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Kamala Harris for President

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Friday, November 1, 2024 7:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Sure. Whatever.

He doesn't even need to do any more rallies. He's already won the election.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Your signature "He will also be your next President" declared since last year that Trump already won. Why do women need to vote when the election is already decided? Why would women not vote for Trump? Because he is a rapist? Maybe for more recent reasons:

Trump Fantasizes About Shooting Female Rival in the Face

The former president talked to Tucker Carlson about putting Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad.

Updated Nov. 1 2024 6:35AM EDT

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fantasizes-about-liz-cheney-facing
-the-firing-squad
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 1, 2024 10:20 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

When are we going to talk abiut more interesting stuff?

Trump isn't "the" problem. We've had problems long before Trump, and unless we get on the ball, we'll have problems long after.

What are our interests? How can we achieve them?
What are our problems? How can we solve them?






Looking at the already voted numbers I see. Not looking good at all for Trump. He's already crying foul. Bidens President now and democrats have lawyers already engaged to yes, stop the steal.

As for moving on to other topics, we will. When Kamala wins his trials begin again. First up, being sentenced for committing 34 felonies. Trust me, we will have lots to talk about.

tick tock tick tock

T


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Friday, November 1, 2024 11:54 AM

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The Strongman Fantasy (text and audio)
And Dictatorship in Real Life

Timothy Snyder | Nov 01, 2024

https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-strongman-fantasy-text-and-audio

Quite a few Americans like the idea of strongman rule. Why not a dictator who will get things done?

I lived in eastern Europe when memories of communism were fresh. I have visited regions in Ukraine where Russia imposed its occupation regime. I have spent decades reading testimonies of people who lived under Nazi or Stalinist rule. I have seen death pits, some old, some freshly dug. And I have friends who have lived under authoritarian regimes, including political prisoners and survivors of torture. Some of the people I trusted most have been assassinated.

So I think that there is an answer to this question.

Strongman rule is a fantasy. Essential to it is the idea that a strongman will be your strongman. He won't. In a democracy, elected representatives listen to constituents. We take this for granted, and imagine that a dictator would owe us something. But the vote you cast for him affirms your irrelevance. The whole point is that the strongman owes us nothing. We get abused and we get used to it.

Another pleasant illusion is that the strongman will unite the nation. But an aspiring dictator will always claim that some belong and others don't. He will define one group after another as the enemy. This might feel good, so long as you feel that you are on the right side of the line. But now fear is the essence of life. The politics of us-and-them, once begun, never ends.

We dream that a strongman will let us focus on America. But dictatorship opens our country to the worst the world has to offer. An American strongman will measure himself by the wealth and power of other dictators. He will befriend them and compete with them. From them he will learn new ways to oppress and to exploit his own people.

At least, the fantasy goes, the strongman will get things done. But dictatorial power today is not about achieving anything positive. It is about preventing anyone else from achieving anything. The strongman is really the weak man: his secret is that he makes everyone else weaker.

Unaccountable to the law and to voters, the dictator has no reason to consider anything beyond his own personal interests. In the twenty-first century, those are simple: dying in bed as a billionaire. To enrich himself and to stay out of prison, the strongman dismantles the justice system and replaces civil servants with loyalists.

The new bureaucrats will have no sense of accountability. Basic government functions will break down. Citizens who want access will learn to pay bribes. Bureaucrats in office thanks to patronage will be corrupt, and citizens will be desperate. Quickly the corruption becomes normal, even unquestioned.

As the fantasy of strongman rule fades into everyday dictatorship, people realize that they need things like water or schools or Social Security checks. Insofar as such goods are available under a dictatorship, they come with a moral as well as a financial price. When you go to a government office, you will be expected to declare your personal loyalty to the strongman.

If you have a complaint about these practices, too bad. Americans are litigious people, and many of us assume that we can go to the police or sue. But when you vote a strong man in, you vote out the rule of law. In court, only loyalism and wealth will matter. Americans who do not fear the police will learn to do so. Those who wear the uniform must either resign or become the enforcers of the whims of one man.

Everybody (except the dictator and his family and friends) gets poorer. The market system depends upon competition. Under a strongman, there will be no such thing. The strongman's clan will be favored by government. Our wealth inequality, bad enough already, will get worse. Anyone hoping for prosperity will have to seek the patronage of the official oligarchs. Running a small business will become impossible. As soon as you achieve any sort of success, someone who wants your business denounces you.

In the fantasy of the strongman, politics vanishes and all is clear and bright. In fact, a dreary politics penetrates everything. You can't run a business without the threat of denunciation. You can't get basic services without humiliation. You feel bad about yourself. You think about what you say, since it can be used against you later. What you do on the internet is recorded forever, and can land you in prison.

Public space closes down around you. You cannot escape to the bar or the bowling alley, since everything you say is monitored. The person on the next stool or in the next lane might not turn you in, but you have to assume they will. If you have a t-shirt or a bumper sticker with a message, someone will report you. Even if you just repeat the dictator's words, someone can lie about you and denounce you. And then, if you voted for the strongman, you will be confused. But you should not be. This is what you voted for.

Denunciation becomes normal behavior. Without law and voting, denouncing others helps people to feel safe. Under strongman rule, you cannot trust your colleagues or your friends or even your family. Political fear not only takes away all public space; it also corrupts all private relationships. And soon it consumes your thoughts. If you cannot say what you think, you lose track of what you believe. You cease to be yourself.

If you have a heart attack and go to the hospital, you have to worry that your name is on a list. Care of elderly parents is suddenly in jeopardy. That hospital bed or place in a retirement home is no longer assured. If you draw attention to yourself, aged relatives will be dumped in the street. This is not how America works now, but it is how authoritarian regimes always work.

In the strongman fantasy, no one thinks about children. But fear around children is the essence of dictatorial power. Even courageous people restrain themselves to protect their children. Parents know that children can be singled out and beaten up. If parents step out of line, children lose any chance of going to university, or lose their jobs.

Schools collapse anyway, since a dictator only wants myths that justify his power. Children learn in school to denounce one another. Each coming generation must be more tame and ignorant than the prior one. Time with young children stresses parents. Either your children repeat propaganda and tell you things you know are wrong, or you worry that they will find out what is right and get in trouble.

In a dictatorship, parents no longer say what they think to their children, because they fear that their children will repeat it in public. And once parents no longer speak their minds at home, they can no longer create a trusting family. Even parents who give up on honesty have to fear that their children will one day learn the truth, take action, and get imprisoned.

Once this process begins, it is hard to stop. At the present stage of the strongman fantasy, people imagine an exciting experiment. If they don't like strongman rule, they think, they can just elect someone else the next time. This misses the point. If you help a strongman come to power, you are eliminating democracy. You burn that bridge behind you. The strongman fantasy dissolves, and real dictatorship remains.

Most likely you won’t be killed or be required to kill. But amid the dreariness of life under dictatorship is dark responsibility for others’ death. By the time the killing starts, you will know that it is not about unity, or the nation, or getting things done. The best Americans, betrayed by you when you cast your vote, will be murdered at the whim and for the wealth of a dictator. Your tragedy will be living long enough to understand this.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 1, 2024 12:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

When are we going to talk abiut more interesting stuff?

