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Justin Trudeau Resigns

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Monday, January 6, 2025 12:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Good riddance.

This was a long time coming. One more correct prediction under my belt.

Fuck you Justin.

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Monday, January 6, 2025 1:10 PM

BRENDA


Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year.

I will hear all about it on the news tonight.

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Monday, January 6, 2025 2:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I know a lot of truck drivers and freedom lovers in Canada are going to be celebrating tonight.

I hope you get a better replacement too, Brenda. It shouldn't be hard to do with the bar set that low.

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Monday, January 6, 2025 3:05 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


51st State or British Colony

predictions threads?

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

This was a long time coming. One more correct prediction under my belt.



Everyone predicted this, he's been in power almost forever so you are not allowed take credits on this one


you often slag Thuggr for open predictions with no date...so its against your own rules


There was a novel and period drama

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Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over rocks from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. Under the rocks are the words, and some of the words are theirs.
I am haunted by waters.



Norman Maclean

A River Runs Through It


Did that MAGA Trump guy ask for the removal? or was it the Monarchy in England rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?
Do the French have much say anymore...seems France has almost gone extinct like the Dinosaurs maybe the real French will survive extinction around Quebec...Ontario to the west, Newfoundland and Labrador to the northeast.
maybe Oil and Yukon was calling the shots, it is the smallest and westernmost of Canada's three territories, important trade with Alaska it is the most densely populated of the three territories, Conservatism matches the Liberal-Left leaving them powerless, there is a rise of populism the Yukon Freedom Party supporting Truckers, Yukon premier Sandy Silver has suggested that the party's existence has exerted considerable pressure on the Yukon Party, its possible other radical right and radical left could rise according to new media, or maybe more First Nations style Party come and go.


don't worry just vote



and at the end of it all you don't have free speech, they are British Monarchy 'subjects' without the same rights as US Citziens and Liberal Party of Canada LPC in the House of Commons 153 / 338

like Sweden, Canada went very left, its demographics might have changed but in Canada
the cold and the rain and snow perhaps keeps many gangs and hoodrats and trash from hanging around the streets



Team A vs Team B fight so
Bloc Québécois / New Democratic / Green can be king makers?



He's been in politics all of his life and a force since the 2008 federal election, he has done far more for "Felquistes" and Quebec break away Nationalism than any other leader since the rise of radical left and right groups of the 1960s Canada, and 1970s
Stephen Harper let Canada stagnate under Conservatives then came Trudeau winning an election,
but while Trudeau had a strong win he would help the rise of Conservative, New Democratic, Bloc Québécois, Green, foreign waves of Ethno-Nationalism invaders the Hindi or Hindu Temples and Sikh Singh clashing with Canadian politis causing international incidents, more islamists and drugs would cross the US Canada Border, he was hated and disrespected by Trump.

There are new boys in town to replace the soft Pierre Poilievre there is now People's Party of Canada, REICH, it is placed from the far far right the far-rightwing far far-rights. Bernier campaigned on smaller government, lower taxes....how scary...did Adolf Hitler want to lower taxes?

Churches continue to burn as the pushed the Narrative that Christians were still genocide Native Americans
a continued series of church arsons and suspicious fires after gossip was pushed across media, which damaged or destroyed multiple different faiths of Christian churches in Canada.
Chief Greg Gabriel of the Penticton Indian Band expressed "anger" at the fires, stating that any act of arson was "unacceptable".
Harsha Walia, the executive director of the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association responded to reports of fires at indigenous Catholic parishes with a tweet that read "burn it all down".
she has islamist jihadi heritage nobody is sure, born in Bahrain to parents of Punjabi ancestry.
She studied law at the University of British Columbia and supports arson terror attacks.

Remember all the insanity, the cosplaying Cowboy to Oriental to islamo Mohammedan to Hindu Guru...he liked to comic-con dress up and him calling Truckers racists and sexists, ordering war horses charge down old women and then clapping an Ex-Nazi in parliament


Aussie news


Donald Trump ‘despises’ Justin Trudeau

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Monday, January 6, 2025 3:21 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by Brenda:
Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilievre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year.

