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MOUNT BENTAL, Golan Heights — The Israeli military said Thursday that it had bombed dozens of Iran-linked military facilities in Syria, as tensions between the three countries soared.

The army said in a statement that its fighter jets had targeted Iranian intelligence and logistics sites around Damascus, as well as munition warehouses, observation and military posts.

The attacks followed a wave of overnight missile strikes directed at Israeli territory — all of them apparently intercepted — that Israel blamed on Iran.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-launches-massive-military-
strike-against-iranian-targets-in-syria/ar-AAx31tl?ocid=spartanntp

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
To be clear:
Go Israel!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR: Please "Edit thread" to add a title. (As the author of this thread you have the permissions to do so.) Look to the right of the thread, there is a "edit thread" button, click on that and it will allow you to add a title.

WITHOUT A TITLE, PEOPLE CANNOT ACCESS THIS THREAD DIRECTLY.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Iran denies firing missiles into the Golan Heights (which btw belongs to Syria). Since I, for one, don't see the benefit to Iran of taking such action, this may very well be a yet another false flag. Or not. I'm waiting for more credible sources than Israel and the MSM to weigh in.

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WITHOUT A TITLE, PEOPLE CANNOT ACCESS THIS THREAD DIRECTLY.

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WITHOUT A TITLE, PEOPLE CANNOT ACCESS THIS THREAD DIRECTLY.

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I had assumed most people knew this:
From any thread in RWED, select the Address in the field of your browser, "end" and then backspace until you can change the tid= to 62403.
But yes, not a direct clicky linky action.

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Iran denies firing missiles into the Golan Heights (which btw belongs to Syria). Since I, for one, don't see the benefit to Iran of taking such action, this may very well be a yet another false flag. Or not. I'm waiting for more credible sources than Israel and the MSM to weigh in.

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So, Ummm.
Syria launching missiles to land in the Golan Heights part of Syria?
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Syria launching missiles to land in the Golan Heights part of Syria?

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The way it looks so far, Israel launched rockets into Syria, some Syrian entity launched rockets into the (Israeli-occupied) Golan Heights, then Israel used that action to fire missiles into Syria. Still waiting to get a credible timeline.

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Iran denies firing missiles into the Golan Heights (which btw belongs to Syria).

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After 14 years of Syria ignoring it, Israel annexed it to provide adequate governance, in 1981.

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After 14 years of Syria ignoring it, Israel annexed it to provide adequate governance, in 1981.

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Nope. It's all about water: The Golan heights is one of the few reliable sources of water. Everybody in the Mideast knows that, even the Israelis.

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Syria launching missiles to land in the Golan Heights part of Syria?

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The way it looks so far, Israel launched rockets into Syria, some Syrian entity launched rockets into the (Israeli-occupied) Golan Heights, then Israel used that action to fire missiles into Syria. Still waiting to get a credible timeline.

Thanks for fixing the linky.

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OK. I didn't get that from the PMS link. Shocking that PMS wouldn't report the news accurately. Just shocking I say.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yes, let's back out of the Iran deal, and egg Israel on to do our dirty work for us.

I think this is being pushed forward 'cause NetanYahoooo has been approved to have corruption charges filed against him. So, best make haste.

And besides, who DOESN'T want a destabilized Middle East as a proxy war for nuclear powers?

So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons.
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/focus/iran
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/iran-adhering-to-nuclear-deal-wit
h-world-powers-un-watchdog-says/2017/08/31/cb408e7d-bc9a-4874-bbdf-001f919a8c86_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a76d645f960d

So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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/Originally posted by 1kiki:
Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons.
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/focus/iran
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/iran-adhering-to-nuclear-deal-wit
h-world-powers-un-watchdog-says/2017/08/31/cb408e7d-bc9a-4874-bbdf-001f919a8c86_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a76d645f960d

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Correct. That's why Obama gave them the money to restart their Nuclear Weapons procurement Program, and then crafted his notions to pave the way and ensure their place as Nuclear Power, and called it JCPOA.

Anybody who hated America and Israel, he was on their side and needed to support them.

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I had assumed most people knew this:
From any thread in RWED, select the Address in the field of your browser, "end" and then backspace until you can change the tid= to 62403.
But yes, not a direct clicky linky action.

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Syria launching missiles to land in the Golan Heights part of Syria?

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The way it looks so far, Israel launched rockets into Syria, some Syrian entity launched rockets into the (Israeli-occupied) Golan Heights, then Israel used that action to fire missiles into Syria. Still waiting to get a credible timeline.

Thanks for fixing the linky.

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OK. I didn't get that from the PMS link. Shocking that PMS wouldn't report the news accurately. Just shocking I say.

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How Good Is Russia's Missile Defense?

Israeli strikes on targets in Syria last week took out several Russian missile defense systems and raised questions about the viability of Moscow’s military equipment.

Israeli fighter jets had targeted Iranian bases in retaliation for Iranian strikes on the Golan Heights, and they also hit Russian missile defense equipment during the strike. The Russian missile defense system that was hit combines surface-to-air missiles and anti-aircraft artillery. But Israel’s military released videos of the strikes showing the Russian-made defense systems getting hit by the Israeli missiles.

