Jeffrey Epstein, Billionaire Accused of Molesting, Is Charged with Human Trafficking of Minors by JAYNEZTOWN

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force"

Jeez, what took so long? And why didn't some other country get to him first? He was an obvious person to investigate.

And ... if anything that PN posted is any indication of how things go ... there's a lot of people who'd like to see Epstein definitively quiet. I wonder how nervous he is at the moment, not about the police, but about his 'clients'.

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Sunday, July 7, 2019 5:53 AM

Little Saint James, U.S. Virgin Islands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saint_James,_U.S._Virgin_Islands

The island is privately owned by American financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. There is a luxury estate on the Island and it is often used for conferences held by the Jeffrey Epstein VI Foundation, which sponsors cutting-edge science and medical research. Recent conferences have included topics such as gravity, language evolution and global threats to the Earth. Many notable scientists have attended the conferences, including Marvin Minsky, Gerard 't Hooft and Stephen Hawking.

The island hosts a helipad, a lagoon and cabanas. It also has a library, a Japanese bathhouse, and cinema

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jeffrey-epstein-billionaire-long-
accused-of-molesting-minors-is-charged/ar-AADX7RQ

Perv Dershowitz on Fox? the guy with the dead unknown wife? has been fighting to keep his skeletons from coming out related to Epstein.

In June 2008, after Epstein pleaded guilty to a single state charge of soliciting prostitution from girls as young as 14, he was sentenced to 18 months in prison. Instead of being sent to state prison like the majority of sex offenders convicted in Florida, Epstein was housed in a private wing of the Palm Beach County stockade. He was able to hire his own security detail and was allowed "work release" to his downtown office for up to 12 hours a day six days a week. He served 13 months before being released for a year of probation. While on probation he was allowed numerous trips on his corporate jet to his homes in Manhattan and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

2nd Circuit Orders Jeffrey Epstein Records Unsealed, Cautions Media and Public
https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2019/07/03/read-the-ruling-2nd-c
ircuit-orders-jeffrey-epstein-records-unsealed-cautions-media-and-public
Lolita Express and a Little Blackbook full of Blackmail ?

The degenerate criminal sleaze Pedocracy conspiracy is real? blackmail & crimes
Could be the first domino to topple in a whole line of filthy scum bags.
Epstein is a rich powerful creep and that's been known for a long time
Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for allegedly sex trafficking dozens of minors in New York and Florida between 2002 and 2005

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Sunday, July 7, 2019 5:53 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Maybe it'll stick this time, and he'll get more than a slap on the wrist.

I wonder if this fits in with what "Q" has been tweeting. There have been many rumors that the Trump was going to investigate sex trafficking by prominent Dems and use the developed information for some sort of mass roundup, starting with Bill and Hillary Clinton. Supposedly, Epstein was an Isreali asset and shared that blackmail material with Mossad, so if Epstein is taken down that kills one of the avenues of Israeli influence. I have no idea whether any of that it true, but I would keep it in mind as info develops to see whether or not pieces fit into those narratives.

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Sunday, July 7, 2019 9:47 AM

Anybody else find it funny that 9 hours after I post about Epstein's Island in the society as a narrative thread that this thread gets created?

And here I was thinking I made a joke and/or point that was culturally irrelevant in 2019.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 8, 2019 5:11 AM

Don't worry about it, it happpens all the time and people are exposed to hours of comments and adverts and news info each week. So much that you can not process it all you probably seen something subliminal in one of your news feeds a few days ago, something Maga, weiner pedo weinstein spacey, something free Republic like and it was in the back of your mind....then it dawns on you to tell some silly political joke, its difficult to count the level of info people are exposed to all the time, you see all this stuff without knowing it.

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Monday, July 8, 2019 5:14 AM

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hollywood is talking!

https://twitter.com/EllenBarkin

Epstein’s pimp girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, a very well-connected Brit socialite cannot just walk free. This woman is his pimp. She pilots planes to and from the island. I know because she told me. She is a sex trafficker.

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Monday, July 8, 2019 5:30 PM

WISHIMAY

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Anybody else find it funny that 9 hours after I post about Epstein's Island in the society as a narrative thread that this thread gets created?

I find it funny that you honestly believe that ANYONE hangs on your every word. It couldn't possibly be because all this crap is in the news...THAT YOU DON'T EVEN READ TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.

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Monday, July 8, 2019 5:36 PM

Yeah. Wishy's right. I probably didn't read it anywhere because I don't know how to read.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 9, 2019 2:57 AM

WISHIMAY

We know you CAN read about things, it's just easier to listen to shallow propaganda spewed directly into your ears.

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Tuesday, July 9, 2019 7:48 AM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
We know you CAN read about things, it's just easier to listen to shallow propaganda spewed directly into your ears.