I will hear all about it on the news tonight.

What to know about Canada's opposition leader Pierre Poilievre

By Ivana Saric | Jan 6, 2024

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/06/canada-opposition-leader-pierre-poili
evre


Poilievre was quick to weigh in on the political fracas surrounding Trudeau, writing in a post on X Monday that Liberals wanted to "trick voters by swapping in another Liberal face to keep ripping off Canadians."

"The only way to fix what Liberals broke is ... to elect common sense Conservatives," he added.

While Poilievre's policies echo those of President-elect Trump, they notably diverge from Trump's MAGA goals regarding immigration. While Trump has repeatedly vilified immigrants and promised mass deportations, Poilievre has insisted that the "Conservative party is pro-immigration."

What is his relationship to Trump? While Poilievre is open to working with Trump, the Canadian politician has stopped short of fully embracing him. In response to Trump's repeated suggestions that Canada could become America's 51st state, Poilievre vowed last month that such a thing would "never happen."

*****************

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Pierre Poilievre, Canada's Trump-inspired conservative leader

Like the US president-elect, the Canadian Conservative Party leader casts himself as a victim of the elites and the media, calls for lower taxes and likes to use insults. He is poised to challenge Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in the 2025 election.

By Eliott Dumoulin | November 22, 2024

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/m-le-mag/article/2024/11/22/pierre-poilievre
-canada-s-trump-inspired-conservative-leader_6733728_117.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, January 6, 2025 4:04 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Good riddance.

This was a long time coming. One more correct prediction under my belt.

Fuck you Justin.

Alex Christoforou of The Duran https://m.youtube.com/@AlexChristoforou would chalk it up to "The Zelensky Curse". World leaders who go to Kiev and hug Zelensky wind up being booted from office before term end. It's happened in Britain three times (BoJo, Truss, Sunak... and looks like Starmer soon to follow), Germany (Scholz), USA (Kamala), and now Trudeau.

It's a fun meme, and I know Alex is gonna run with it.

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Monday, January 6, 2025 4:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Chrystia Freeland, rabid anti-Russian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, quit Trudeau's wildly unpopular government Dec 17, 2024.
https://apnews.com/article/finance-minister-chrystia-freeland-resigns-
trudeau-a8355a62870edd962fee8138dc6bfc77

She was widely considered the brains behind woke, globalist, boy-puppet Trudeau.

Not knowing Canadian politics, IDK if her resignation caused Trudeau to quit, or if it was a "rats leaving a sinking ship" indication of a government already falling apart.

"Why is Trudeau so unpopular?" search result

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/justin-trudeau-unpopular-canada-prime-m
inister-3464282




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Monday, January 6, 2025 5:23 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year.

I will hear all about it on the news tonight.

How do you see Poilivre?

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Monday, January 6, 2025 6:33 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year.

I will hear all about it on the news tonight.

How do you see Poilivre?

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I see Poilievre as almost a Republican in your sense. He's too far right for my taste.

At least we have at least three Premiers that he won't want to really deal with and that is Doug Ford, who has threatened to shut down electricity to the states bordering us.
2nd could be David Eby, who is the Premier of my province. You need our soft wood for building. This has been a bone of contention since I was a kid. US puts tariffs on it then we retaliate. Back and forth.
3rd could be the Premier of Alberta Danielle Smith. Oil and gas rich Alberta, which is sold to the US. Even though she is a Conservative like Doug Ford, she might put up a fight.

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Monday, January 6, 2025 6:35 PM

BRENDA


As mentioned in an article up the thread. The Liberals have 90days with which to select a new leader before a Federal election can be called. So by Summer, I would think we will be heading to the polls.

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Monday, January 6, 2025 9:48 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year.

