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UPDATED: Monday, April 25, 2011 18:35
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Sig,

Are you "rich" or do you have a high salary?

My reference to "rich people have more time" is those who "own money" not those who have high salaries.

Remember, the poor work just as hard as the high income, it's just to some extent, luck of the draw. I could have had a high income career as a doctor, had I been willing to take on about half a million in debt first. I wasn't willing to take that risk, religious prohibitions against taking loans forbade me from doing so anyway. At the moment, I'm not regretting my decisions.

There's no way to become truly rich in the non-working sense other than inheritance, marriage, lottery or stock option miracle, but stock option disaster is much more common.

I think the high wage earners are often running the hamster wheel just as much as the poor, it's just a bigger wheel. It's also worth noting that there are many among the truly wealthy who run the wheel as well, to maintain their status, but they do socialize a lot to that end.

Currently I think of those with the most free time as the best off, and my only secondary factor would be those with the fewest worries.


Rap,

I'm still curious on your views of Jefferson's take on tyranny.


Niki,

I think Jefferson would say that a poor man has just as much right to a position in apprenticeship, should he demonstrate the ability, as a wealthy one, and just as much place in office should he acquire the skills, has just as much right to own land, should he be able to afford it, and just as much right to speak is mind, not be torture, etc. etc.

I don't think that Jefferson would have said that each man should be given anything to help him achieve those things, rather, that he simply not be hindered. I also suspect that he would envision that he was creating a society in which wealth was not the determinant of a man's future, but rather the strength of his character and the application of his skill and fortitude.

Simultaneously, a financial venture and market capital system was evolving to undermine that idea, but that gets more into Hamilton and co. I don't think Jefferson fully understood the danger of this, I think he was more of an idealist, personal quirks aside.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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