Sign Up | Log In
REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS
Child Murderer Tried as Adult
Saturday, January 29, 2011 4:49 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:43 AM
DREAMTROVE
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: I think we should do it on a sliding scale, individually, in a fashion similar to the tests of manhood from the days of yore, only with less macho bullshit and more ACTUAL relevance.... Stuff like, say, with a budget of X, procure sufficient fuel, drive to the store, purchase and then produce a meal for four people, one of whom is a vegetarian, and do so by Y time. Hell, most "adults" couldn't handle that, but I am just throwing it out there as an example, cause I do in fact use such tests and trials while trying to heal people who were abandoned and badly damaged pyschologically or emotionally as children, the sense of ability and self-sufficiency is very meaningful, and the ability to survive without dependence offers them a mental comfort of "freedom" even though bounded by the usual need to get the bills paid, yadda yadda... Cause it comes to cases, I know 13yr olds I would trust to back me up with a shotgun on a game trail... and 31yr olds I wouldn't - there's "children" (mostly in the realm of 16-17) who I would loan my car with nothing more than an admonition to refuel it, and yet "adults" I not only wouldn't trust with my car, I won't even RIDE in their car - in both cases it is their judgement and maturity I call into question, you see ? So, while a person could and many times does, reach a respectable standard of sane, mature, respectable conduct long before the "magic number".... Simply hitting that number BY NO MEANS guarantees that they have, you know - which is where the howling and screaming and whining and temper tantrums would occur, cause SOME people, case in point the Wulfenwhiner... would *not* be considered "adults" anymore just by coasting on time, they'd have to prove it. And you can just imagine the hissy-fit when they fail, miserably. -Frem I do not serve the Blind God.
Select to view spoiler:
Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:15 AM
BYTEMITE
Quote:What you are implying goes against everything that is known about childhood through the study of human development.
Quote: So kids are the same as adults then? Exactly the same, it's just that we treat them differently?? [...] although it seems pretty bloody obvious to me that children not adults
Quote:Clearly this is kind of new information for some of you, but truly, it aint rocket science.
Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:28 AM
CANTTAKESKY
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: We also don't know how the studies in the links were vetted for inclusion in the text, or under what conditions, and we only ever see one side presented. You act as though this is all fact and beyond question, but sister, that ain't SCIENCE.
Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:25 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: You act as though this is all fact and beyond question, but sister, that ain't SCIENCE.
Saturday, January 29, 2011 1:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: If you want a world where we treat children as mini adults, then more power to you.
Saturday, January 29, 2011 1:27 PM
Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:40 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by canttakesky: Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: He called me RappyYeah, that's pretty bad. But it could have been worse. He could have called someone else "Dreamtrove." I think that is the low point of RWED, when your screenname becomes an insult. I'll hate the day when someone calls somebody else "CTS." Ouch. At least, you and I aren't there--YET. ------- Everything I say is just my opinion, not fact.
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: He called me Rappy
Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:19 PM
Quote:Get them in built up shoes as well so they look taller while they are at it. Lets make em get married at 10 and a job as well, mortgages, the whole kit and kaboodle. Better still start them at 7, or 5, or 2. Childhood, bah humbug. Who needs it.
Quote:It's more science than saying that making assumptions about things based on gut feelings and whimsical recollections of childhood.
Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: He called bullshit (literally) on something DT posted, and told him he was engaging in "Rappy-ism".
Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: They are saying there is no fundamental difference between children and adults, therefore they should be tried and sentenced as adults.
Saturday, January 29, 2011 4:44 PM
Quote:seems to me people are saying this. They are saying there is no fundamental difference between children and adults, therefore they should be tried and sentenced as adults. I disagree most vehementally.
Quote:Frem suggested a sliding scale earlier, and I think he is on the right track.
Saturday, January 29, 2011 6:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: The only people I ever think should be imprisoned are people with mental health problems (including perhaps addictions) to the point they could cause harm to themselves or others.
Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:50 PM
Sunday, January 30, 2011 3:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: I'm not even sure what to say to that. It's as bad as the sex and exploitation of children thing I was just accused of.
Quote: EDIT: an extra "could" slipped in there. I was of course referring to already proven violent psychopaths and violent drug abusers in need of rehab. I was also considering rehabilitation and the question of if rehabilitation is possible.
Sunday, January 30, 2011 4:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Mike Do you find yourself defending the transporter mechanism in klingon, and think that the term Trekkie is derogatory?
Sunday, January 30, 2011 4:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: When you go around claiming that "He called me Rappy", it quite clearly (to me, anyway) indicates that, in your mind at least, he considers you to the the same PERSON as Rappy, or a sockpuppet of Rappy.
Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:03 PM
Monday, January 31, 2011 4:35 PM
Monday, January 31, 2011 6:02 PM
Monday, January 31, 2011 7:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Not only take it, but put it on a pike in the front yard as a warning to others.... -F
YOUR OPTIONS
NEW POSTS TODAY
OTHER TOPICS
FFF.NET SOCIAL