I will hear all about it on the news tonight.

SIGNY:
How do you see Poilivre?


BRENDA:

I see Poilievre as almost a Republican in your sense. He's too far right for my taste.



I hope you'll tell me more about this.

Is he fiscally conservative? i.e. wanting to cut the national budget? If so, does he have his axe sharpened for health care? Or any other particular program?

Is he socially conservative? i.e. wanting to get back to "old fashioned values" of man-eoman marriage?

Is he nationalistic? "Canada for Canadians?" Anti-immigrant? Against first nations heritage?

Is he economically conservative? Full-on pro- industry and commodity extraction, global warming and environmental concerns be damned?

Is he isolationist? Withdraw from the rest of the world?

How does he view the USA under Trump? Potential partner? Frenemy?

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At least we have at least three Premiers that he won't want to really deal with and that is Doug Ford, who has threatened to shut down electricity to the states bordering us.
2nd could be David Eby, who is the Premier of my province. You need our soft wood for building. This has been a bone of contention since I was a kid. US puts tariffs on it then we retaliate. Back and forth.
3rd could be the Premier of Alberta Danielle Smith. Oil and gas rich Alberta, which is sold to the US. Even though she is a Conservative like Doug Ford, she might put up a fight.

Always interested in learning about our great neighbor to the north!

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Monday, January 6, 2025 11:56 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year.

I will hear all about it on the news tonight.

SIGNY:
How do you see Poilivre?


BRENDA:

I see Poilievre as almost a Republican in your sense. He's too far right for my taste.



I hope you'll tell me more about this.

Is he fiscally conservative? i.e. wanting to cut the national budget? If so, does he have his axe sharpened for health care? Or any other particular program?

Is he socially conservative? i.e. wanting to get back to "old fashioned values" of man-eoman marriage?

Is he nationalistic? "Canada for Canadians?" Anti-immigrant? Against first nations heritage?

Is he economically conservative? Full-on pro- industry and commodity extraction, global warming and environmental concerns be damned?

Is he isolationist? Withdraw from the rest of the world?

How does he view the USA under Trump? Potential partner? Frenemy?

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At least we have at least three Premiers that he won't want to really deal with and that is Doug Ford, who has threatened to shut down electricity to the states bordering us.
2nd could be David Eby, who is the Premier of my province. You need our soft wood for building. This has been a bone of contention since I was a kid. US puts tariffs on it then we retaliate. Back and forth.
3rd could be the Premier of Alberta Danielle Smith. Oil and gas rich Alberta, which is sold to the US. Even though she is a Conservative like Doug Ford, she might put up a fight.

Always interested in learning about our great neighbor to the north!

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Don't think he has mentioned cutting programs in the national budget. But he could try and ramp up our military spending. I'm just not sure the Canadian economy could handle that without maybe taking a bite out of something.

He doesn't hit me as socially conservative but I haven't heard him speak in campaign mode. Yet. So have to see on that one.

Trudeau had scaled back immigration before he resigned and Poilievre could cut it back more. First Nations have a grand council and grand chief who deals with Ottawa and that has always been contentious and he could make that more so.

In the last years there have been deals over pipe lines for oil like Key Stone. That he was against but that more to do with what the government paid for the line.

He might try to pull us back from somethings, like say Ukraine.

He has said that he sees the USA under Trump as a potential partner.

Okay, lets call Poilievre Republican-lite until the election and I can get a better handle on what he actually thinks.

Ford is from Ontario and states like Wisconsin and Michigan get a lot of energy from there. So, he could put the brakes on it and water.

Eby as I said is from my province of BC and a lot of our soft wood goes down there. When we put prices up on the wood, down there a tariff is placed on it then we find something from the US to put a tariff on. I've been watching this since I was child. Back and forth, like a ping pong match.