Trump isn't "the" problem. We've had problems long before Trump, and unless we get on the ball, we'll have problems long after.

What are our interests? How can we achieve them?
What are our problems? How can we solve them?


THGR: Looking at the already voted numbers I see. Not looking good at all for Trump. He's already crying foul. Bidens President now and democrats have lawyers already engaged to yes, stop the steal.

As for moving on to other topics, we will. When Kamala wins his trials begin again. First up, being sentenced for committing 34 felonies. Trust me, we will have lots to talk about.

tick tock tick tock



Do you honestly believe that IF Kamala wins and IF Trump is thrown in jail for the rest of his life, our problems will just somehow end?

I don't think you're THAT stupid, THUGR.

Yanno, I wouldn't mind a Kamala* win. She'd* be nailed to all of the problems that the globalists, financialists, and neocons- thru the agency of the DNC and captured media - have stuck us with over the past 8+ years.

It would be great, watching them flail around with recession and inflation, military defeat, political and currency isolation... cranking up censorship and disinformation and memory-holing and repression up to 11 and watching you* slowly break your brain into imbecility, molding your mind into the shape-of-the-day.

But I don't want that for us. Or even you. After the elections, no matter how it turns out, I hope you come out of your hyperpartisan mania and turn into a person.



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Friday, November 1, 2024 12:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The numbers are fine, Ted, and the only ones crying are you guys.



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Friday, November 1, 2024 12:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Sure. Whatever.

He doesn't even need to do any more rallies. He's already won the election.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Your signature "He will also be your next President" declared since last year that Trump already won. Why do women need to vote when the election is already decided? Why would women not vote for Trump? Because he is a rapist? Maybe for more recent reasons:

Trump Fantasizes About Shooting Female Rival in the Face

The former president talked to Tucker Carlson about putting Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad.

Updated Nov. 1 2024 6:35AM EDT

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fantasizes-about-liz-cheney-facing
-the-firing-squad
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




It was your suggestion that I make this my signature, so you've had to read that over and over again for over a year every time I made a post because of that.

If you'll remember, that was my reply to all of Ted's and your posts about how Trump was going to jail.

The first half of my signature has already come true. In 4 days the other half comes true.

Tick Tock



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Friday, November 1, 2024 1:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Sure. Whatever.

He doesn't even need to do any more rallies. He's already won the election.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Your signature "He will also be your next President" declared since last year that Trump already won. Why do women need to vote when the election is already decided? Why would women not vote for Trump? Because he is a rapist? Maybe for more recent reasons:

Trump Fantasizes About Shooting Female Rival in the Face

The former president talked to Tucker Carlson about putting Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad.

Updated Nov. 1 2024 6:35AM EDT

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fantasizes-about-liz-cheney-facing
-the-firing-squad
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




It was your suggestion that I make this my signature, so you've had to read that over and over again for over a year every time I made a post because of that.

If you'll remember, that was my reply to all of Ted's and your posts about how Trump was going to jail.

The first half of my signature has already come true. In 4 days the other half comes true.

Tick Tock



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

It is hard to get an idea into the head of a Trumptard but all Trumptards I know have been convinced for years that Trump can't lose. Nothing Trump has done or said can cause him to lose. They display some mighty strange behavior because of that belief but it is no different than their other beliefs that their own actions cannot hurt them. For example, the smokers keep on smoking because their actions cannot end with cancer, emphysema, heart disease. The gluttons keep digging their own graves with their teeth because their actions cannot hurt them. The philanders are certain their wives will never know nor divorce them. Stupid financial decisions can't end in bankruptcy, only some evil banker who doesn't like the Trumptard could cause financial problems. It is never the Trumptard's fault. It is never Trump's fault when he has troubles. Trumptards are convinced that their actions cannot hurt them, that hurt arises from the government or the boss or a banker who are the only active entities that might hurt them. And Trump will fix that!

P.S. Trump won't.

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Friday, November 1, 2024 2:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Shut the fuck up, loser.

There will be plenty of time for your crying the next 4 years.


All you did the last 4 years was cry about everything, so it will be really fun getting to watch you really have something to cry about again.



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Friday, November 1, 2024 4:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


At this point you have to wonder who in our Government is working to keep Harris from being elected too.

How do we already have the jobs report for October? Why are they releasing it 4 days before the election instead of waiting to drop those terrible numbers until after the election like they always would have in this situation?

This is something that they easily could have hidden until after November 5th. We've witnessed this stuff happen hundreds if not thousands of times before.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/nov/01/kamala-harris-shock-u
s-jobs-figures




I'm wondering if this is the Joe Biden* admin lighting the Kamala Harris campaign on fire in the 11th hour?

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Friday, November 1, 2024 5:52 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

When are we going to talk abiut more interesting stuff?

Trump isn't "the" problem. We've had problems long before Trump, and unless we get on the ball, we'll have problems long after.

What are our interests? How can we achieve them?
What are our problems? How can we solve them?


THGR: Looking at the already voted numbers I see. Not looking good at all for Trump. He's already crying foul. Bidens President now and democrats have lawyers already engaged to yes, stop the steal.

As for moving on to other topics, we will. When Kamala wins his trials begin again. First up, being sentenced for committing 34 felonies. Trust me, we will have lots to talk about.

tick tock tick tock



Do you honestly believe that IF Kamala wins and IF Trump is thrown in jail for the rest of his life, our problems will just somehow end?

I don't think you're THAT stupid, THUGR.






Who the fuck is saying anything of the kind. Your post is subjective bullshit.

Four more days: Tick tock

T


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Friday, November 1, 2024 5:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Uh oh. Somebody sounds angry.

Why so glum, chum?




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Friday, November 1, 2024 6:28 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Uh oh. Somebody sounds angry.

Why so glum, chum?








I'm never angry when comrade signym posts stupid shit and I get to call her on it. Which by the way is always. Same goes for you. So, I predict I'm going to have a fun time here Tuesday night.

T


James Carville: Harris will win because she has more money, more energy, more united party



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Friday, November 1, 2024 6:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

James Carville: Harris will win because she has more money, more energy, more united party



1. More money? This is a bragging point for Democrats in 2024? I thought Democrats used to be about campaign finance reform. At least they used to be, back when I agreed with them on most things.

2. More energy? What? Is she saving her energy? Trump will do 3 podcasts and 2 rallies in different states on the same day, every day, 7 days a week and still find time to talk to reporters. Where the hell has Harris been?

3. United Party?



Now you're just trolling, son.

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Friday, November 1, 2024 9:43 PM

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Trump in SUDDEN PANIC as Election SLIPS AWAY


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Friday, November 1, 2024 10:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


OH NO!

SUDDEN PANIC!

EVERYTHING IS CRASHING HARD!!!!!

THE ELECTION IS SLIPPING AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






Trump wins anywhere between every battleground state -2 to all of them.

Trump wins the national popular vote by at least 1 Million votes.

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Saturday, November 2, 2024 3:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

When are we going to talk abiut more interesting stuff?

Trump isn't "the" problem. We've had problems long before Trump, and unless we get on the ball, we'll have problems long after.

What are our interests? How can we achieve them?
What are our problems? How can we solve them?