... Said every MSNBC/CNN/FOX viewer ever.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:34 AM

It looks like the interwebs already had many of the rumors and gossip

a lot of this stuff reads very conspiracy, piratenews or elite weird dungeon x-files stuff

You got business people, high finance, political elites, celebrity entertainers, Jerusalem Israel connect, even the Royalty of Europe, all kinds in this mess and 'models' trafficked from all parts of the world

http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/alan-dershowitz-denies-sexual-as
sault-allegations.394571/

Attorneys for the woman, who is identified in federal court documents as Jane Doe #3, charged that Epstein forced her "to have sexual relations with Dershowitz on numerous occasions while she was a minor, not only in Florida but also on private planes, in New York, New Mexico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands." The woman also made allegations against Britain’s Prince Andrew, British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell and French model scout Jean Luc Brunel.

https://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=176797

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Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for allegedly sex trafficking dozens of minors in New York and Florida between 2002 and 2005, and will appear in court in New York on Monday, according to three law enforcement sources. The arrest, by the FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force, comes about 12 years after the 66-year-old financier essentially got a slap on the wrist for allegedly molesting dozens of underage girls in Florida.

For more than a decade, Epstein’s alleged abuse of minors has been the subject of lawsuits brought by victims, investigations by local and federal authorities, and exposés in the press. But despite the attention cast on his alleged sex crimes, the hedge-funder has managed to avoid any meaningful jail time, let alone federal charges.

US v. Jeffrey Epstein Indictment
https://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=2235975

Rachel Chandler's Background, Connections to NEXIVM, Standard Hotel, Marina Abramovich, modeling agencies, Epstein, Symbolism and Darkness

https://steemit.com/pedogate/@artistiquejewels/rachel-chandler-s-background-connections-to-nexivm-standard-hotel-marina-abramovich-modeling-agencies-epstein-symbolism-and

You can see her family history, people she is connected with and who she has photographed for and the modeling agencies she works with.

Besides Marina Abramovich and the Clintons as mentioned in part 1, she is also connected to people like Prince Andrew who is knows to have visited Epstein Island Several times and is good friends with Epstein.

Q drop from 2018

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You will see the story behind what led to this photo below. This is Not Rachel Chandler but rather Victoria Roberts whom Epstein molested and Epstein's girlfriend in the background, Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father was a former MP, Daily Mirror Proprietor and rumored to be a spy. His name was Robert Maxwell who drowned from his yacht prior to Ghislaine entering the scene with Epstein.
https://steemit.com/rachelchandler/@artistiquejewels/history-of-rachel-chandler-s-family-building-of-the-port-in-long-beach-epstein-connections-celebrity-pedogate-and-a-secret

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With Jeffrey Epstein locked up, these are nervous times for his friends, enablers
MIAMI — Jeffrey Epstein spent a second night in a New York jail cell Sunday, with a federal indictment expected to be unsealed Monday, charging him with sex offenses involving underage girls he and others allegedly trafficked in New York and Florida, sources have told the Miami Herald.

His Saturday arrest capped months of investigating, led by federal agents and prosecutors with the Southern District of New York’s Public Corruption Unit, assisted by investigators with the sex trafficking division. Although details of the case remain undisclosed, there are indications that others involved in his crimes could be charged or named as cooperating witnesses.

Among those potentially on the list: Ghislaine Maxwell, a 57-year-old British socialite and publishing heir who has been accused of working as Epstein’s madam; and Jean-Luc Brunel, who, according to court records, was partners with Epstein in an international modeling company.

Epstein, 66, was arrested at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey shortly before 4 p.m. Saturday, as he arrived on his private jet from Paris, where he had been vacationing since June 14, aviation records show. About an hour after they picked him up, federal agents arrived at his imposing Manhattan townhouse, breaking down the door to execute search warrants.
https://www.democraticunderground.org/100212256533

https://forums.thefashionspot.com/threads/the-sex-trafficking-model-sc
out.199843/
What a horrid, horrid bunch of men! It seems to me that Brunel and Epstein could be pals with Terry Richardson with the way they treat women. Honestly though, you hear stories of sex trafficking in Asia but not as much in America/ Latin America/ and Europe but as this story goes to show, this doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Jeffrey Epstein, 61, is a registered sex offender.

AP

“The encounter escalated, with defendant and Ms. Maxwell sexually assaulting, battering and abusing plaintiff in various ways and in various locations,” the suit says.
Afterward, Maxwell and Epstein “giddily” told her to come back the next day because she “had lots of potential,” the suit says.
They had her quit her job to become a full-time “masseuse,” the suit says, giving Epstein multiple “massages” per day at his various estates around the world.
“Often, plaintiff was joined by Ms. Maxwell, Ms. Maxwell's assistant, and or/a countless array of young women who would be brought to one of defendant's homes,” the suit says.
Court papers filed in federal court in Florida last month say Maxwell was the one who arranged for Roberts to have sexual trysts with Prince Andrew, who’s fifth in line for the British throne.
One of the three trysts took place in Maxwell’s London’s apartment, that filing says. The prince has denied the charges.
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?14491-Prince-Andre
w-is-named-in-quot-sex-slave-quot-ring/page3
The 2009 Florida federal courtsuit, which did not name Maxwell as a defendant, was settled for an undisclosed sum.

Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for allegedly sex trafficking dozens of minors in New York and Florida between 2002 and 2005, and will appear in court in New York on Monday, according to three law enforcement sources.

The arrest, by the FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force, comes about 12 years after the 66-year-old financier essentially got a slap on the wrist for allegedly molesting dozens of underage girls in Florida.