Speaking to Russian television on Friday, Aytech Bizhev, a former Russian Air Force deputy commander-in-chief, defended the system by alleging that it was either out of ammunition or was disabled. He argued that the missile defense system would never have been hit if it were working properly.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-good-is-russias-missile-defen
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Moscow has long praised the advanced missile defense systems it has in place in Syria, and Russian officials have suggested that their systems could strike down any U.S. missiles lobbed into the country. Still, Russia and the U.S. have avoided coming to blows in Syria, even when Washington hit the targets of the Russian-backed Syrian government.

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“Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable;

When using our forces, we must seem inactive;

When we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away;

When far away, we must make him believe we are near.”

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Syria launching missiles to land in the Golan Heights part of Syria?

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The way it looks so far, Israel launched rockets into Syria, some Syrian entity launched rockets into the (Israeli-occupied) Golan Heights, then Israel used that action to fire missiles into Syria. Still waiting to get a credible timeline.

Thanks for fixing the linky.

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OK. I didn't get that from the PMS link. Shocking that PMS wouldn't report the news accurately. Just shocking I say.

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Sig you're not just a Russian troll, you're also a whack. - THUGR

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Somewhere, KIKI commented that it looks like Trump has delegated the anti-Iran campaign to Israel, which has caused Russia to back up (not give Syria S300s, not actively shoot Israeli jets out of the sky) in order to avoid a confrontation.

So I'm just going to pass along "Dave's" comments from his X22 report. In his view, the mideast is being actively divided up between Russia, the USA, Israel, and Iran. Russia will (he says) ask Iran to leave Syria, which will remove any excuse that Israel might use to bomb Syria, and Russia will protect the southern end of Syria itself. At the same time, Iraq will ask USA troops to leave, but Iranian troops presumably will stay in place. This answers Israel's security issues, at least as far as Iran is concerned. Qatar is nestled comfortably with Iranian gas interests, and still has a large American base on its soil.

I have no idea what Saudi Arabia's security issues will look like. As far as I can tell, Saudi Arabia is an aggressor state, but its real insecurity comes from its reliance on the petrodollar. It looks to me like MbS was trying to develop Saudi Arabia in a different direction; but I'm still not convinced that he survived the coup attempt.

If you want to hear what "Dave" thinks, you can listen for yourself. I should probably put this in the "predictions" thread, but ... oh well.

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Dood, did I say I BELIEVED what Dave says? It's time to get out the (mental) popcorn, put your emotions on ice, and just let this all sift into the "interesting if true" pile.

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Posting whacko shit and saying you didn't say you believed it yourself, is the same as Trump making false, bullshit and racist statements and saying he is only repeating someone else.

It's a way to deflect from the facts and is trolling comrade. It's done because you've already lost the argument and can't dispute the facts. Therefore, you post like a troll. And you post other trolls bullshit. Like zerohedge to name one. Dave's shit to name another.

tick tock dummy
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Is this delegation/division concept something new? Or has he been developing it for awhile? - JSF

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Any thoughts, by you or others, if this might result in less Middle East bloodshed?- JSF

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Is this delegation/division concept something new? Or has he been developing it for awhile? - JSF

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"Dave" has been saying this, or some version of it, for over a month. Another (related) thing that he's said about the Mideast is that Trump is dismantling CIA operations throughout: cutting funding for the so-called "moderate rebels" and White Helmets, allying with MbS - who pulled the rug out from under the entire CIA-friendly coterie in Saudi Arabia shortly after Trump's visit, and making such a political row with Pakistan that they no longer protect CIA's running Afghani opium thru their territory. I honestly can't remember everything that "Dave" says, but he is adamant that Trump is NOT a neocon, and that all of the kerfuffles are mere distractions and attempts to trace which deep state neocon is pulling who's political string.

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Supposedly yes. The most bloodshed comes in when there is a power vacuum. Saudi Arabia and the CIA and their jihadist proxies have been busy toppling governments throughout, but not able to establish new power structures. Once acceptable borders are drawn - for example, Iran withdraws from southern Syria (BTW there are talks going on between Iran and Israel right now) and the USA withdraws from Syria - then the Syrian government can get back to being a government under a new Constitutional structure (which is being discussed with the UN right now).

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I have heard many times that Middle East Muslims are disparately Tribal, and fully resist regional coordination or national Unity. Are these all expected to work together with coalition or Allied groups? Is there an explanation of this macrocosm model? It just seems too unbelievable to gel in my head without further understanding.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Redundant thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62404


Is titled:
Israel launches massive military strike against Iranian targets in Syria

But wait5 a minute....isn't the Libtard Big Tech media narrative that Syria and Iran are NOT colluding to make War on Israel?
An unintentional and accidental swerve into reality and fact, truth?

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Dood, did I say I BELIEVED what Dave says? It's time to get out the (mental) popcorn, put your emotions on ice, and just let this all sift into the "interesting if true" pile.

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Posting whacko shit and saying you didn't say you believed it yourself, is the same as Trump making false, bullshit and racist statements and saying he is only repeating someone else.

It's a way to deflect from the facts and is trolling comrade. It's done because you've already lost the argument and can't dispute the facts. Therefore, you post like a troll. And you post other trolls bullshit. Like zerohedge to name one. Dave's shit to name another.

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