THGR: Looking at the already voted numbers I see. Not looking good at all for Trump. He's already crying foul. Bidens President now and democrats have lawyers already engaged to yes, stop the steal.

As for moving on to other topics, we will. When Kamala wins his trials begin again. First up, being sentenced for committing 34 felonies. Trust me, we will have lots to talk about.

tick tock tick tock to

SIGNY: Do you honestly believe that IF Kamala wins and IF Trump is thrown in jail for the rest of his life, our problems will just somehow end?

I don't think you're THAT stupid, THUGR.


THUGR: Who the fuck is saying anything of the kind. Your post is subjective bullshit.

Four more days: Tick tock



What you call "subjective", THGR, is a question. An invitation to think, analyze, discuss.

What is WITH you?



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Saturday, November 2, 2024 6:49 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

When are we going to talk abiut more interesting stuff?

Trump isn't "the" problem. We've had problems long before Trump, and unless we get on the ball, we'll have problems long after.

What are our interests? How can we achieve them?
What are our problems? How can we solve them?


SIGNY: Do you honestly believe that IF Kamala wins and IF Trump is thrown in jail for the rest of his life, our problems will just somehow end?

What you call "subjective", THGR, is a question. An invitation to think, analyze, discuss.

What is WITH you?






Because your so called question is a rabbit hole. And it's tantamount to suggesting if voting for Kamala isn't going to fix everything in the world, why bother to vote for her. A pretty stupid assertion.

It's also a ruse, an attempt to change the subject. The subject of the thread is Trump vs. Kamala. Not world peace, Kapish?

T


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Saturday, November 2, 2024 4:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Vox already wrote their eulogy for Harris today...


How to get through election season without despair

How to power through election stress and keep your eye on the big picture.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/381475/elections-donald-trump-kamal
a-harris-anxiety-progress-voting



The TL;DR: "Since we're about to lose bigly, we will say that elections are important, but they're not the only way we get things done".


RIP

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Saturday, November 2, 2024 4:33 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

THGR
Because your so called question is a rabbit hole. And it's tantamount to suggesting if voting for Kamala isn't going to fix everything in the world, why bother to vote for her.

Not at all. A pretty stupid assertion.

Quote:

THGR
A pretty stupid assertion.


Indeed.

Quote:

THGR
It's also a ruse, an attempt to change the subject. The subject of the thread is Trump vs. Kamala.


No, the topic, formally, is Harris for President. And despite having been asked numerous times to explain WHY I should vote for Harris (policy- wise) you've never answered the question. And "because Trump is a bad man" isn't an answer, bc Kamala's puppeteers are even more evil. IMHO.

Quote:

THGR
Not world peace, Kapish?


When you're talking about the President of the United States, the topic is ALWAYS world peace. Occasionally, nuclear holocaust.

And it's capisce, not Kapish.




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Saturday, November 2, 2024 5:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump has reason in Pennsylvania to feel better than Harris

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3213074/trump-has-reason-in
-pennsylvania-feel-better-than-harris
/

Tick Tock


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Sunday, November 3, 2024 5:29 AM

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Sunday, November 3, 2024 5:33 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Trump has reason in Pennsylvania to feel better than Harris

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3213074/trump-has-reason-in
-pennsylvania-feel-better-than-harris
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tick tock is right

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Sunday, November 3, 2024 6:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I can't even do a mediabiasfactcheck on your bullshit clickbait because nobody outside of their small audience of brainfucked idiots knows who they are.

Every battleground state, save maybe 2, the possibility of other states that weren't considered battleground states since Biden* had a coup force him out, and at least 1 Million more votes nationally than Harris.

Tick Tock



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Sunday, November 3, 2024 6:18 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I can't even do a mediabiasfactcheck on your bullshit clickbait because nobody outside of their small audience of brainfucked idiots knows who they are.

Every battleground state, save maybe 2, the possibility of other states that weren't considered battleground states since Biden* had a coup force him out, and at least 1 Million more votes nationally than Harris.

Tick Tock






@briantylercohen

3.41M subscribers




Here you go. And I'll give you more.

T


America’s Best Pollster Drops SHOCKINGLY GOOD Numbers For Harris!



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Sunday, November 3, 2024 7:37 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I can't even do a mediabiasfactcheck on your bullshit clickbait because nobody outside of their small audience of brainfucked idiots knows who they are.

Every battleground state, save maybe 2, the possibility of other states that weren't considered battleground states since Biden* had a coup force him out, and at least 1 Million more votes nationally than Harris.

Tick Tock






@briantylercohen

3.41M subscribers



Haha! Yeah. And only 21,000 views on his video. Nice bot army purchase that he made there. Nobody watches your Low-T buddies, Ted.

Quote:

Here you go. And I'll give you more.


No thanks.



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Sunday, November 3, 2024 7:40 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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SHOCK POLL! TRUMP LOSING BIG?



Without even clicking on your trash clickbait video, I already know exactly what this is regarding and I addressed this fantasy last night in the Election thread.

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Oh, the cope!


Iowa Poll: Kamala Harris leapfrogs Donald Trump to take lead near Election Day. Here's how

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/1
1/02/iowa-poll-kamala-harris-leads-donald-trump-2024-presidential-race/75354033007
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Leapfrogs! LEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAPFRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOGSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!




SPOILER ALERT: Harris is so far underwater in freakin' Iowa that FiveThirtyEight doesn't even bother calculating an aggregate, probably because nobody is even bothering to poll Iowa.

What was your polling methodology? 100% Democrat voting, college "educated", single women between 35 and 45 who are 50lbs or more overweight with unnaturally colored hair?

Emerson College just gave Trump +9 in Iowa 2 days ago. Stop smoking crack.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/iowa/


And just for comparison's sake, Emerson only gave Trump +1 on Halloween of 2020, and Trump won Iowa in 2020 by +8.2.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2020/iowa/
https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_battleground_states,_2020


Grow up and accept your loss and stop riling up the idiots on the Left right before their world comes crashing down all around them.



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Sunday, November 3, 2024 6:12 PM

THG


Wow, funny but his post was only 10 or so minutes old. I'd say 22 thousand views in 10 minutes is pretty good. So, hears another one. More than 1,600 views in 11 minutes. Hey, don't forget to hit the like button.

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Trump FORGETS WHERE HE IS on stage






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Sunday, November 3, 2024 6:37 PM

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Wow, funny but his post was only 10 or so minutes old. I'd say 22 thousand views in 10 minutes is pretty good.



It was 4 hours old when I gave you that figure.

It's a bot farm channel.

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So, hears another one. More than 1,600 views in 11 minutes. Hey, don't forget to hit the like button.


No thanks.

Enjoy your propaganda while you still can.





P.S. And it's "here's". Not "hears".

You are retarded, and I do enjoy you always giving me yet another opportunity to point that out to everybody.


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Monday, November 4, 2024 8:53 AM

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Generation Z has started a new trend leading up to the 2024 US presidential election – “canceling out” their fathers’ votes.

Just days away from Election Day, many women have on TikTok have hinted that they’re voting for Democratic nominee Kamala Harris, while their parents are voting for Republican nominee Donald Trump. As part of the trend, each video shows social media users with a piece of paper in hand as they leave their houses to go vote.

