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Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:05 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Or Obama, Bush et all.
Its a small gesture, but it IS something.
I disagree with Frem about the service people tho.

Of course you would. You work for the military, do you not? Not only a fascist, but a hypocrite. Like most fascists, who bray about freedom and then intimidate people they don't like. So I guess you're really nothing special; just a run-of-the-mill douchebag who deserves to be run over by the very people you CLAIM to be "fighting for".

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Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:23 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


When it happens, its going to happen by Tweets and without warning, like Egypt. People are fed up to "here" with being conned, bilked, and manipulated. People are looking around in absolute horror, wondering when "someone" is going to "do something" about the absolute idiocy being foisted by the far right.

The "small government" movement is invading your bedroom and your doctor's office, proposing to make it LEGAL to kill abortion providers. The fucking Tea Partiers and right-wing Xtians, who bray LONG AND LOUD about "freedom" and "small government" would make abortion illegal for anything other than pregnancy by "forcible" rape, leaving the mentally disabled- such as my daughter- defenseless and w/o help. It's allowing the owners to invade and pollute your water sources, smother your Gulf with with a blanket of toxic sludge, and jack you for money so they can bathe in Cristal champagne, fly their private jets here and there and pit us against yet another dirt-poor desperate people.

Wulf, the left has been in paralysis for a couple of years because after electing someone who promised "hope and change", it has taken a bit for them to realize that Obama's on the other side. But I have to say: The left has been FAR quicker to respond to betrayal by the White House than "the right" ever was.... what a bunch of friggin tools they were and STILL are! (Rappy will STILL tell you there were WMD by god, and that the Bush economic policies brought us "growth").

The system has ossified with the vast majority in economic prison. But trust me, there is a backlash growing, and it's not just antigubmint, it goes back to TPTB which are the corrupting influence: the very very wealthy who look at us as nothing more than a resource to be extracted. It's already happening in Wisconsin. People are mad as hell, as well they should be.

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Sunday, February 27, 2011 8:43 AM

BYTEMITE


Wait. Non-consent with mental difference and developmental difference folk is not considered forcible rape?

Yikes. o.0 Something really is wrong with our society.

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Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:39 AM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by SignyM:
People are looking around in absolute horror, wondering when "someone" is going to "do something" about the absolute idiocy being foisted by the far right.


See, I never had this problem, haven't since I was like, eleven, and another student said something of that nature.. "someone should DO something!".
And my first, immediate, and overwhelming thought to it was "Well, shit, *I* am somebody!", and so it went - problem is, our social standards see decency and altrusim as The Enemy, as a weakness or a scourge...
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John McClane: You know what you get for being a hero? Nothin'. You get shot at. You get a little pat on the back, blah, blah, blah, attaboy. You get divorced. Your wife can't remember your last name. Your kids don't want to talk to you. You get to eat a lot of meals by yourself. Trust me, kid, nobody wants to be that guy.

And so thus I became a villain, because what is villainry but the complete and unrelenting repudiation of social norms ?

The moral issue comes in that such is considered "evil", is considered villainry, WITHOUT REGARD TO WHAT THOSE SOCIAL NORMS ARE.

At one time, it was legal to keep slaves, to beat your wife, and so on and so forth, and the folks who stood up to that were not, at the time, seen as heros, oh no, quite the opposite.

The difference, in the end, between heros and villains is as simple as winning or losing, because winners write the historys, as always.

But AT THE TIME, you stand up to something you find personally intolerable, you're not gonna be lauded for it, far from it, you'll be a heretic, a villain, a traitor...

So you have to think, what is more important to you, the approval of a society and social structure you know damn well is poison, or your ability to look yourself in the mirror and not cringe ?

So, do you have what it takes to be a villain ?



-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:50 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Wait. Non-consent with mental difference and developmental difference folk is not considered forcible rape?
Nope! There have to be bruises. So doping someone up with rohypnol, or intimidating a child or mentally disabled woman, or any manner of "non violent" forced sex acts would not be considered "forcible rape". And there's even worse waiting in the wings. These people really ARE the American Taliban.

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Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:55 AM

BYTEMITE


Just... what.

My mind can't even follow that. Non-consent is rape is force.

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