Now, I should point out that I don't like Danielle Smith because she is a Conservative and I think she is making a mess out of Alberta in my eyes. She wanted to cut health care in Alberta and was ready to battle Ottawa over it. All the provinces can do with healthcare payments from Ottawa is decide what it is used on. Anyway I digress and I have a soft spot for Alberta. My dad was from there. Oil and gas from Alberta is sold in the US, so she too could turn off the taps.

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Monday, January 6, 2025 11:59 PM

BRENDA


Political pundits on the news tonight were saying Spring for the election. So that leaves less than 90days for a new Liberal leader to be picked. Already people are throwing their hats into the ring.

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Tuesday, January 7, 2025 3:27 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year.

I will hear all about it on the news tonight.

SIGNY:
How do you see Poilivre?


BRENDA:

I see Poilievre as almost a Republican in your sense. He's too far right for my taste.



I hope you'll tell me more about this.

Is he fiscally conservative? i.e. wanting to cut the national budget? If so, does he have his axe sharpened for health care? Or any other particular program?

Is he socially conservative? i.e. wanting to get back to "old fashioned values" of man-eoman marriage?

Is he nationalistic? "Canada for Canadians?" Anti-immigrant? Against first nations heritage?

Is he economically conservative? Full-on pro- industry and commodity extraction, global warming and environmental concerns be damned?

Is he isolationist? Withdraw from the rest of the world?

How does he view the USA under Trump? Potential partner? Frenemy?

Quote:

At least we have at least three Premiers that he won't want to really deal with and that is Doug Ford, who has threatened to shut down electricity to the states bordering us.
2nd could be David Eby, who is the Premier of my province. You need our soft wood for building. This has been a bone of contention since I was a kid. US puts tariffs on it then we retaliate. Back and forth.
3rd could be the Premier of Alberta Danielle Smith. Oil and gas rich Alberta, which is sold to the US. Even though she is a Conservative like Doug Ford, she might put up a fight.

Always interested in learning about our great neighbor to the north!



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BRENDA
Don't think he has mentioned cutting programs in the national budget. But he could try and ramp up our military spending. I'm just not sure the Canadian economy could handle that without maybe taking a bite out of something.

I can't imagine why he'd want to increase military spending. Unless he's trying to protect Canada's southern border from those horrible loudmouth Americans who keep sneaking over.


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nHe doesn't hit me as socially conservative but I haven't heard him speak in campaign mode. Yet. So have to see on that one.

Trudeau had scaled back immigration before he resigned and Poilievre could cut it back more. First Nations have a grand council and grand chief who deals with Ottawa and that has always been contentious and he could make that more so.

That could be a problem. Here in the states, the Federal government has a history of taking resources away from indigenes. Even today, if something (shale oil, right of way) valuable is found on native land. I hope that doesnt happen there.

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In the last years there have been deals over pipe lines for oil like Key Stone. That he was against but that more to do with what the government paid for the line.
what do you think about pipelines transporting (what I assume is) tar sands oil? I've read that alot of farmers and ranchers are against them bc tar sands have a lot of sulfur in them, and leaking H2S has sickened herds.

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He might try to pull us back from somethings, like say Ukraine.
I certainly hope so. I'm not sure OUR budget can stand the expense. Seems not a good deal for Canada either.

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He has said that he sees the USA under Trump as a potential partner.
That might be naive. Trump is for Trump and the USA. I can't imagine Trump "partnering" with anyone except Israel. Likely to be a one-way relationship.

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Okay, lets call Poilievre Republican-lite until the election and I can get a better handle on what he actually thinks.
Cool! Let me know, if you got the time. I'm always curious (my family says "nosy") about whassup.

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*Ford is from Ontario and states like Wisconsin and Michigan get a lot of energy from there. So, he could put the brakes on it and water."
I remember his brother. Wild and crazy, and high on cocaine they say. I hope THIS Ford is a little calmer!