In one video posted earlier this month, Arizona-based resident Jeanne could be seen walking around her house. She had her ballot in her hand and did a little dance in her living room, with the video set to the song “We Both Reached For The Gun” from the hit musical, Chicago.

“On my way to cancel out my father’s vote for [the former guy],” she wrote in the text over the video, referring to former president Trump. The text also included a blue circle to represent the Democratic party.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gen-z-commit-to-canceling-out-the
ir-maga-parents-votes-in-new-tiktok-trend/ar-AA1tlPsD?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=33708d679a834e11b623ab69f8426b30&ei=20




tick tock tick tock

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No One Has an Alibi. Trump has told us his plans.

By David Frum | November 3, 2024

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/11/american-republic
-trump-threat/680501
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Donald Trump’s presidency was mitigated by his ignorance, idleness, and vanity. Trump did not know how the office worked. He did not invest any effort to learn. He wasted much of his time watching daytime television.

Defeat in 2020—and Trump’s plot to overturn that defeat—gave him a purpose: vengeance on those who bested him.

A second Trump presidency will have a much clearer agenda than the first. No more James Mattis to restrain him, no more John Kelly to chide him, no more Rex Tillerson to call him a “fucking moron.” He will have only sycophants.

Trump has told the world his second-term plans.

He has vowed to round up and deport millions of foreign nationals. Because the removals will be slow—permissions have to be negotiated with the receiving governments, transportation booked, people forced aboard—Trump has spoken of building a national network of camps to hold the rounded-up immigrants. Deportation is a power of the presidency: Trump can indeed do all of this if he is determined to.

Trump has pledged huge increases in U.S. tariffs, not only on China but on friends and treaty partners, such as Mexico. Congress has historically delegated the president’s broad authority over trade. A restored President Trump will have the power to impose tariffs, and will also have the power to exempt industries and firms that bid for his favor.

Trump intends to shut down legal proceedings, state and federal, against himself. A friendly Supreme Court appears to grant him wide leeway to do so. He has promised to pardon people serving sentences for the attack on Congress on January 6, 2021. The president has the power to do that also. He has spoken of prosecuting people who donate to Democratic candidates and of retribution against media companies that criticize him. Although it’s uncertain how far the courts would let him succeed, Trump is seeking a stooge attorney general who will at least try to bring such prosecutions.

Trump ordered his allies in Congress to oppose further military aid to Ukraine and got his way for six deadly months. Trump chose as his running mate one of the GOP’s harshest critics of the Ukrainian cause. Trump boasts that he will end the fighting within weeks. That is code for forcing Ukraine to submit to Russia.

One of Trump’s former national security advisers, John Bolton, predicts that Trump would withdraw from NATO in a second term. Trump does not have to withdraw formally, however. NATO ultimately depends on the U.S. president’s commitment to upholding the treaty’s mutual-defense clause and assisting threatened NATO members. As president, all Trump has to do to kill NATO is repeat what he once said as a candidate: that unless they pay up, he won’t protect this or that ally from attack. No further action required; the deed is done.

Some Trump apologists put a gloss on his pro–Vladimir Putin instincts by arguing that abandoning Ukraine will somehow strengthen the U.S. against China. Really? China will be impressed by a United States that walked away from Ukraine’s successful war of self-defense against Russian aggression because the American president is infatuated with the Russian dictator?

Whatever theory Trump allies may confect, Trump himself made it clear in a July interview that Taiwan cannot count on him any more than Ukraine can. Trump conceives of the U.S. alliance system as a protection racket, not as an association of democracies. In his preelection interview with the podcaster Joe Rogan, Trump made the Mafia comparison explicit. He said of Taiwan and other allies: “They want us to protect, and they want protection. They don’t pay us money for the protection, you know? The mob makes you pay money, right?” A vote for Trump isn’t a vote for some Pacific-first strategy, however misconceived or addled. It’s a vote for international gangsterism. Trump feels most at home with dictators (including Xi Jinping, China’s president for life) and with client states, such as Saudi Arabia, that pay emoluments to him and to his family via their businesses.

Yet a second-term Trump will not travel a smooth path to autocracy at home and isolation from abroad. If Trump does return to the presidency, it will almost certainly occur after a third consecutive loss of the popular vote: by 3 million in 2016, 7 million in 2020, and who knows how many millions in 2024.

Since the end of the Cold War, a Republican candidate for president has won more votes than his Democratic counterpart exactly once, in 2004. Even so, the GOP has enjoyed three presidencies, and soon perhaps a fourth. Minority rule begins to look like not merely a feature of Republican administration, but actually a precondition for it. Trump Republicans may now insist, “We’re a republic, not a democracy.” But most Americans assumed that we were a democracy—and believe that, to the extent we’re not, we should be.

If a president who comes to office without a majority democratic mandate starts doing the radical things Trump wants to do—building detention camps, pardoning January 6 culprits, abandoning Ukraine—he’s going to find himself on the receiving end of some powerful opposition. A president hoisted into office by a glitch of the Electoral College cannot silence criticism by invoking his popular mandate. A president who has been convicted of felonies and who fires prosecutors in order to save himself from being convicted of even more is not well positioned to demand law and order.

Trump may forget, but his opponents will not, that he was the man who wrecked the country’s centuries-long record of a peaceful transition of power. That particular clock reset itself to zero in 2021. The American tradition is now shorter than those of Moldova and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, both of which have a record of peaceful transition of power stretching all the way back to 2019.


A second Trump administration will be even more of a snake pit of craziness, incompetence, and intrigue than the first was. Elon Musk will imagine himself to be the real power in the land: After all, he bought the presidency, didn’t he? Vice President J. D. Vance will scheme to shoulder aside an elderly Trump, whom he never respected. It’s amazing what a vice president can get done if he arrives at the office at six in the morning and the president doesn’t show up until nearly noon. The lower levels of the administration will see a nonstop guerrilla war between the opportunists who signed up with Trump for their own advantage and the genuine crackpots.

From the viewpoint of millions of Americans, a second Trump presidency would be the result of a foreign cabal’s exploitation of defects in the constitutional structure to impose un-American authoritarianism on an unwilling majority. It enrages pro-Trump America that anti-Trump America regards Trump and Vance as disloyal tools of Russian subversion—but we do, we have the evidence, and we have the numbers.

If Trump is elected again, world trade will contract under the squeeze of U.S. protectionism. Prices will jump for ordinary Americans. Farmers and other exporters will lose markets. Businesses will lose competitiveness as Trump tariffs raise the price of every input in the supply chain, including such basic commodities as steel and such advanced products as semiconductor chips.

As Americans quarrel over Trump’s extreme actions, the most prominent predators—Russia, China, and Iran—will prowl, seeking advantage for themselves in the U.S. turmoil. Ominously, Trump’s weakness may make great-power conflict more likely.

Putin, Xi, and North Korea’s Kim Jong Un may imagine that because they can manipulate and outwit Trump, they can discount the United States entirely. China especially may misinterpret Trump’s dislike of allies as an invitation to grab Taiwan—only to trigger a U.S. reaction that may surprise China and Trump alike. Until such a desperate moment, however, former allies will look elsewhere for protection. As a French cabinet minister said, only days ago: “We cannot leave the security of Europe in the hands of the voters of Wisconsin every four years.”