The new indictment—which, according to two sources, will be unsealed Monday in Manhattan federal court—will reportedly allege that Epstein sexually exploited dozens of underage girls in a now-familiar scheme: paying them cash for "massages" and then molesting or sexually abusing them in his Upper East Side mansion or his palatial residence in Palm Beach

Several of the billionaire's employees and associates allegedly recruited the girls for Epstein's abuse, and some victims eventually became recruiters themselves, according to law enforcement.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/breaking-news-billionaire-financ
ier-jeffrey-epstein-behind-bars-in-ny.2544134/

Strangely, the media have suddenly taken an intense interest in the case of pedophile and major Democratic donor Jeffrey Epstein.

In 2005, the Palm Beach police were told by the mother of a young girl in West Palm Beach that her daughter had been brought to the Democratic donor’s mansion and asked to have sex with him for money. This kicked off an intensive, one-year undercover investigation.

The police sifted through Epstein’s garbage and interviewed 17 witnesses, including the housemen, who told of sex toys and dildos left behind after the underage girls left. One of Epstein’s procurers, a 20-year-old local woman named Haley Robson, who was paid $200 for every teenaged girl she brought to Jeffrey, was cooperating with police, telling them she was like “Heidi Fleiss.” They obtained statements from five of Epstein’s young victims, who said they’d been paid $200 to $300 to engage in various sex acts with him. Police raided Epstein’s home, finding explicit photographs of teenaged girls, incriminating phone records — and one girl’s high school transcript.

http://www.flamewarriors.net/forum/index.php?thread/5963-jeffrey-epste
in-the-nuclear-option/&pageNo=4

“Wexner needs to immediately and forcefully distance himself from Epstein, personally and professionally, and condemn Epstein’s actions in no uncertain terms,” said Jonathan Bernstein, a crisis-management consultant, noting that the company should proactively come forward with a statement. “You can’t separate the Wexner name from L Brands. He’s the founder of the company. There’s no such thing as saying nothing.”
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/qanon.1406530/page-225#post-4816
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Tuesday, July 9, 2019 4:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
We know you CAN read about things, it's just easier to listen to shallow propaganda spewed directly into your ears.

Nilbog,

Misery.

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Tuesday, July 9, 2019 7:01 PM

WISHIMAY

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Nilbog,

Misery.

At least I don't live in Brain-damaged-rusty-genital-land with you

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Tuesday, July 9, 2019 7:30 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force"

Jeez, what took so long? And why didn't some other country get to him first? He was an obvious person to investigate.

The wheels of justice turn very slowly. A financial crime by Epstein from 1997 is being looked into starting in 2018:

A lawsuit filed in August of 2018 in the Southern District of New York by former Towers investors calls Epstein an “uncharged co-conspirator” by name. It also alleges that the $457 million in stolen investment was the seed capital for Epstein’s hedge fund, which it values at $50 billion. The suit says Epstein “knowingly and intentionally utilized funds he fraudulently diverted and obtained from this massive Ponzi scheme for his own personal use to support a lavish lifestyle.”

In 1997 Hoffenberg, the head of bill-collection firm Towers Financial, was sentenced to 20 years in jail for running one of the biggest Ponzi schemes in US history. Thousands of investors were bilked of over $450 million.

Epstein was deeply involved in the fraud, Hoffenberg told Quartz in a telephone interview. He was never charged in the case, but he was “totally in the mix,” Hoffenberg claims. Epstein helped him set up the Ponzi scheme, and was involved in the “crimes that I was charged with that are all over the internet.”

“He was my colleague daily, seven days a week,” Hoffenberg added.

Why didn’t this come up when Hoffenberg was charged, Quartz asked? “I pled guilty,” Hoffenberg said. “When you plead guilty you don’t go in for elaborate discovery.” Hoffenberg was released from prison in late 2013 after serving almost 20 years in jail. He still hasn’t paid back most of the money he took from investors, a demand the judge included in his original sentence.

https://qz.com/1661999/

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Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:16 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Acosta says that he was told to "leave it alone" because Epstein was part of intelligence. That might explain why Epstein routinely committed heinous crimes without ever doing serious time. Supposedly he frquently flew (in his private jet) to "hot spots" all over the world: Sundan, Ukraine, Georgia (the nation, not the state

) etc.

Yanno, when Trump was campaigning he spoke more than once about human trafficking, expecially of children. This scenario keeps popping up in my head: Trump was invited to Pleasure Island, saw what was going on, and (as Trump has a tendency to do) reacted viscerally and decided on the spot that he was going to do something about Epstein.

Anyway, all credit goes to Mike Cernovich who bird-dogged the original Epstein defamation settlement, which was entirely sealed (unheard of, for a civil case). If I understand it correctly, the lawsuit was brought by one of his victims whom he had defamed as a "prostitute". He spent 11 years and over $50,000 to get the records unsealed, and for several years was cyber-targeted and his family was threatened. Fortunately the Miami Herald eventually took up the cause, which wnet before a judge who decided just recently that the records should be unsealed.

The speculation is that this latest indictment of Epstein in a CYA move by various prosecutors because they knew that with the records unsealed all kinds of shit was going to come out and people were going to wonder why Epstien wasn't rotting in jail, like ten years ago already.

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Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:22 PM

I'm sure Epstein has dirt on so many high profile people it isn't funny.

I don't know how many of those kids on the island are actually legit, straight up kids though. Maybe none of them are?

16 years old and even younger is legal in some states in the US, even in 2019. I'm sure that on the island itself whatever is going on there is legal under that jurisdiction.