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Eby as I said is from my province of BC and a lot of our soft wood goes down there. When we put prices up on the wood, down there a tariff is placed on it then we find something from the US to put a tariff on. I've been watching this since I was child. Back and forth, like a ping pong match.
Huh! I never knew!
I know wood prices have gone up hugely since Covid. Same price increase up there?

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Now, I should point out that I don't like Danielle Smith because she is a Conservative and I think she is making a mess out of Alberta in my eyes. She wanted to cut health care in Alberta and was ready to battle Ottawa over it. All the provinces can do with healthcare payments from Ottawa is decide what it is used on. Anyway I digress and I have a soft spot for Alberta. My dad was from there. Oil and gas from Alberta is sold in the US, so she too could turn off the taps.
Yeah, I guess bc of Trump's threatened tariffs, Canadian pols and looking for a way to hurt USA back.

Yanno, Canada is a lot like Russia: bountiful resources, not overpopulated. Even better: well developed infrastructure and educated people.

Unfortunately too tied into USA trade, finance, and politics. And with the USA having gone nuts over the past 30 years or so ... and probably continuing to thrash around for the foreseeable future ... Canada just gets pulled into all the craziness. Picking a fight with China. Ukraine. Real estate speculation. Woke-ism. At least you're not hemorrhaging money into Israel, and trying to maintain a world empire and currency hegemony. AND, YOU HAVE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE!


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Tuesday, January 7, 2025 4:41 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
51st State or British Colony

predictions threads?

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

This was a long time coming. One more correct prediction under my belt.



Everyone predicted this, he's been in power almost forever so you are not allowed take credits on this one.




I can assure you that neither Ted nor Second predicted this.

It makes no difference when he came to power. It only makes a difference when I first said it, which was well after Joe Biden* was President. It was during peak covid, after he was freezing truck driver's bank accounts and ruining their lives because they dared disobey his word.

It also makes no difference if "everybody" predicted that he was going to resign or get booted either. Everybody knew that Deadpool and Wolverine was going to be a hit this year, but I take credit with that easy 2024 movie prediction along with the hard ones too. And speaking of movies, I know a lot of guys who have been saying that it's Kathleen Kennedy's final days at Disney more than twice as long as I said Tredeau was done.

And the difference between Ted's half-a-dozen concurrent "Tick Tock" threads is that Ted has never had a correct prediction out of any of them, despite some of them being 5 and 6 years old. What's worse with those is that until they all failed, they were all being regularly bumped up to the top all that time too.

My prediction for this thread? It fades off the top page within a week, only to ever return to the top if Justin makes the news years from now and you necropost it to the top.

In fact, I would have posted this in the thread where I initially predicted that Tredeau was gone, but I wouldn't have a clue if that was on page 2 or page 250 or how many times that you've necroposted it since I initially made it. I don't get to use that "feature" of the website anymore because you broke it.



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Tuesday, January 7, 2025 4:44 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Chrystia Freeland, rabid anti-Russian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, quit Trudeau's wildly unpopular government Dec 17, 2024.
https://apnews.com/article/finance-minister-chrystia-freeland-resigns-
trudeau-a8355a62870edd962fee8138dc6bfc77

She was widely considered the brains behind woke, globalist, boy-puppet Trudeau.

Not knowing Canadian politics, IDK if her resignation caused Trudeau to quit, or if it was a "rats leaving a sinking ship" indication of a government already falling apart.

"Why is Trudeau so unpopular?" search result

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/justin-trudeau-unpopular-canada-prime-m
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Yeah....

I think we're about to find out a whole lot more about this stuff.

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Tuesday, January 7, 2025 1:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year.

I will hear all about it on the news tonight.

SIGNY:
How do you see Poilivre?


BRENDA:

I see Poilievre as almost a Republican in your sense. He's too far right for my taste.



I hope you'll tell me more about this.

Is he fiscally conservative? i.e. wanting to cut the national budget? If so, does he have his axe sharpened for health care? Or any other particular program?

Is he socially conservative? i.e. wanting to get back to "old fashioned values" of man-eoman marriage?