Under a returned President Trump, the American century will come to a close, in the way darkly foreseen by a great 20th-century novel of Washington power, Allen Drury’s Advise and Consent, from 1959:

In his lifetime he had seen America rise and rise and rise, some sort of golden legend to her own people, some sort of impossible fantasy to others … rise and rise and rise—and then … the golden legend crumbled, overnight the fall began, the heart went out of it.

Trump’s ascent has driven many to wonder how U.S. politics became so polarized, so extreme. That question, so often repeated, is also profoundly misplaced. We all regularly encounter fellow Americans who hold views different from our own. Almost all of those encounters unfold with calm and civility.

The speech and behavior modeled by Trump are emulated by only his most fervent admirers, and even then only in safe spaces, such as on social media and at his rallies. The most pro-Trump employer in America would instantly fire any employee who talked about women, racial minorities, international partners, or people who lived in big cities the way that Trump does. An employee who told lies, shifted blame, exulted in violence, misappropriated other people’s property, blathered nonsense, or just wandered around vacantly as Trump does would be referred to mental-health professionals or reported to law enforcement.

Trump’s conduct is in fact so disturbing and offensive even to his supporters that they typically cope either by denying attested facts or by inventing fictional good deeds and falsely attributing them to him: secret acts of charity, empathy, or courtesy that never happened.


Trump’s political superpower has not been his ability to activate a small fan base. If that’s all he were able to do, he’d be no more a threat to American institutions than any of the other fanatics and oddballs who lurk on the edges of mainstream politics. Trump’s superpower has been his ability to leverage his sway over a cult following to capture control of one of the two great parties in U.S. politics. If all we had to worry about were the people who idolize Trump, we would not have much to worry about. Unfortunately, we also must worry about the people who see him as he is but choose to work through him anyway, in pursuit of their own goals.

For that reason, Trump’s rise has imposed a special responsibility upon those of us with backgrounds in conservative and Republican politics. He arose because he was enabled not just by people we knew but by people we also knew to despise him.

For that reason too, his rise has generated a fierce and determined internal refusal of a kind not seen before in presidential politics. “Never Trump” is both a label for the reaction of some of the most prominent Republicans, such as Mitt Romney and Dick Cheney, and a movement that has helped tip into the Democratic column congressional seats once held by George H. W. Bush, Newt Gingrich, Eric Cantor, and many other former party stalwarts. These did not use to be “swing seats” by any definition: Bush’s seat had been Republican-held for more than half a century until it went Democratic in 2018. Through the 2024 primaries, about one-fifth of Republicans voted against Trump to the very end, even after all of his opponents ended their campaigns.

Pro-Trump Republicans dismiss this internal refusal as unimportant. They also rage against the refusers as party traitors. I have felt that fury because I number among the refusers.

About two weeks ago, I received an email from a reader who demanded, not very politely, that I cease describing myself as a conservative if I did not support Trump’s return to the presidency:

I know a lot of you NeverTrumpers want to pretend otherwise, but the Trump presidency was a very conservative presidency, and a lot of policy objectives of the Conservative Movement were achieved in his presidency … There is never a conservative case for voting for a Democrat over a Republican due to the simple fact that in any given election (whether its federal or state or local), the Republican candidate is to the right of the Democratic candidate.

One lesson of the Trump years, however, is about how old concepts of “right” and “left” have fallen out of date in the Trump era. What was conservatism once? A politics of gratitude for America’s great constitutional traditions, a politics of free markets and free trade, a politics of American global leadership. This was the politics that excited me, as a very young man, to knock on doors for the Reagan-Bush ticket in the election of 1980.

Ronald Reagan liked to describe the United States as a “shining city on a hill.” As Trump closed his 2024 campaign, he derided the country as “the garbage can for the world.” In his first inaugural address, Reagan challenged the country “to believe in our capacity to perform great deeds.” He concluded: “And after all, why shouldn’t we believe that? We are Americans.” Trump instead condemns the United States as a “stupid country that’s run by stupid people.”

In 1987, Reagan traveled to Berlin, then still divided by the Iron Curtain, to urge the Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to “tear down this wall.” Three years later, Trump gave an interview to Playboy in which he condemned Gorbachev for not crushing dissent more harshly and praised the Chinese Communist Party for the murderous violence of Tiananmen Square:

When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength … Russia is out of control, and the leadership knows it. That’s my problem with Gorbachev. Not a firm enough hand.


Reagan saluted a common American identity bigger than party. In 1982, he honored the centenary of the birth of his great opposite number among 20th-century presidents, Franklin D. Roosevelt:

Like the Founding Fathers before him, F.D.R. was an American giant, a leader who shaped, inspired, and led our people through perilous times. He meant many different things to many different people. He could reach out to men and women of diverse races and backgrounds and inspire them with new hope and new confidence in war and peace.

Forty-two years later, Donald Trump describes his Democratic adversaries, including the most recent Democratic speaker of the House, as enemies “from within.” Trump also mused about using the National Guard and the U.S. military against “the enemy within.” He has repeatedly spoken of using state power to retaliate against politicians and journalists. As president, he pressed his attorney general to prosecute his critics and perceived adversaries. Privately, he often spoke and speaks of arresting and executing opponents, including General Mark Milley, the most senior member of the military who incurred his displeasure. He has endorsed proposals to haul former Republican Representative Liz Cheney before a military tribunal to be punished for voting for his impeachment.

Even if Trump is only partly successful in crushing dissent, the authoritarian direction in which he wishes to lead the country is unmistakable. Since 2021, Trump has bent the Republican Party to his will even more radically now than he did as president. Republicans have made their peace with Trump’s actions on January 6. They wrote tariffs into their 2024 party platform. They let Trump plunder party funds for his own legal defense, and then, because they were broke, turned over their get-out-the-vote operation to Elon Musk’s personal super PAC. The Republican Party has lost its immunity to Trump’s authoritarianism.

Trump himself has only become more vengeful and bloodthirsty. He told the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2021 about his response to two impeachments: “I became worse.” This personal instinct will guide the entire administration, and that is the meaning of the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025, which functions as Trump’s first-year operating plan (in part because Project 2025 is the only plan Trump’s got).

If you are inclined to vote for Trump out of some attachment to a Reaganite idea of conservative Republicanism, think again. Your party, the party that stood for freedom against the Berlin Wall, has three times nominated a man who praised the massacre at Tiananmen Square.

Forty years is a long time in politics. The four decades from 1924 to 1964 saw the Democratic Party evolve from one that nominated a segregationist and refused to condemn the Ku Klux Klan to the party that wrote and implemented the Civil Rights Act. Over a similar interval, the Republican Party has rotated from being one of freedom and enterprise to one of authoritarianism and repression. Yet many inside the Republican world and outside—including my email correspondent—insist on pretending that nothing has changed.

A few weeks ago, a researcher released a report that tallied political contributions by almost 100,000 executives and corporate directors at almost 10,000 firms from 2001 to 2022. The tally showed a pronounced trend away from Republican candidates and conservative causes. When reported in the media, the headlines pronounced that “CEOs Are Moving Left.” Are they? Or are they instead recognizing that the party of Trump and Vance has become virtually the opposite of the party of Reagan and Bush?