All of that being said, the legality of this behavior is not going to matter one iota in the court of public opinion. If the Clintons or Bushes or Obamas or even the Trumps had dealings down there and there is legit photographic or video proof of it, it's over for them.

I don't think Trump had any, like it is already pretty well known that the Clintons did. But it is possible.

I've actually thought that this is the very reason why NOW. If Trump or say, even Trump Jr. has any dirty laundry left back at pedophile island, that could almost certainly mean the end of Trump's 2020 landslide victory. Maybe those in charge at the DNC have decided since all else seems to be failing that maybe it's time to throw the Clintons and the Podestas under the bus to get the Big Fish.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 10, 2019 10:06 PM

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Wednesday, July 10, 2019 10:25 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

What would be funny is if Hillary did, too.

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Wednesday, July 10, 2019 10:31 PM

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Just Donald Trump, Jeff Epstein and 28 ‘calendar girls’

‘I have 28 girls coming... Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s. You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’

That’s what George Houraney, a Florida-based businessman, asked Trump back in 1992 about an event he had organized at the future president’s request, according to a report from the New York Times.

The exclusive “calendar girl” party at Mar-a-Lago was apparently even more exclusive than Houraney had expected when he put it together — Jeff Epstein, Trump and the girls. That’s it.

“I said, ‘Look, Donald, I know Jeff really well, I can’t have him going after younger girls,’” the party planner recalled in the interview. “He said, ‘Look I’m putting my name on this. I wouldn’t put my name on it and have a scandal.’”

Houraney, who accused Trump of inappropriate behavior toward his girlfriend shortly before the 2016 election, told the Times that he “pretty much had to ban Jeff from my events — Trump didn’t care about that.”

Clearly, Trump was a fan of Epstein in those days.

www.marketwatch.com/story/party-planners-surprise-just-donald-trump-je
ff-epstein-and-28-calendar-girls-2019-07-10

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 9:49 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

What would be funny is if Hillary did, too.

Less funny is that Trump labor secretary who cut Epstein deal plans to slash funds for sex trafficking victims.

Alex Acosta proposed 80% funding cut for US agency that combats child sex trafficking.

Acosta’s plan to slash funding of a critical federal agency in the fight against the sexual exploitation of children is contained in his financial plans for the Department of Labor for fiscal year 2020.

The bureau’s budget would fall from $68m last year to just $18.5m. The proposed reduction is so drastic that experts say it would effectively kill off many federal efforts to curb sex trafficking.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/09/labor-secretary-alexander-acos
ta-sex-trafficking-budget-cut

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:07 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

How is sex trafficking in the Department of Labor? I would have thought that enforcement, and budget, would be with various criminal investigation and prosecutorial entities ... District attorneys, police departments, and FBI (for interstate crimes) or ICE (for trafficking into our borders). Seems kind of an odd place for child sex trafficking investigations, since prostitution mostly isn't a legal form of "work" anyway and not covered by labor laws.

BTW, some of the things that the guy who arranged the "calendar girl" party didn't say, and I couldn't find any reference to, was 1) how old the girls were and 2) did any complaints of abuse result from that party?

This is just another hobby-horse that SECOND wants to ride.

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
How is sex trafficking in the Department of Labor? I would have thought that enforcement, and budget, would be with various criminal investigation and prosecutorial entities ... District attorneys, police departments, and FBI (for interstate crimes) or ICE (for trafficking into our borders). Seems kind of an odd place for child sex trafficking investigations, since prostitution mostly isn't a legal form of "work" anyway and not covered by labor laws.

BTW, some of the things that the guy who arranged the "calendar girl" party didn't say, and I couldn't find any reference to, was 1) how old the girls were and 2) did any complaints of abuse result from that party?

This is just another hobby-horse that SECOND wants to ride.

Are you ever going to stop being a 3-points Trump apologist? But Hillary would have already destroyed the world in a nuclear war, you said, which makes Trump's blunders forgivable.
www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63004&mid=1073399#
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Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:59 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Acosta's a piece of shit. At the very least he gets fired this week. If the DOJ indicts him for criminal conspiracy he'll deservedly go to prison. That is if the "so-called" DOJ ever gets off its ass with this and the Clinton-Obama FISA/conspiracy/spying case. Do they do anything anymore? Seems like all they do anymore is make speeches, go after small fish private citizens, and dine out at the finest D.C. restaurants on the taxpayers' dime. On with the indictments, arrests, perp walks, handcuffs, hands covering faces, etc., etc.

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:00 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Are you ever going to stop being a 3-points Trump apologist?

That's ASSUMING that there's even something to defend.
You've made an awful lot of bad assumptins lately SECONDRATE. And yes, I'm going to keep shoving that in your face.
But you know what they say about assumptions: When you "assume" you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:30 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Acosta's a piece of shit. At the very least he gets fired this week. If the DOJ indicts him for criminal conspiracy he'll deservedly go to prison.

Huh. what do you know that we don't? Do tell!

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:31 AM

What I find sad is the figure of $68 million dollars to go after those trafficking children.

No wonder why they're so bad at doing that job. The government spends $5 million dollars for a single cup of coffee.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Are you ever going to stop being a 3-points Trump apologist?

That's ASSUMING that there's even something to defend.
You've made an awful lot of bad assumptins lately SECONDRATE. And yes, I'm going to keep shoving that in your face.
But you know what they say about assumptions: When you "assume" you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".

