however, accept the threat of illegal extraterritorial sanctions being imposed on European companies that are participating in efforts to expand Europe’s energy supply network!
Saturday, June 24, 2017 4:02 PM
Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Of course, there are those that only listen when Breitbart barks, or howls depending on your mood. Meanwhile, Putin is desperately trying to get his hand up our skirt to get to the good stuff. Stay tuned....
Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: I was thinking today about those reports that Putin may be high functioning Aspergers, I can't help but wonder if he's trying to be the coolest kid on the block, because they DO that as adults. It's like in the Sherlock series he has to wear the scarf and hat to look cool. Hubby is very concerned as an adult with his appearance, because he didn't know how to be as a kid...They love getting respect for looking cool. I don't think it's really about dominating the world, he just wants to take the USA'a spot in cultural influence and political influence. I think that's what that smug grin was about when they asked if he messed with the elections. I think he was thinking "Oh, the USA think they soo smart, well Putin smarter, I can screw with these guys any time I want". I think that's what the riding the horse bare chested was about. He wants to be THE world icon...
Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:27 AM
Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Judicial Watch obtains new classified Clinton emails A nonprofit legal watchdog claimed Thursday that newly unearthed documents show Hillary Clinton sent and received more classified information on her private server than previously known, and that the papers also show top aide Huma Abedin did favors for Clinton Foundation insiders. Judicial Watch released more than 2,000 pages of documents it obtained pursuant to a May 5, 2015 court order, after filing a lawsuit against the State Department for failing to comply with a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. The new documents included 115 Clinton email exchanges that were not previously turned over by the State Department. “These shocking new Clinton emails show why the Justice Department should reevaluate, reopen, or reinvigorate Clinton, Inc. investigations,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said on Thursday. “The casual violation of laws concerning classified material and noxious influence peddling show the Clinton State Department was ‘corruption central’ in the Obama administration.” According to Judicial watch, on Dec. 6, 2010, Clinton shared classified information with non-U.S. government employees Justin Cooper, an aide to former President Clinton, and Clinton Foundation Director Doug Band. The email allegedly shows Clinton instructing her aide to print the correspondence, which involved allegations of theft by Bangladeshi banker and Clinton Foundation donor Muhammad Yunus. Yunus was accused of embezzling $100 million from the Grameen Bank, which he founded. In another instance, on March 14, 2011, Judicial Watch says State Department official Maria Otero emailed Clinton information about the Grameen Bank, and it was deemed classified and “confidential” by the State Department, but later redacted. Judicial Watch claimed Clinton responded to Otero using her HDR22@clintonemail.com account, and copied Abedin’s unsecure email account as well- huma@clintonemail.com. Judicial Watch’s new emails appear to show multiple Abedin email exchanges from an unsecured server. They also appear to show that Clinton’s then-scheduler, Lona Valmoro, forwarded Clinton’s daily Secretary of State schedule to top Clinton Foundation officials, along with a “number of favors” that were requested. In a May 10, 2010 email between Abedin and Band, Abedin said she “hooked up” people from the Russian American Foundation with the “right people” at the State Department. The Russia-American Foundation was then staffed by Clinton political supporters, according to Judicial Watch. Additional documents allegedly show that Chelsea Clinton emails, an email sent by Clinton to Abedin saying she did not wish to fly on the same plane with former First Lady Michelle Obama to Betty Ford’s funeral, and an email chain between Clinton staffers showing they drafted a “doctors statement” as to why Mrs. Clinton fainted due to “dehydration” causing her to hit her head and suffer a “concussion” in December 2012. Judicial Watch’s email shows that the same group, including Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, Jake Sullivan and Philippe Reines, prepared a discharge statement when she was released from the hospital. Fitton added: “No wonder Clinton’s allies in the State and Justice Departments had been slow-walking and hiding these emails.” Judicial Watch published the emails on their website. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/01/judicial-watch-obtains-new-classified-clinton-emails.html There's nothing there w/ regards to Trump. This entire puppet show is to give comfort and cover for Hillary, and her TRUE treasonous actions regarding Russia ( UraniumONE and pay for play ) as well as her covert dealings on her illegal SERVER - it's not just an ' account ', as Hillary tries to tell us.
Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:32 AM
Friday, June 30, 2017 1:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SHINY- PUTIN is doing everything he can to make Russia great again. Heck, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the Yeltsin years, Russia was in worse shape than "the west" after the 2008 crash, so it was a long slog upwards! But nobody is claiming that Russia is our "friend". In fact, I'm saying we should do many of the same things that Putin did ... pay down our debts, re-introduce manufacturing, tend to our cybersecurity, become more self-sufficient ... BECAUSE we need to be able to withstand the shocks that ANYBODY (Russia included) might deal us. So, thanks for putting words in my mouth, and in the mouths of a bunch of people. And now I'll return the favor: YOU dolts (yeah, you Hillary-supporters) want to do the opposite: Rack up debt, depend on imports, militarily intervene everywhere, and pretend to be just one giant happy international family - under corporate rule. Thanks for being a traitor. ----------- "Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck. I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
Friday, June 30, 2017 3:40 AM
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