Russia, Signyms And Iran's Big Middle East Fail by THG

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Russia, Signyms And Iran's Big Middle East Fail

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Monday, December 9, 2024 11:21 AM

This belongs in every thread so it shows up whenever someone pulls up a thread concerning this topic. Russia's and Iran's big Middle East fail.

Israel answers the butchers who attacked it. What's the score so far? Well, let's see. Syria fell, why? Israel destroyed Hezbollah and Hamas. Literally, Isreal destroyed Hezbollah and Hamas.

Isreal showed Iran It can blow its missiles out of the sky. That Israeli F-35's can take out any target in Iran they want, whenever they want, almost with impunity. With Iran losing its proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas, i.e. its disruptors in the region, they've lost their bid to be the dominant force in the Middle East. That's over for them.

Who's the biggest loser? Russia Russia Russia. Putin jumped into helping Assad to gain influence in that part of the world. And, to stop a pipeline running through Syria undercutting its oil dominance of Europe. Russia's sphere of influence in the Middle East is over, puff, gone. They too are collapsing. The world is changing causing a dramatic power shift. Authoritarian regimes are dropping like flies, i.e. Türkiye and China aren't fairing much better.

Brics, Putins' small sphere of influence is now short on appeal. Those countries are going to quickly rethink their choice to align with Putins' Russia. They can see it is soon to be a failed state.

That's not to say those who control much of Syria are the good guys. The Kurds and most of the Syria people are, but not so much anyone else. We need to hope for the best, while helping to shape things when it is in our interest to do so.

Poor comrade signym. Her world is falling apart as well. All her posts were shown to be bullshit in this and other threads. Years of telling us here how Russia controls the Black Sea and is such a fighting force. For her too, that is over. The satisfaction that it brings, the vindication, makes it well worth the wait.

Too funny...

T

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Monday, December 9, 2024 11:48 AM

THG

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Monday, December 9, 2024 12:53 PM

THG

'A tricky situation for Biden': Rebels capture Damascus, ending Assad regime

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Monday, December 9, 2024 1:05 PM

THG

Again, look at what comrade signym was for. What signym promoted.

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'Assad was a monster': Rebels capture Damascus, ending Assad regime

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Monday, December 9, 2024 1:35 PM

THG

Assad collapse in Syria signals end of Iran's domination in Middle East ‘once and for all’

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Monday, December 9, 2024 2:33 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Syria is not Russia's and Iran's Big Fail, it's Biden's* and the neocon's.

Because you think engineering an al Qaeda takeover of Syria is a SUCCESS...

then you're either STOOPID or evil.

But, we all knew that.

*****

Quote:
'Al Qaeda Is on Our Side’: How Obama-Biden team empowered terrorists in Syria
Aaron Maté, 2/20/2022

Jake Sullivan: "AQ [al Qaeda] is on our side in Syria"

https://www.clintonfoundationtimeline.com/february-12-2012-an-email-fr
om-jake-sullivan-to-hillary-al-qaeda-is-on-our-side-in-syria/

BTW, if you review Russia's and Iran's actions in Syria back when ISIS was in the process of taking it over, and since, what you'll see is that they were fighting terrorists, not supporting Assad. For example, they did nothing to stop Israel from bombing Syria. I found this very fine parsing of military support puzzling, but apparently neither Russia nor Iran were "all in" on Assad. Seems they were ready tonlet Assad succeed or fail on his own.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Monday, December 9, 2024 2:58 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Signym, I'm not surprised that your quote is a lie that cuts off most of what was written.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
'Al Qaeda Is on Our Side’: How Obama-Biden team empowered terrorists in Syria
Aaron Maté, 2/20/2022

Jake Sullivan: "AQ [al Qaeda] is on our side in Syria"

https://www.clintonfoundationtimeline.com/february-12-2012-an-email-fr
om-jake-sullivan-to-hillary-al-qaeda-is-on-our-side-in-syria/

Here is the real quote:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225

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See last item - AQ is on our side in Syria.