I'm only "assuming" Trump wants to be Dictator for Life. He tweeted this morning:

"When I ultimately leave office in six years, or maybe 10 or 14 (just kidding) . . . "
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149345681829744647

This is not the first time Trump has indicated that he’s interested in staying in office for more than two terms. He’s said he does so to troll the media, but given his open admiration for dictators abroad and repeated efforts to undermine the rule of law at home, his jokes about becoming president for life really aren’t funny.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/10/18535212/trump-2020-pelosi-l
ose-leave-office

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:04 PM

Yeah. It's hard for me to argue against that point.

Context is everything when it comes to humor, and I do enjoy the way that Trump continually trolls and owns the MSM on a daily basis.

But that's not a funny joke.

There are plenty of other ways to get Anderson Cooper's panties in a twist.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:44 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. It's hard for me to argue against that point.

Context is everything when it comes to humor, and I do enjoy the way that Trump continually trolls and owns the MSM on a daily basis.

But that's not a funny joke.

There are plenty of other ways to get Anderson Cooper's panties in a twist.

Would it really kill Trump to not fuck up? Trump's Wednesday tweet on the Iran nuclear deal contained three inaccurate, correction false, claims:

"Iran has long been secretly 'enriching,' in total violation of the terrible 150 Billion Dollar deal made by John Kerry and the Obama Administration. Remember, that deal was to expire in a short number of years."

Facts First: All three parts of this tweet are wrong.
1) International nuclear monitors and Trump's own intelligence officials say Iran complied with the agreement's limits on its enrichment activities.
2) Trump exaggerated the amount of money Iran gained access to because of the agreement.
3) And he mischaracterized the deal by saying the whole thing would soon "expire."

Let's go through Trump's fucked up claims one by one at
www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/politics/fact-check-trump-wrong-iran-enrichment
/index.html

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 2:04 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

The media says JUMP! and SECOND says 'how high and when can I come down?'

SECOND doesn't have a thought in its brain, otherwise it would notice it hasn't typed RUSSIA-INCOMETAX-BROWNIMMIGRANTS in this entire thread.

Nope, no brain. All SECOND has is a propaganda feed linked to a keyboard.

BTW, the last time SECOND got this desperate (obsessively, verbosely propagandist) was then I raised doubts about Hillary's fitness for office, the DNC's ethics, and the entire democratic party's aims and methods over the years. It's like SECOND wants to singlehandedly stem the national tide right here, on this little website. Perhaps the polls that show Trump winning, or that his job approval has gone up, have rattled its little cage. Or the cage of the propagandists, of whom SECOND is a member.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 2:49 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
The media says JUMP! and SECOND says 'how high and when can I come down?'

SECOND doesn't have a thought in its brain, otherwise it would notice it hasn't typed RUSSIA-INCOMETAX-BROWNIMMIGRANTS in this entire thread.

Nope, no brain. All SECOND has is a propaganda feed linked to a keyboard.

BTW, the last time SECOND got this desperate (obsessively, verbosely propagandist) was then I raised doubts about Hillary's fitness for office, the DNC's ethics, and the entire democratic party's aims and methods over the years. It's like SECOND wants to singlehandedly stem the national tide right here, on this little website. Perhaps the polls that show Trump winning, or that his job approval has gone up, have rattled its little cage. Or the cage of the propagandists, of whom SECOND is a member.

1kiki, you have lost your dinky mind. Trump is trying to see whether he can keep Acosta on. (Acosta defends his plea deal with Epstein.) Which brings us to the new revelations about Trump and how he survived the “Access Hollywood” tape.

Politico Magazine has published an excerpt from a forthcoming book about Trump and the GOP by journalist Tim Alberta. In it, Alberta reports the following:

After the tape became public, scores of top Republican lawmakers, donors and activists — far more than did so publicly — privately urged then-Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus to push Trump out and replace him with Vice President Pence at the top of the ticket. This included then-House Speaker Paul Ryan.

Pence hunkered down and prayed with his wife, Karen, who furiously warned him that she would no longer appear in public if Pence remained Trump’s running mate. Pence hinted to advisers that he might have to stop campaigning with Trump.

But the key revelation is what happened next. At the next debate with Hillary Clinton, Trump ferociously attacked back, blasting Bill Clinton’s history with women and even threatening to unleash law enforcement on Hillary Clinton, saying that with him as president, Clinton would “be in jail.”

Alberta recounts what then transpired:

"Within 48 hours the bleeding had stopped: Republicans ceased their calls for his withdrawal, Pence dutifully returned to the stump and his campaign went on as though nothing had happened."

With this, Trump displayed a remarkable, if perhaps instinctual, grasp of how to survive in today’s GOP. What rescued Trump was going ferociously on the attack, which crucially included threatening to put the "real" enemy in prison.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/10/new-disclosures-about-lewd-
trump-video-reveal-his-mastery-gop/

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 5:02 PM

JONGSSTRAW

Acosta's a piece of shit because he gave a rich politically connected serial rapist and underage girls trafficker a sweetheart deal for only 13 month in jail. Epstein should have gotten at least 12-20 years like any other pedophile sex trafficker would have. Now the full scope of the crimes are becoming public due to more victims providing new details of their enslavement. That makes Acosta's actions and reasons for securing his unprecedented, unholy, and sickeningly lenient deal urgently subject to a criminal conspiracy investigation.