Consider this example: In his 1991 State of the Union address, Bush discerned an “opportunity to fulfill the long-held promise of a new world order, where brutality will go unrewarded and aggression will meet collective resistance.” Campaigning this year, Vance appeared at the Turning Point USA convention alongside the far-right broadcaster and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who announced: “We’re bringing down the new world order!”

Trump is opposed by almost every member of his first-term national-security team, and by his own former vice president; he has the support of the anti-vax crank Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the propagandist for Russian imperialism Tulsi Gabbard. Something revolutionary has happened inside the Republican Party: If you placed your faith and loyalty in Reagan and Bush’s party of freedom, you need to accept that the party of Trump and Vance has rejected your ideals, discarded your heroes, defiled your most cherished political memories. This GOP is something new and different and ugly, and you owe it nothing.

“I believe in America.” Those words open a great American movie, The Godfather. Although, in the film, those words pulse with heavy irony—they are spoken by an undertaker to a gangster as they together plot an act of revenge against a bigoted failure of American justice—they also pulse with power. We can recognize that there is so much to doubt about America, yet we believe in it all the same.

In 1860, Americans voted on whether to remain one country or to split over slavery. In 1964, Americans voted on whether to defend equal rights before the law. So also will the election of 2024 turn on one ultimate question: whether to protect our constitutional democracy or submit to a presidency that wants to reorder the United States in such a way that it will become one of the world’s reactionary authoritarian regimes.

Some rationalizers for Trump want to deceive you that you face an unhappy choice between two equally difficult extremes. That is untrue. One choice, the Trump choice, deviates from the path of constitutional democracy toward a murky and sinister future. The other choice allows the United States to continue its cautious progress along the lines marked by the Declaration of Independence and the Fourteenth Amendment toward the aspiration of a “more perfect union.”

If elected, Kamala Harris will be the first woman president: a dramatic breakthrough in U.S. history. Yet, in so many ways, her presidency will be constrained. She’ll almost certainly face a Republican-controlled Senate from the start; very possibly, a Republican House, too. Even if the Democrats somehow win a majority in a single chamber of Congress in 2024, they’ll almost certainly lose it in 2026. Besides a hostile Congress, she would also face adverse courts and a media environment in which a handful of ultra-wealthy owners can impose ever-stricter limits on what may be said and who will hear it.

Yet within these inevitable limitations, Harris offers one big idea: the equal right of the female half of the American people to freedom and individuality.

Since the overturning of Roe v. Wade in 2022, American women have become the targets of a campaign of surveillance, policing, and control. In many places, they have lost the right to protect themselves from the consequences of sexual violence. A study in an American Medical Association journal estimates that some 65,000 rape-caused pregnancies a year are occurring in the 14 states where abortion is now banned. State governments have inserted themselves into the medical care of women who miscarry their pregnancies, restricting the treatment their doctors can offer—sometimes with permanent loss of fertility or worse as a result of the government’s order.

Some conservative states are weighing restrictions on the right of pregnant women to travel across state lines to seek abortions in more liberal jurisdictions. In a 2022 interview, Vance declared himself sympathetic to such authoritarian measures:

I’m sympathetic to the view that like, okay, look here, here’s a situation—let’s say Roe vs. Wade is overruled. Ohio bans abortion, in 2022 or let’s say 2024. And then, you know, every day George Soros sends a 747 to Columbus to load up disproportionately black women to get them to go have abortions in California. And of course, the left will celebrate this as a victory for diversity—that’s kind of creepy … And it’s like, if that happens, do you need some federal response to prevent it from happening?


In his 1960 book, The Conscience of a Conservative, Senator Barry Goldwater answered those who asked what he, as president, would do about this or that particular constituent interest. His words echo to this day: “I shall reply that I was informed their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can.”

America’s main interest remains liberty. The election of 2024 will sway federal policy on a huge range of issues: climate change; economic growth; border security; stability on the European continent, in the Middle East, in the Indo-Pacific. Supreme above all of these issues, however, is preserving the right of the American people to govern themselves according to their constitutional rules.

Trump is not an abstract thinker. When he thinks about the presidency, he thinks about enriching himself, flattering his ego, and punishing his enemies. Yet, as he pursues his impulsive purposes, he is also advancing a bigger cause in which he has many more intelligent partners, and one that will outlast his political career. That cause is to rearrange the U.S. government so that a minority can indefinitely rule over the American majority.

As hemmed in as her presidency may be, Harris will also have a great cause to advance. Her cause will be what Lincoln’s was, and Roosevelt’s, and Reagan’s, too: to protect the right of the American majority to govern itself in defiance of domestic plutocrats and foreign autocrats. Every domestic-policy challenge—climate change, economic growth, budget deficits, border security—will follow from this prior question: “Government of the people, by the people, for the people—or government of some people, by some people, for some people?”

Voting has begun. This great ritual of American democracy reaches its climax on November 5. The right vote to cast in 2024 is both progressive and conservative: conservative because it conserves the great things Americans have already done together and progressive because it keeps alive the possibility of doing still greater things in the future. The near-term policy outlook matters far less than stopping a small cabal of sinister and suspect power-seekers from blocking forever the right of the American majority to do any great things at all.

In the immediate shock of Trump’s inauguration in 2017, I posted these words:

We are living through the most dangerous challenge to the free government of the United States that anyone alive has encountered. What happens next is up to you and me. Don’t be afraid. This moment of danger can also be your finest hour as a citizen and an American.

Over the succeeding four years of Trump’s term, I lived almost every day in a state of dread. Perhaps you did, too. Yet the American people proved equal to the work required of them. The guardrails shook, and in some places they cracked, yet when the ultimate test came, in January 2021, brave Americans of both great parties joined to beat back Trump’s violent attempted seizure of power.

Now here we are again. You are needed once more. Perhaps you feel wearier than you did seven years ago. Perhaps you feel more afraid today than you did then. Yet you must still find the strength to answer your country’s call. You can do it. We can do it. We believe in America.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, November 4, 2024 1:06 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Trump’s Cronies Threw the VA Into Chaos. Millions of Veterans’ Lives Are on the Line Again.

Former VA officials warn that another Trump term could irreparably damage the health care system for millions of veterans.

By Jasper Craven | October 28 2024, 10:54 a.m.

https://theintercept.com/2024/10/28/trump-veterans-va-darin-selnick-pe
ter-orourke
/

Selnick and O’Rourke were key to implementing the twin pillars of Trump’s veterans affairs legacy: the 2017 VA Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act and the 2018 VA MISSION Act, which together served as a one-two punch to weaken the agency. First, the Accountability Act degraded conditions inside the VA — undermining labor power, gutting workplace protections, and leading to thousands of suspensions, demotions, and firings of front-line staff. From there, MISSION funneled millions of patients to appointments outside the VA, enriching the private sector while weakening the agency’s health care capacity, budget, and reputation.