Here is the "last item":

Quote:
AL-ZAWAHIRI URGES MUSLIM SUPPORT FOR OPPOSITION
(U) Al-Qaida leader al-Zawahiri called on Muslims in Turkey and the Middle East to aid rebel forces in their fight against supporters of Syrian President Asad in an internet video recording. Al-Zawahiri also urged the Syrian people not to rely on the AL, Turkey, or the United States for assistance. (Reuters)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, December 9, 2024 5:32 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

a reminder this wasn't really about Russia to begin with

it was a about Terrosists or ISIS taking over in 2014, 2015 and the Syria people

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Monday, December 9, 2024 5:39 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

way too early to say where this is going

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Monday, December 9, 2024 5:40 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

just in case people have memories of 'gold fish' ...back then Libya had fallen, a dictator dead and it turned into a mess, Civil War, slave markets and gunning runnning, bombs and missles and terrorist groups selling out of Libya

the Arab Spring almost became a 'Nuclear Winter' there were genuine protests in the Arab world, young, students, workers...but then guns and terrorists flowed into Syria

almost none of the Arab Spring protests ending in any kind of Democrtaic Improvement almost all went backwards
in Libya, the attack was another 911 date
the 11th day of September, 2012
Ambassador Stevens' body was found by a group of Libyans, Obama took part in a cermony for the 4 Americans killed, after the attack, all diplomatic staff were moved to the capital, Tripoli, with nonessential personnel to be flown out of Libya.

in 2012 the Benghazi attack, there is a long thread and threads on the events here...what if? questions if they could be saved, this was was first United States ambassador killed in an attack since Adolph Dubs was killed in Kabul, Afghanistan, in 1979 because it was on 911 they said it should have been seen coming.

then Assad was next, 2014, 2014, Syrians were close to Russians since the Cold War and still close after the ColdWar, Russia had bases, Assad bought stuff from Russia but he didn't want to rule he kind of fell into power

Iraq is invaded 2013 by ISIS

they start killing minority, Christians, the Yezidi

2014

Life Inside the ISIS Home Base of Raqqa, Syria

ISIS continues takeover of Syrian border town

year 2018

Inside the Syrian city of Raqqa after Islamic State's fall

and what happened after all the fighting, Turks played both sides, land grab and Kurdish got fuckedover again?

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Tuesday, December 10, 2024 4:56 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Joe biden now says Jihadis taking over Syria… the WMDs are now a “top-tier priority”.

Why so many ISIS, Taliban and Al-Qaeda flags?

Syria is a complete mess. People are being dragged through the streets and beaten to death. This is what “liberation” looks like.

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1866574398255165833

ISIS or Al-Qaeda?
https://odysee.com/$/news

Street-Justice of ´INCLUSIVE´ Syrian rebels
https://odysee.com/@TMSLL:6/Street-Justice-of-%C2%B4INCLUSIVE%C2%B4-Syrian-rebels:a

the fate of Syria.

Syria Is Under New Management
https://old.bitchute.com/video/oWcA4IP8zKw/

Former British ambassador to Syria Peter Ford interview with GB News

https://rumble.com/v5y0cv8-former-british-ambassador-to-syria-peter-fo
rd-interview-with-gb-news.html

A convoy of former SAA soldiers

https://gab.com/Vorontzov/posts/113630784144538180

All the pieces that brought down Syria’s Assad
https://asiatimes.com/2024/12/all-the-pieces-that-brought-down-syrias-
assad/
Syrian allies Iran, Russia and Hezbollah failed to answer Assad’s call for help while Syrian Army quickly collapsed under rebel assault

Worrying signals from Syria.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1866593074413179153#m
Father Michel Nouman, one of the most well-known priests in Homs, writes about how Islamists have attacked a group of farmers from a Christian village in the Homs region.
They were beaten after being accused of being infidels
Via GrecoLevantines

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'Syria: I'm Confused'
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/12/10/syria-im-confused-n3797757

Quote:
Nine times out of ten, you should be skeptical that the fall of a bad guy means that the people who ousted him are the good guys.

The world rarely works that way, which is why I am more than a little confused by the celebration of the fall of the Assad regime in Syria.

Black Flag Over Damascus

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/black-flag-over-damascus/#comments

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 9:51 AM

THG

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Syria is not Russia's and Iran's Big Fail, it's Biden's* and the neocon's.

Because you think engineering an al Qaeda takeover of Syria is a SUCCESS...

then you're either STOOPID or evil.

But, we all knew that.

*****

Quote:
'Al Qaeda Is on Our Side’: How Obama-Biden team empowered terrorists in Syria
Aaron Maté, 2/20/2022

Jake Sullivan: "AQ [al Qaeda] is on our side in Syria"

https://www.clintonfoundationtimeline.com/february-12-2012-an-email-fr
om-jake-sullivan-to-hillary-al-qaeda-is-on-our-side-in-syria/

BTW, if you review Russia's and Iran's actions in Syria back when ISIS was in the process of taking it over, and since, what you'll see is that they were fighting terrorists, not supporting Assad. For example, they did nothing to stop Israel from bombing Syria. I found this very fine parsing of military support puzzling, but apparently neither Russia nor Iran were "all in" on Assad. Seems they were ready tonlet Assad succeed or fail on his own.