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 5:04 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

The media says JUMP! and SECOND says 'how high and when can I come down?'

SECOND doesn't have a thought in its brain, otherwise it would notice it hasn't typed RUSSIA-INCOMETAX-BROWNIMMIGRANTS in this entire thread.

Nope, no brain. All SECOND has is a propaganda feed linked to a keyboard.

BTW, the last time SECOND got this desperate (obsessively, verbosely, off-topic and hyper-partisan) was then I raised doubts about Hillary's fitness for office, the DNC's ethics, and the entire democratic party's aims and methods over the years. It's like SECOND wants to singlehandedly stem the national tide right here, on this little website. Perhaps the polls that show Trump winning, or that his job approval has gone up, have rattled its little cage.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Are you ever going to stop being a 3-points Trump apologist?

That's ASSUMING that there's even something to defend.
You've made an awful lot of bad assumptins lately SECONDRATE. And yes, I'm going to keep shoving that in your face.
But you know what they say about assumptions: When you "assume" you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".
I'm only "assuming" Trump wants to be Dictator for Life. He tweeted this morning:

"When I ultimately leave office in six years, or maybe 10 or 14 (just kidding) . . . "
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149345681829744647

This is not the first time Trump has indicated that he’s interested in staying in office for more than two terms. He’s said he does so to troll the media, but given his open admiration for dictators abroad and repeated efforts to undermine the rule of law at home, his jokes about becoming president for life really aren’t funny.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/10/18535212/trump-2020-pelosi-l
ose-leave-office

Did you Trolls also believe Bobo when he said the same thing about not leaving office after 8 years?

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Friday, July 12, 2019 6:46 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Did you Trolls also believe Bobo when he said the same thing about not leaving office after 8 years?

Are you making that up? I will show you how to do that more convincingly: One of Epstein's alleged victims said in a court affidavit obtained by the AP that she saw future President Donald Trump on the island but never witnessed him having sex with anyone.

www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epsteins-private-island-of-sin-and-sex-doll
s-5-weird-details-to-know

To be convincing, show where the make believe rumor came from. In this case, from Fox News.

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Friday, July 12, 2019 9:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Did you Trolls also believe Bobo when he said the same thing about not leaving office after 8 years?

Are you making that up?

I had the same question.

I'd like to know if Obama ever actually said this, even jokingly.

If he didn't, JSF wasn't the one that made it up. I do remember quite a few times during the insane election of 2016 quite a bit of fearmongering that Obama was going to possibly have a third indefinite term, possibly by executive order.

Do you have any proof that Obama himself or anybody high profile enough to matter around him hinted at it?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 12, 2019 4:41 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did you Trolls also believe Bobo when he said the same thing about not leaving office after 8 years?
Are you making that up?
I had the same question.

I'd like to know if Obama ever actually said this, even jokingly.

If he didn't, JSF wasn't the one that made it up. I do remember quite a few times during the insane election of 2016 quite a bit of fearmongering that Obama was going to possibly have a third indefinite term, possibly by executive order.

Do you have any proof that Obama himself or anybody high profile enough to matter around him hinted at it?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You probably have a point - those FAKE NEWS Specialists at CNN Live With Wolf Blitzer are always fabricating video interviews with the Stuttermonkey-in-Chief.
All reasonable people knew for 8 years that he was incapable of Following the Law, Abiding The Constitution, so nobody was too surprised, this was just more of the same from this Twit.

https://www.burrardstreetjournal.com/obama-refusing-to-leave-if-trump-
elected/

President Obama Confirms He Will Refuse To Leave Office If Trump Is Elected
By
the Burrard Street Journal
President Obama refusing to leave if Trump is elected.
President Obama refusing to leave if Trump is elected.

Barack Obama has sensationally told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that he will NOT vacate the Oval office if Donald J. Trump is elected the 45th President of the United States.

The current president claims he is “fully prepared” to ignore the popular vote if it means stopping Trump, having found what he believes is a little known loophole that would allow him to remain in charge until a re-election is called.

“As president, I must do what I feel is in the best interests of our nation,” he explained. “If the American people elected ‘the Donald’ then I will be forced to take whatever actions I deem necessary.”

When asked by the CNN anchor if he would remain in charge, Obama’s response was firm. “I am not standing down as president if it means four years of President Trump,” he said categorically.

The president was asked what exact lengths he would go to, to prevent the billionaire from being sworn in on January, 20th, 2017. “I am prepared to file a motion of ‘no confidence’ in our citizens thereby taking their vote away from them,” he confessed.

“Wait, you’re willing to impeach the American people as voters?” a possibly stunned Blitzer asked. “Yes, if necessary,” the President responded. “I cannot allow him into this chair, with his finger so close to the button. The power would go to his head immediately.”

Obama even suggested he will barricade himself and his family inside the White House if it means stopping the Trump family from taking up residency there. “I’ve instructed the Secret Service to use full force in defending the White House from the Trump family. Joe has already expressed his willingness to die multiple times in order to keep them out of here.”

When questioned by Howard Stern, Trump seemed unconcerned by the President’s stance. “Don’t worry, we’ll get some of the second amendment people to sort him out pretty quickly.”