That the pair managed to avoid infamy may owe only to the buffoonish crew that operated Trump’s single-term VA. This cadre includes a beer mogul who promoted snake oil PTSD treatments; a slick-haired “Fox & Friends” host who sought GI Bill money for predatory for-profit colleges; a longtime Marvel Entertainment executive who, along with two fellow Mar-a-Lago members, pushed a shoddy electronic health records system that’s been tied to the deaths of at least four veterans; a White House doctor accused of handing out prescriptions “like candy” and whose nomination to be VA secretary was derailed after he was credibly accused of drinking on the job; and a Lost Cause sympathizer alleged to have attempted to dig up dirt on a congressional staffer and Navy veteran after she reported being sexually assaulted at the VA hospital in Washington.

These characters and their chaos emerged from an election that Trump won on the backs of veteran voters. While the decorated Vietnam War veteran, the late Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., won the veteran vote by 10 percentage points during his 2008 presidential bid, Trump, who viciously insulted McCain on the trail, took veterans by a whopping 27-point margin. According to a political science analysis of 2016 voting data, Trump also received exceptionally high support in American communities with the highest combat casualty rates, which was key to his victories in three swing states: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Trump racked up similar margins in 2020 and appears poised to again dominate among those who served in the military come November 5.

Trump has generally talked a lot less about veterans’ policy during this campaign than his first two. Few tangible policy VA proposals have emerged from Trump or the Republican platform. There are, however, some clues in Project 2025’s detailed section on veterans policy, which, according to a former senior VA official, is eerily reminiscent of the VA road map drafted during Trump’s first transition. This slate of radical proposals includes further privatization of core agency services, as well as major restrictions to VA’s disability rating system, which determines the compensation amounts that veterans receive for their service-related disabilities.

If Trump’s presidential term proved anything, it’s that personnel is policy. The figures who staffed his first term can help illuminate how a second one may play out. Many would surely return to the VA under what Trump has promised will be a government flushed of career officials and then stocked exclusively with the type of loyal ideologues who dominated the VA during his administration.

“Government is serious business for serious people,” said Kayla Williams, an Iraq War veteran who served as a senior VA official during the Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations. “And that’s what I feel like is missing from these Trump people’s core understanding of the world. Government matters, people’s lives are at stake, and putting in charge figures who think government is a game or a joke or a way to enrich their buddies, or a way to score political points, is dangerous and misguided and deeply tragic.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by THG:
Generation Z has started a new trend leading up to the 2024 US presidential election – “canceling out” their fathers’ votes.



Once again, I found the loophole.

Damn I'm good.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Generation Z has started a new trend leading up to the 2024 US presidential election – “canceling out” their fathers’ votes.



Once again, I found the loophole.

Damn I'm good.

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.





Na, my guys found the loophole. He stole the 2020 election from your guy and he's doing it again. Just think, after tomorrow we will have taken the presidency from your boy twice.

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Monday, November 4, 2024 8:13 PM

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Okay buddy.

You're about 5 points behind where you were 4 years ago in every state and the popular vote.

Your guy won the presidency by 44,000 votes in 3 states that Harris won't win.

I'd temper my expectations if I were you.



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Tuesday, November 5, 2024 7:33 AM

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I'll be watching Georgia tonight to see where we are at. They changed how they count votes so we will know early who is voting for Kamala and where in the state they live. That doesn't mean she has to win it.

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Tuesday, November 5, 2024 9:40 AM

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T

'F around and find out': Philly DA on election interference


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Tuesday, November 5, 2024 1:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
I'll be watching Georgia tonight to see where we are at. They changed how they count votes so we will know early who is voting for Kamala and where in the state they live. That doesn't mean she has to win it.

T




You've learned how to say a lot without saying anything. You've got what it takes to be a Democrat.


I'd caution against looking at only one state to see where things are going to go. Florida and even New York made us think that 2020 was going to be a blowout for Trump. We didn't know at the time that New York was an outlier among blue states and we certainly didn't know that Florida was no longer going to be a swing state going forward.

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Wednesday, November 6, 2024 1:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
I'll be watching Georgia tonight to see where we are at. They changed how they count votes so we will know early who is voting for Kamala and where in the state they live. That doesn't mean she has to win it.

T




I'm curious, Ted. How'd that work out for you?

Didn't go as planned, did it?

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Wednesday, November 6, 2024 2:55 AM

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Guess not.

Guess we'll also have to finally retire about a dozen of Ted's other threads now too.





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Wednesday, November 6, 2024 6:52 PM

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She got the Dick Van Dyke endorsement, not an AI version, he's still alive
he's old now so he just pulled out an old speech he already Delivered at 1964 MLK





Who was this lunatic female Joker 2 woman going to pick


President Kamala
Vice President Tim Walz
Defense Lloyd Austin again? Blinken? Angelian Jolie? Scarlett Johansson? Liz Cheney?
Secretary of State Bill Clinton's wife? Obama's wife? warmonger John Bolton?
Secretary of the Treasury Janet? Gavin Newsom? Harvey Weinstein? Oprah Winfrey?
Attorney General Jack Smith? Merrick Garland? Fani Willis?
Science DARPA ...give the position to someone from India, Ukraine or Mexico
Secretary of the Interior some multiple citizen a British-Jewish-Saudi American?
Secretary of Agriculture Joy Behar? Whoppie Goldberg? Howard Stern?
Secretary of Commerce Amazon, Facebook, a porno studio?
Secretary of Labora drug dealer from Mexico?
Health some Tranny thing?
Housing and Development a random person from Fema?
Transportation Pete Assbandit or another cross dressing transexual?
Secretary of Energy ...windmills, solar pannels, rub sticks together make fire
Secretary of Education more Lebian Gay Transexuals?
Secretary of Veterans Affairs some AI Chatbot
Secretary of Homeland Securityis it possible to be even worse than Alejandro Mayorkas...some pro Iran pro Saudi Open border lunatic, Susan Rice?
Environmental Protection Agency ...someone ban fire, ban gasoline, some person that will ban Elon Musk
United States Trade Representative some Amazon, Facebook, a hollyweird porno studio
Ambassador to the United Nations Rachael Maddow? Tiffany Henyard? Beyonce? Morning Joe or Mika Brzezinski, Robert DeNiro? Joy Reid?
Chief of Staff ...a random pet cat or pet dog? maybe a bobble head doll

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Wednesday, November 6, 2024 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
T


'F around and find out': Philly DA on election interference



So much ado over nothing.

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Wednesday, November 6, 2024 10:13 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Who was this lunatic female Joker 2 woman going to pick


President Kamala
Vice President Tim Walz
Defense Lloyd Austin again? Blinken? Angelian Jolie? Scarlett Johansson? Liz Cheney?
Secretary of State Bill Clinton's wife? Obama's wife? warmonger John Bolton?
Secretary of the Treasury Janet? Gavin Newsom? Harvey Weinstein? Oprah Winfrey?
Attorney General Jack Smith? Merrick Garland? Fani Willis?
Science DARPA ...give the position to someone from India, Ukraine or Mexico
Secretary of the Interior some multiple citizen a British-Jewish-Saudi American?
Secretary of Agriculture Joy Behar? Whoppie Goldberg? Howard Stern?
Secretary of Commerce Amazon, Facebook, a porno studio?
Secretary of Labora drug dealer from Mexico?
Health some Tranny thing?
Housing and Development a random person from Fema?
Transportation Pete Assbandit or another cross dressing transexual?
Secretary of Energy ...windmills, solar pannels, rub sticks together make fire
Secretary of Education more Lebian Gay Transexuals?
Secretary of Veterans Affairs some AI Chatbot
Secretary of Homeland Securityis it possible to be even worse than Alejandro Mayorkas...some pro Iran pro Saudi Open border lunatic, Susan Rice?
Environmental Protection Agency ...someone ban fire, ban gasoline, some person that will ban Elon Musk
United States Trade Representative some Amazon, Facebook, a hollyweird porno studio
Ambassador to the United Nations Rachael Maddow? Tiffany Henyard? Beyonce? Morning Joe or Mika Brzezinski, Robert DeNiro? Joy Reid?
Chief of Staff ...a random pet cat or pet dog? maybe a bobble head doll

HAHAHA!