Is he nationalistic? "Canada for Canadians?" Anti-immigrant? Against first nations heritage?

Is he economically conservative? Full-on pro- industry and commodity extraction, global warming and environmental concerns be damned?

Is he isolationist? Withdraw from the rest of the world?

How does he view the USA under Trump? Potential partner? Frenemy?

Quote:

At least we have at least three Premiers that he won't want to really deal with and that is Doug Ford, who has threatened to shut down electricity to the states bordering us.
2nd could be David Eby, who is the Premier of my province. You need our soft wood for building. This has been a bone of contention since I was a kid. US puts tariffs on it then we retaliate. Back and forth.
3rd could be the Premier of Alberta Danielle Smith. Oil and gas rich Alberta, which is sold to the US. Even though she is a Conservative like Doug Ford, she might put up a fight.

Always interested in learning about our great neighbor to the north!



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BRENDA
Don't think he has mentioned cutting programs in the national budget. But he could try and ramp up our military spending. I'm just not sure the Canadian economy could handle that without maybe taking a bite out of something.

I can't imagine why he'd want to increase military spending. Unless he's trying to protect Canada's southern border from those horrible loudmouth Americans who keep sneaking over.


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nHe doesn't hit me as socially conservative but I haven't heard him speak in campaign mode. Yet. So have to see on that one.

Trudeau had scaled back immigration before he resigned and Poilievre could cut it back more. First Nations have a grand council and grand chief who deals with Ottawa and that has always been contentious and he could make that more so.

That could be a problem. Here in the states, the Federal government has a history of taking resources away from indigenes. Even today, if something (shale oil, right of way) valuable is found on native land. I hope that doesnt happen there.

Quote:

In the last years there have been deals over pipe lines for oil like Key Stone. That he was against but that more to do with what the government paid for the line.
what do you think about pipelines transporting (what I assume is) tar sands oil? I've read that alot of farmers and ranchers are against them bc tar sands have a lot of sulfur in them, and leaking H2S has sickened herds.

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He might try to pull us back from somethings, like say Ukraine.
I certainly hope so. I'm not sure OUR budget can stand the expense. Seems not a good deal for Canada either.

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He has said that he sees the USA under Trump as a potential partner.
That might be naive. Trump is for Trump and the USA. I can't imagine Trump "partnering" with anyone except Israel. Likely to be a one-way relationship.

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Okay, lets call Poilievre Republican-lite until the election and I can get a better handle on what he actually thinks.
Cool! Let me know, if you got the time. I'm always curious (my family says "nosy") about whassup.

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*Ford is from Ontario and states like Wisconsin and Michigan get a lot of energy from there. So, he could put the brakes on it and water."
I remember his brother. Wild and crazy, and high on cocaine they say. I hope THIS Ford is a little calmer!

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Eby as I said is from my province of BC and a lot of our soft wood goes down there. When we put prices up on the wood, down there a tariff is placed on it then we find something from the US to put a tariff on. I've been watching this since I was child. Back and forth, like a ping pong match.
Huh! I never knew!
I know wood prices have gone up hugely since Covid. Same price increase up there?

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Now, I should point out that I don't like Danielle Smith because she is a Conservative and I think she is making a mess out of Alberta in my eyes. She wanted to cut health care in Alberta and was ready to battle Ottawa over it. All the provinces can do with healthcare payments from Ottawa is decide what it is used on. Anyway I digress and I have a soft spot for Alberta. My dad was from there. Oil and gas from Alberta is sold in the US, so she too could turn off the taps.
Yeah, I guess bc of Trump's threatened tariffs, Canadian pols and looking for a way to hurt USA back.

Yanno, Canada is a lot like Russia: bountiful resources, not overpopulated. Even better: well developed infrastructure and educated people.

