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A Fifth of American Adults Can’t Read.
Saturday, May 3, 2025 1:15 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Saturday, May 3, 2025 2:16 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: https://www.thefp.com/p/a-fifth-of-american-adults-cant-read-i-teach-them 48 million adults in the U.S. read at or below the third-grade level. Ted is one of them.
Saturday, May 3, 2025 2:22 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Saturday, May 3, 2025 2:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: https://www.thefp.com/p/a-fifth-of-american-adults-cant-read-i-teach-them 48 million adults in the U.S. read at or below the third-grade level. Ted is one of them.geez. An entire article which struggles to finally discover, in the end, that Libtards are stupid, and failures, and Public School Teachers are incompetent, along with Department of Education. ... Any reasonable rational person already knew the answer in the final paragraphs before reading the first paragraph. But the author had to explain how stupid she was to keep following Libtard principles.
Saturday, May 3, 2025 2:49 PM
Quote: To understand why reading education is such a mess, we have to go back a hundred years. Before the Progressive Era, students were taught to read via the phonetic code; they learned that letters on a page represent sounds, and that sounds can be blended together to make words. The genius of this method is that it allows you to read any word, even Italian ones or nonsense ones in Dr. Seuss’s books. But the academic innovators of the 20th century considered this method dry, and they started coming up with new methods. Instead of bothering with the dreary task of learning the phonetic code, they suggested, students could jump right into the joy of reading by just memorizing whole words. This philosophy gave us the look-say method, exemplified by the 1940s Dick and Jane books, in which kids would encounter the same word again and again, memorize its shape, and then be able to read it. The sentences, such as “Look, Jane. Look, look,” weren’t exactly scintillating. But the more pressing issue was that it’s not possible to memorize enough words to become even a minimally fluent reader. The look-say method didn’t last, but the whole-word approach to reading morphed into a new incarnation: whole language. This 1980s philosophy dictated that the teacher should take a back seat, minimizing explicit instruction and simply immersing the student in rich language and literature. The idea was that learning to read was as natural as learning to speak.... Also, I wholeheartedly believed in the progressive approach to education. I disliked tests and textbooks. The idea of the teacher wielding knowledge and power over the passive student was anathema to me, an approach better suited to Republicans and authoritarians and nuns.
Saturday, May 3, 2025 2:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yes, Ted is probably one of them. That could be why he depends on cartoons and videos so much. Yanno, I think we employed somebody who couldn't read. He was a friend of a friend, and homeless. I used to wonder why he was homeless. He wasn't on drugs, not an alcoholic, seemed pretty sharp and managed to survive a very rough situation intact. (He eventually got supported housing.) Well, one of his buddies from the old neighborhood got him a job up in Idaho, maintaining an RV campground. It was a sweet deal: in his skill set, new sets of clothes and dental work, a small RV to live in, cash in his pocket. Beautiful place, from the pictures he sent. But it all went sour when wife of owner wanted a daily written narrative of the work he'd been doing. He got all huffy, told me "I'm not gonna be doing that shit" and quit. I thought "Wow! That's an extreme case of ornerniness" But I started puzzling over some other events too, like the time I drove him to a facility where he could take test for forklift operator's license (he clearly knew how to operate one) and he bonked the test. We also gave him our used car ... shabby, but nice running ... but he couldn't, or wouldn't take the written driver's license test. "I'm no good with that shit". We lost track of him after the Idaho fiasco, and it wasn't until a few years later that it occurred to me that maybe he couldn't read. He might have been one of those severely dyslexic kids who slipped thru the system before dyslexia was ever noticed and before special teaching techniques were devised to overcome it. He went thru school when phonetics was still a thing, so whole word/balanced approach wasn't the problem. I have to chalk it up to dyslexia.
Saturday, May 3, 2025 3:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: https://www.thefp.com/p/a-fifth-of-american-adults-cant-read-i-teach-them 48 million adults in the U.S. read at or below the third-grade level. Ted is one of them.geez. An entire article which struggles to finally discover, in the end, that Libtards are stupid, and failures, and Public School Teachers are incompetent, along with Department of Education. ... Any reasonable rational person already knew the answer in the final paragraphs before reading the first paragraph. But the author had to explain how stupid she was to keep following Libtard principles.That's why I thought it was a really good article. Because it illustrated that struggle before the ultimate revelation that the way she'd been taught to teach was the wrong way all along. She had to re-teach herself after unlearning all those poisonous methods that the Department of Education has used for generations to make us collectively dumber. Though I don't believe she's made the leap to the fact that this was all intentional and I doubt she ever will, she realized at the very least that the way she had been taught to teach kids was ineffective at best and life-ruining at worst. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Saturday, May 3, 2025 6:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: https://www.thefp.com/p/a-fifth-of-american-adults-cant-read-i-teach-them 48 million adults in the U.S. read at or below the third-grade level. Ted is one of them.geez. An entire article which struggles to finally discover, in the end, that Libtards are stupid, and failures, and Public School Teachers are incompetent, along with Department of Education. ... Any reasonable rational person already knew the answer in the final paragraphs before reading the first paragraph. But the author had to explain how stupid she was to keep following Libtard principles.That's why I thought it was a really good article. Because it illustrated that struggle before the ultimate revelation that the way she'd been taught to teach was the wrong way all along. She had to re-teach herself after unlearning all those poisonous methods that the Department of Education has used for generations to make us collectively dumber. Though I don't believe she's made the leap to the fact that this was all intentional and I doubt she ever will, she realized at the very least that the way she had been taught to teach kids was ineffective at best and life-ruining at worst. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul SimonSure. I did not want to rain on your parade, so I did not post in my reply that it felt like uber lame clickbait for Libtard level readers. But, in this day of tiktok addicts, maybe uber lame clickbait is the only way to get Libtards to read an article - and maybe learn something, for once. Then they might let their kids learn phonics - as long as CA hasn't still banned any teaching method that works. Timeline Math, anybody? No wonder kids can't math without a calculator. I suspect Dept of Education has all kinds of anti-learning systems that I am not even aware of. Also, it was not only herself, but every Libtard teaching professional was wrong, incompetent, a failure, and happily so.
Sunday, May 4, 2025 3:58 AM
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