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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

That's the fun part of being an Anarchist.

The Liberals think you're too Conservative.
The Conservatives think you're too Liberal.

The Communists and Socialists hate your guts since they're always arguing about who gets to make resource decisions and you pointing out that no one NEEDS someone else to make that call kicks the foundations out from under their argument.

The Libertarians think you're a threat cause you're either what they'd like to be and do not dare, or cause they're a Randroid pretending those values to get their way and a natural enemy.

The Greens can't stand you cause you point out that Government has more often enabled or initiated ecological carnage than prevented it.

And the Fascists utterly despise you cause you stand in total opposition to everything they are.

While the Government hates you cause you generally ignore them and consider them irrelevant.

Hell is a pretty nice place, when there's nobody in charge of it, you know.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
YOU, yes YOU, have the right to not own a tool.

I, yes I, have the right to own a tool.

The end.

Anything else is the puling of the pathetic.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
YOU, yes YOU, have the right to not own a tool.

I, yes I, have the right to own a tool.

The end.

Anything else is the puling of the pathetic.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Oh and Nick - I might point out that I am prolly not anything like most Anarchists you've met, and certainly not anything like the strawman perceptions fostered about em, certainly I don't get along too well with the rest of em, mostly cause of a specific set of hypocrisy they fall into.

If you go round smashing social-legal structures other people WANT - are you not then imposing your will on them by force as much as any Government ?

But we can discuss that another time and place.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Oh and Nick - I might point out that I am prolly not anything like most Anarchists you've met, and certainly not anything like the strawman perceptions fostered about em, certainly I don't get along too well with the rest of em, mostly cause of a specific set of hypocrisy they fall into.

If you go round smashing social-legal structures other people WANT - are you not then imposing your will on them by force as much as any Government ?

But we can discuss that another time and place.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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If you would like I'm up for it. We can start a thread. For me Anarchy like libertarianism does not seem t hold up. Maybe your way of Anarchy is different.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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The idea that somehow guns 'equalize' the weak with the strong is false. Guns empower the aggressive.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

That's the fun part of being an Anarchist.

The Liberals think you're too Conservative.
The Conservatives think you're too Liberal.

The Communists and Socialists hate your guts since they're always arguing about who gets to make resource decisions and you pointing out that no one NEEDS someone else to make that call kicks the foundations out from under their argument.

The Libertarians think you're a threat cause you're either what they'd like to be and do not dare, or cause they're a Randroid pretending those values to get their way and a natural enemy.

The Greens can't stand you cause you point out that Government has more often enabled or initiated ecological carnage than prevented it.

And the Fascists utterly despise you cause you stand in total opposition to everything they are.

While the Government hates you cause you generally ignore them and consider them irrelevant.

Hell is a pretty nice place, when there's nobody in charge of it, you know.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"It's factually incorrect to say that a gun can't serve to level the playing field between the weaker and the stronger. It can. It has."

But far more often it empowers the aggressive. Just look at the gun-murder statistics.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Nick: Yeah, anarchy isn't really about bomb throwing or V for Vendetta stereotypes. There's a lot more nuance than it's given credit for. There's distrust for the military/intelligence/corporate/industrial/government complex, sure, which to a degree is healthy I think, because a dislike for corruption and constant vigilance against it is the only way to keep a republic on the straight and narrow.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Obviously. As tool using humans, we have built killing machines that exceed the capacity of the knife. But since there is more than one way to skin a cat, we should broaden our gaze.

As a child, I used to get 'homework notices' for failing to do my homework. These were slips of paper explaining my naughtiness to my parents. If my parents saw these slips, I would be punished. So I used to hide them, destroy them, throw them away. To my child mind, this seemed like an adequate solution to the problem.

As it turned out, there were other methods for the teacher to reach out to my parents, and I was eventually punished anyway. The respite was temporary, and the tranquility was an illusion.

I do not mean to say that killings and homework have anything in common.

But the thought process that says removing the homework notices will solve the problem has a lot in common with the mentality that says removing the guns will solve the problem. Not to mention that once established, "Remove the tool" can go on to reach ludicrous levels. After guns, then knives, then anything that can possibly be a weapon. Till all law abiding citizens are empty handed.

Removing guns is a crutch that serves only to place the weak at the mercy of the strong. This is a good arrangement for the strong. Not so much for the rest of us.

In my opinion.

--Anthony

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