On the other hand....
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-refusing-leave-office/
story?id=44575517

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Quitting because of Epstein, Mr. Alex Acosta is the 14th Cabinet member to depart from the Trump White House.

At the same point in presidencies, departures:

Bush: 1
Obama: 0
Trump: 14

This means that two-thirds of Trump’s cabinet has been fired or resigned since he took office (14 out of 22). Remember back in the day, when the problem with government was simple: presidents kept hiring idiots and Trump was going to fix that by hiring only the best people? I guess he’s still looking for those people.

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1149719176975544320

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Friday, July 12, 2019 8:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did you Trolls also believe Bobo when he said the same thing about not leaving office after 8 years?
Are you making that up?
I had the same question.

I'd like to know if Obama ever actually said this, even jokingly.

If he didn't, JSF wasn't the one that made it up. I do remember quite a few times during the insane election of 2016 quite a bit of fearmongering that Obama was going to possibly have a third indefinite term, possibly by executive order.

Do you have any proof that Obama himself or anybody high profile enough to matter around him hinted at it?

Do Right, Be Right. :)
You probably have a point - those FAKE NEWS Specialists at CNN Live With Wolf Blitzer are always fabricating video interviews with the Stuttermonkey-in-Chief.
All reasonable people knew for 8 years that he was incapable of Following the Law, Abiding The Constitution, so nobody was too surprised, this was just more of the same from this Twit.

https://www.burrardstreetjournal.com/obama-refusing-to-leave-if-trump-
elected/

President Obama Confirms He Will Refuse To Leave Office If Trump Is Elected
By
the Burrard Street Journal
President Obama refusing to leave if Trump is elected.
President Obama refusing to leave if Trump is elected.

Barack Obama has sensationally told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that he will NOT vacate the Oval office if Donald J. Trump is elected the 45th President of the United States.

The current president claims he is “fully prepared” to ignore the popular vote if it means stopping Trump, having found what he believes is a little known loophole that would allow him to remain in charge until a re-election is called.

“As president, I must do what I feel is in the best interests of our nation,” he explained. “If the American people elected ‘the Donald’ then I will be forced to take whatever actions I deem necessary.”

When asked by the CNN anchor if he would remain in charge, Obama’s response was firm. “I am not standing down as president if it means four years of President Trump,” he said categorically.

The president was asked what exact lengths he would go to, to prevent the billionaire from being sworn in on January, 20th, 2017. “I am prepared to file a motion of ‘no confidence’ in our citizens thereby taking their vote away from them,” he confessed.

“Wait, you’re willing to impeach the American people as voters?” a possibly stunned Blitzer asked. “Yes, if necessary,” the President responded. “I cannot allow him into this chair, with his finger so close to the button. The power would go to his head immediately.”

Obama even suggested he will barricade himself and his family inside the White House if it means stopping the Trump family from taking up residency there. “I’ve instructed the Secret Service to use full force in defending the White House from the Trump family. Joe has already expressed his willingness to die multiple times in order to keep them out of here.”

When questioned by Howard Stern, Trump seemed unconcerned by the President’s stance. “Don’t worry, we’ll get some of the second amendment people to sort him out pretty quickly.”

On the other hand....
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-refusing-leave-office/
story?id=44575517

I've never heard of the burrardstreetjournal before, but that story reads like classic The Onion material.

I'm going to say that the likelihood that it's true is right around the likelihood that the Trump tweet in the story is true:

Which is to say, it's all pretty funny, but I don't think any of this actually happened.

I hope nobody calls me a hypocrite for laughing at that and can see the difference here. I'm 100% in favor of parody, no matter who's spoofing who. I just don't think that a political figure should be making any jokes about things of this nature.

And yes, buarrardstreet is parody. I figured it out before typing that last paragraph. The front page of the site is hilarious just by the article titles alone.

It's hard to tell the difference between satire and news these days. Really, it is...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

It's hard to tell the difference between satire and news these days. Really, it is...

The Epstein case is a reminder of the depraved milieu from which our president sprang.

On Monday, Donald Trump disinvited the then-British ambassador, Kim Darroch, from an official administration dinner with the emir of Qatar, because he was mad about leaked cables in which Darroch assessed the president as “insecure” and “incompetent.”

There was room at the dinner, however, for Trump’s friend Robert Kraft, owner of the New England Patriots, who was charged in a prostitution sting this year. Kraft was allegedly serviced at a massage parlor that had once been owned by Li Yang, known as Cindy, a regular at Trump’s club Mar-a-Lago. Yang is now the target of an F.B.I. inquiry into whether she funneled Chinese money into Trump’s political operation.

This weekend, Trump National Doral, one of the president’s Florida clubs, planned to host a fund-raiser allowing golfers to bid on strippers to serve as their caddies. Though the event was canceled when it attracted too much attention, it’s not surprising at all that it was approved in the first place.

A stripper auction is tame by the standard of gross Trump stories. It’s worth reviewing a few lowlights, because it’s astonishing how quickly the most lurid misdeeds fade from memory, supplanted by new degradations.

Acosta, you’ll remember, got his job because Trump’s previous pick, Andrew Puzder, withdrew following the revelation that his ex-wife had appeared on an Oprah episode about “High Class Battered Women.”

The White House staff secretary Rob Porter resigned last year after it was revealed that both of his ex-wives had accused him of abuse.