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Wednesday, November 6, 2024 11:09 PM

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Kamala couldn't hire any of those people.

They already all work for the Government.



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Friday, November 8, 2024 12:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Check this shit out...

MSNBC throwing Harris under the bus so they don't have to own up to any of their own bullshit.



One sentence sums up Kamala Harris' misread of the election
Kamala Harris’ failure to distance herself from Biden on the economy helped doom her.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/why-kamala-harris-lost-ele
ction-trump-inflation-economy-biden-rcna178953




HER FUCKING MISREAD???????

You motherfuckers have been lying about the economy for three years...

AND IT'S HER FAULT!!!!????

SHE MISREAD THE FUCKING SITUATION!!!!



All this shit you're bitching about in the article? When she said anything that you bring up in this article you fucking praised her up and down for it. Going around the last three months telling anybody who was listening that Kamala Harris was the most qualified fucking person to have ever run for President of the United States.

And why wouldn't you? The fucking economy was and has been great for this entire time. Unchecked Illegal Immigration was GREAT and Trump was a racist for ever trying to stop it while he was President, until it was election time again and the only thing that stopped America from finally taking a stand against these no good illegal alien invaders was Donald Trump because he had an election to win. Foreign relations are and fucking have always been fucking excellent! Everybody in the country is fucking happy all the fucking time every fucking day!!!

Happy fucking happy!!! Joy fucking joy!!!!

Anything we're feeling to the contrary is just in our own imaginations and is just pure downright Nazi Trump talk if you say it in public. WHY WOULD HARRIS HAVE CHANGED A FUCKING THING THAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS WHEN YOU BLEW HER AND BIDEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAD AND CONSTANTLY TOLD YOUR VIEWERS ANYBODY WHO DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT POINT OF VIEW WAS EVIL!!!!!??????????

FUCKING CLOWN WORLD!!!!! FUCK YOU MSNBC. FUCK YOU SIDEWAYS!!!! FUCK YOU TWICE ON SUNDAY!!!!!


I hope you cunts get what you deserve and the ever-shrinking audience you cater to finally abandons you altogether for lying to them every day about everything.

You are fucking trash.

Pure fucking propaganda outfit.

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Saturday, November 9, 2024 3:34 PM

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It's hard for me to find what I've posted because somebody likes bumping up dozens of old threads 3 days a week, but just like I predicted would happen when Trump won, the Legacy Media is now saying that Harris' political career is basically finished.



Harris faces political wilderness after historic loss leaves her party ‘in tatters’

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/presidential/3224184
/harris-faces-political-wilderness-historic-loss-party-tatters
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Democrats, including strategist Jim Manley, contend their party is leaderless and rudderless right now.

Most Democrats are distraught by the thought of having to grapple with another four years of Trump. But although many do not hold Harris responsible for Tuesday, they do not consider her to be the future of the party.

“She ran a better campaign than I ever would have expected, especially given the bad position President Biden put her in, but there is no reason to think that she should run again in four years,” Manley told the Washington Examiner. “None, zero, zip.”

Others, including more liberal Democrats and lawmakers, do blame Harris, or at least her campaign and the party’s trend more broadly toward the center of the political spectrum.

“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party, which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) said after the election. “While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”



Fuck yeah, Bernie! You tell 'em.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 12:19 PM

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“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party, which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) said after the election. “While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”



Fuck yeah, Bernie! You tell 'em.



Uh Oh... Nancy is not happy with Bernie...

Nancy Pelosi tears into Bernie Sanders for claiming Democrats ‘abandoned’ working class amid Harris election loss: ‘I don’t respect him saying that’

https://nypost.com/2024/11/10/us-news/nancy-pelosi-tears-into-bernie-s
anders-comments-democrats-abandoned-working-class-leading-to-harris-election-loss-to-trump
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“I have a great deal of respect for him, for what he stands for, but I don’t respect him saying that the Democratic Party has abandoned the working-class families. That’s where we are,” the 84-year-old California Rep. told the New York Times podcast “The Interview.”

Pelosi was pressured to reveal what went wrong in Harris’ campaign, but could not admit it was the vice president’s fault for losing the presidential election to Donald Trump.

“Well, I just completely disagree. And, in fact, Kamala Harris ran ahead of Bernie Sanders in Vermont,” Pelosi told the podcast.



False.

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Pelosi, who was seen as the mastermind in getting Joe Biden to drop his reelection campaign, said cultural issues were the reason Trump was backed by the lower classes.

“Well, there are cultural issues involved in elections as well. Guns, God and gays — that’s the way they say it,” she added.



No, Nance... Nobody says it that way. That's not a thing that people outside of the Democrat Party in D.C. ever says.



I'm sure Nance will be fine. Happiness is just another whiskey bottle and illegal insider trade away in the Pelosi house.



She's liable to die of natural causes before the next election anyhow. Hopefully most of these boomers on both sides in the house and senate die off soon.

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Saturday, November 16, 2024 5:44 PM

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What's Next? Here Are 10 Great Career Options For Kamala To Consider

https://babylonbee.com/news/whats-next-here-are-10-great-career-option
s-for-kamala-to-consider


Quote:

The American people have spoken, leaving Kamala Harris on her way out of office and looking toward whatever may come next. What does the future hold for her?

To help her out, The Babylon Bee has come up with the following list of promising career options Kamala Harris should consider:

Accent Coach: Think of the money she could make training actors to speak in different dialects.

President of Harvard University: Egregious plagiarism and incompetence are the most important requirements for the position.

Spoken Word Slam Poet: Finally, the perfect outlet for her natural way of speaking.

Designated Laugher for The Late Show with Stephen Colbert: It'll be great for him to always be able to count on at least one person to laugh at his jokes.

The little person who lives inside the McDonald's ordering kiosk: She already has valuable McDonald's experience... allegedly.

Play-by-Play Commentator for the Oakland Athletics: She can't be any worse than that other woman they have.

Nanny: This could lead to new levels of intimacy with Doug Emhoff.

Sommelier: Though she may have to be informed that she's not supposed to actually drink all the wine she tastes.

3rd Grade Debate Teacher: Sadly, this position may be beyond her skill level.

The first female President of the United States: Let's be honest, there's still a real chance Joe doesn't make it to January 20.

Despite the landslide election loss, it's clear that Kamala's future is very bright. What job do you think would be perfect for her? Add your own suggestions in the comments below.



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