Signym you're the same as Trump and Putin. You just make it up as you type. You twist the truth into confused bullshit. These situations are frothed with confusion. Obviously beyond your capabilities to understand. You’re a simpleton. Putin Assad good, American bad. We didn't create the problems in Syria. We just tried to deal with the madness.

All throughout the Syria thread you denied the truth of what Putin and Assad were doing. They gassed and bombed women and children. It was so bad the Syrians had to build hospitals underground. And, when Putin started bombing and targeting civilians in Ukraine, Syrians went to Ukraine and showed them how to do it. As I've always said, history shows the truth. And all throughout your posting history, as you do in this post, you protect Putin and Assad and blame America.

T

Syria frontline: inside Assad’s notorious jail of torture and execution | BBC News

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 12:20 PM

THG

Signym let's just take the Syria thread. You had a running debate with KPO that went on for years. I could go back through KPO's Syria thread and show every time you offered an opinion, it was anti American, anti-west, and pro Putin and Assad. You denied all the atrocities committed by Putin and Assad. And even placed blame on America for children getting gassed, hospitals being bombed. Not just periodicity, but a full-blown campaign waged against civilians. You comrade, supported it. Just as you support Putin doing the same in Ukraine.

T

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 1:33 PM

THG

7,500 Russian troops trapped in Syria after regime collapse

Alarge Russian military contingent remains in Syria, with an estimated 7,500 personnel as of early 2024. The troops and equipment, including armored vehicles and missile systems, are deployed across various regions.

“In 2017, Moscow and Damascus signed a 49-year agreement for the use of bases in Tartus and Khmeimim. However, it’s uncertain whether these will remain under Russian control,” journalists noted. Russia has indicated it plans to discuss the bases’ future with the new Syrian government.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/7-500-russian-troops-trapped-in-s
yria-after-regime-collapse/ar-AA1vEVWX?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d881b0abd7cc492a80a2bfeb70023ac3&ei=66

I don't know comrade signym what do you think? I mean after what Russia did to the Syrian people.

T

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 1:46 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Who is Abu Mohammed al-Golani: former al Qaeda chief who led overthrow of Syria's Assad?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/abu-mohammed-al-golani-forme
r-al-qaeda-chief-who-is-syrias-leading-rebel-2024-12-05/

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 1:58 PM

THG

The Fall of Syria Changes Everything

The other notable aspect, among many, is that the forces that advanced against the Syrian National Army were very well-trained, well-led. They had a full panoply of modern weapons, including tanks and drones from Ukraine, suggesting that Ukraine saw an opening in Syria to hit back at Russian influence, since the Russians had been the prime supporters—other than the Iranians—of the Assad government. This was not a guerrilla force so much as an organized conventional army, and their training and their equipment showed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-fall-of-syria-changes-everyth
ing/ar-AA1vFylt?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=625c3640d4e54d4c889fa553e6860310&ei=27

Oops...

T

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 2:05 PM

THG

Netanyahu warns of forceful Israeli response if new Syrian leaders ‘allows Iranian re-establishment’

Benjamin Netanyahu has warned of a forceful Israeli response if Syria’s new leadership “allows Iranian re-establishment” following the collapse of Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

The Israeli prime minister said he authorized air forces to bomb strategic military capabilities left by the Syrian army to avoid them falling “into the hands of Jihadists.”

Though Israel welcomed the fall of Assad, an ally of its main enemy Iran, it reacted cautiously to the leading rebel faction, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) which has roots in Islamist movements including al Qaeda and Islamic State — though it has sought to moderate its image.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-warns-of-forceful-israe
li-response-if-new-syrian-leaders-allows-iranian-re-establishment/ar-AA1vF7M9?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=625c3640d4e54d4c889fa553e6860310&ei=47

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 2:40 PM

THG

14 months after Hamas invaded, on the worst day in modern Israeli history, it is the Iranian “Axis of Resistance” that is falling apart, and the State of Israel that is pulling itself together.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-pulls-itself-together-iran
-s-axis-falls-apart/ar-AA1vFRlf?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=aa5dfb9651dc42fabc8d1c9d521462df&ei=27

Iran, Russia and Iran's proxies are just a bunch of paper tigers. Israel ate them all for lunch. Isn't that right comrade signym?

T

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 5:12 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

That Bibi guy, he wants Turks killing Kurdish

seems to hate Christians of Armenia

??

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Netanyahu warns of forceful Israeli response if new Syrian leaders ‘allows Iranian re-establishment’

So the Zionist ChirstKiller Philistine leader, he's cool iwth ISIS or Al-Qaeda?

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