The White House speechwriter David Sorensen resigned after his ex-wife came forward with stories of his violence toward her.

And just this week, a senior military officer came forward to accuse Gen. John Hyten, Trump’s nominee to be the next vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of derailing her career when she turned down his sexual advances. “My life was ruined by this,” she told The Associated Press.

E. Jean Carroll, a well-known writer, accused Trump of what amounted to a violent rape in the mid-1990s, and two friends of hers confirmed that she’d told them about it at the time. In response, Trump essentially said she was too unattractive to rape — “No. 1, she’s not my type.”

Since Epstein’s arrest, many people have wondered how he was able to get away with his alleged crimes for so long, given all that’s publicly known about him. But we also know that the president boasts about sexually assaulting women, that over a dozen have accused him of various sorts of sexual misconduct, and one of them has accused him of rape. We know it, and we know we can’t do anything about it.

Trump seems to understand that the effect of this cavalcade of scandal isn’t cumulative. Instead, each one eclipses the last, creating a sense of weary cynicism that makes shock impossible to sustain.

www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/opinion/acosta-epstein-trump.html

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Friday, July 12, 2019 9:32 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Yep, SECOND is DESPERATE to wash away the Epstein / Clinton connections in a tide of bullshit.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 3:50 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yep, SECOND is DESPERATE to wash away the Epstein / Clinton connections in a tide of bullshit.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

I agree. I'd say it would be interesting to to see how SECOND spins this, except we have several thousand examples of that already.

Hey SECONDRATE, how does it feel to be so out of touch with reality?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 7:19 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yep, SECOND is DESPERATE to wash away the Epstein / Clinton connections in a tide of bullshit.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

I agree. I'd say it would be interesting to to see how SECOND spins this, except we have several thousand examples of that already.

Hey SECONDRATE, how does it feel to be so out of touch with reality.

I remember Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky perfectly well. I remember Bill lying to Congress, on TV, then getting impeached. I think he should have been removed. If he had, V.P. Al Gore would have been President and, very likely, Governor George Bush would not have been elected running against President Gore. Bush gave plenty of indication while he was governor of Texas that he was too stupid and dishonest to be President. Without Bush, there would have been no Iraq War, the second one that was lost at a cost of trillions of dollars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_cost_of_the_Iraq_War#Indirect_
and_delayed_costs

Like Bush, Trump's history was evidence he should not be elected President, and not just for 6 years of bungling the Texas governorship, but for 40 years as a crook and sex criminal. Do you want to know Trump's history?

The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474
726/
Trump has a raft of allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct lodged by women in multiple places, from different eras.

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 8:43 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Jeffrey Epstein, Billionaire Accused of Molesting, Is Charged with Human Trafficking of Minors

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 9:19 AM

Right?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Jeffrey Epstein, Billionaire Accused of Molesting, Is Charged with Human Trafficking of Minors

Labor Secretary Alex Acosta’s resignation Friday amid the mushrooming Jeffrey Epstein investigation made him the latest in a growing list of President Donald Trump’s Cabinet members to depart under a cloud of scandal, plunging his administration into further upheaval.

Trump announced Acosta’s departure in a morning appearance together on the South Lawn. The president expressed regret over Acosta’s decision, calling him a “great labor secretary” and saying he had reassured the secretary that “you don’t have to do this.”

“It was him, not me,” Trump said.

www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Acosta-resigns-as-labor-secretar
y-amid-scrutiny-14090843.php

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

Can you be sure, 1kiki, that Republicans are no worse than Democrats? Really sure?

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Right?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

That Bush had a history as a bungling governor of Texas, and therefore should not have been President? Right.

That Trump had a history as a crooked businessman/sexual harasser and should not be President? Right.

The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474
726/

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 12:32 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Yep, SECOND is DESPERATE to wash away the Epstein / Clinton connections in a tide of bullshit.- KIKI

I agree. I'd say it would be interesting to to see how SECOND spins this, except we have several thousand examples of that already.

Hey SECONDRATE, how does it feel to be so out of touch with reality? - SIGNY

I remember Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky perfectly well. I remember Bill lying to Congress, on TV, then getting impeached. I think he should have been removed. If he had, V.P. Al Gore would have been President and, very likely, Governor George Bush would not have been elected running against President Gore. Bush gave plenty of indication while he was governor of Texas that he was too stupid and dishonest to be President. Without Bush, there would have been no Iraq War, the second one that was lost at a cost of trillions of dollars. - SECOND

You turn everything, and I mean everything, into your personal hobby-horse: bitching about Texas Republicans, Republicans in general, Trump and Trump voters, and - when all else fails - Americans in general including (gasp!) Democratic Presidents - just so you an expiate your feelings of guilt?

You never do ANALYSIS. You never think about POLICY. If you turn every event into a reason to beat your chest like some Pharisee (Maybe if I use a Biblical reference you'll understand what I mean) then you're clearly ignoring 99.9999% of what's going on which... btw... has nothing to do with you and your sense of guilt and feelings of betrayal.

Now, I don't know for sure but I think this will be ANOTHER psyop that will bite you in the ass.

And if that happens to be the case, would you use THIS moment to ask yourself why you were so very very wrong ... AGAIN? Or will you continue on your merry way, bumbling thru reality with both eyes closed?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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