Unfortunately too tied into USA trade, finance, and politics. And with the USA having gone nuts over the past 30 years or so ... and probably continuing to thrash around for the foreseeable future ... Canada just gets pulled into all the craziness. Picking a fight with China. Ukraine. Real estate speculation. Woke-ism. At least you're not hemorrhaging money into Israel, and trying to maintain a world empire and currency hegemony. AND, YOU HAVE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE!


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We have been trying to shore up the border for a while. People trafficking through Canada into the US. There is a whole lot of areas that can be done because of no patrols.

Well, we are still far behind what NATO wants in our spending. So that will be the justification.

Taken resources away from First Nations has been tried up here and sometimes they have been lucky in court and the judge has sided with the Nation who brought the case. Reservations like down there are Federal land but in this day and age that doesn't fly anymore.

There have been leaks from the oil being transported from the tar sands for sure. And it wasn't just farmers protesting it was also First Nations. Pipelines go through their territories. And no I don't like the idea of pipelines either as there are dangerous from a spill. Rail isn't any safer which is why Danielle Smith has fought to stop Green projects in Alberta.

We sell old weapons to Ukraine. They are usable once we make sure. We almost make armoured vehicles for them. Those contracts for right now are signed and sealed. Don't think he can back out of them.

I know it is naive to take Trump at his word and M. Poilievre better learn that fast. I will let you know.

This Ford is much calmer and has apparently all ready joked we should buy Alaska from you.

Don't know about wood prices. I would have to check. But yeah as I live in BC and my dad used to watch the news all the time and me with him. I learned this as I said as a kid. Every few years back and forth.

It is because of his tariffs. And looking to hurt the US while be on the table. That was being discussed even before Trudeau resigned.

It is beautiful and lots of no and where here too.

And yeah we are tied to you in lots of ways and the craziness does get up here and that irritates me to no end. I don't like that we are caught up in your mess at times. Gotta love our National Health care. Trudeau brought in a National Dental plan that I may qualify for. Just have to check it out.

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Tuesday, January 7, 2025 2:37 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just as an aside: One of my other Canadian friends grew up in Rainy River, ONT. Seems like now they're trying to control the border by putting up gates at the border crossing, but also seems hardly worthwhile with miles and miles of (beautiful) forest on either side


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Tuesday, January 7, 2025 5:46 PM

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Just as an aside: One of my other Canadian friends grew up in Rainy River, ONT. Seems like now they're trying to control the border by putting up gates at the border crossing, but also seems hardly worthwhile with miles and miles of (beautiful) forest on either side


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Haven't heard that but we don't get all the news that happens in the east out west.

We had someone jump the border in a stolen pick up truck. This was at the Peace Arch crossing. The truck was stolen down in Oregon, think the news said. Started a police chase but the guy was caught on Canadian soil. Police haven't figured out what he was trying to do.

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Tuesday, January 7, 2025 6:32 PM

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New fence along undefended U.S.-Canada border will deter smuggling, says official


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Tuesday, January 7, 2025 7:23 PM

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It's nice that Canada gets to have healthcare because the US spends all its money on military.

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Wednesday, January 8, 2025 1:50 PM

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It's nice that Canada gets to have healthcare because the US spends all its money on military.

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SIX, our healthcare system is older than me. It was created by Tommy Douglas and he was the head of what would become the NDP. It was slow to spread across the country but everyone agreed it was a good thing.

Without it my mum wouldn't have survived her first bout with cancer. She couldn't have afforded the surgery or the chemo after.

I wouldn't be either. Surgery and hospital combined would have wiped my mum out. I was in there 3 weeks.

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Wednesday, January 8, 2025 2:38 PM

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Healthcare cost 1/100th of what it does today before you were born. There is no other expense that has risen even close to how much above inflation healthcare has increased since 1980.

This wasn't a dig at Canada specifically. This is a dig at every Western World country that gets to do things like Universal Healthcare while looking down at America because they don't have to fund any meaningful military with the US playing world police.

It's frustrating. We need to stop doing that.

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