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Infrastructure , built and paid for , not by govt ( which has nothing it doesn't take from the people, by force ) but by we the people.

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But it's a straw man to claim that no one builds a business on their own.

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It's the individual who risks their own money, puts in their own time, uses their own brains and sweat

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to ...yes, BUILD their own business.

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That's what we WANT,people working HERE, and not over seas, isn't it?

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This class war fare gig of Obama's is what some saw wrong with this guy for a long time. Now everyone sees what he's about. Or at least, enough see to vote his ass out come November.

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The Romney campaign has been making much out of an out-of-context President Obama quote.
Speaking in Roanoke, Virginia on July 13 about the necessity of government for services such as infrastructure, the president said “If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help…Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.”
Listen to it for yourself: the remarks in question were roughly 33 minutes and 40 seconds into the speech:
The Romney campaign, has suggested that the president was telling business owners that they didn’t create their own business, taking the “If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that” remark out of context.
In a campaign ad, the Romney campaign spliced out the “roads and bridges” the president seemed to be referring to as “that” when he said “you didn’t build that.”
In a new TV ad, Romney features an offended New Hampshire businessman, saying, “My father’s hands didn’t build this company? My hands didn’t build this company? My son’s hands aren’t building this company?”

The New Hampshire Union Leader’s John DiStato today reports that in 1999 the business in question, Gilchrist Metal, “received $800,000 in tax-exempt revenue bonds issued by the New Hampshire Business Finance Authority ‘to set up a second manufacturing plant and purchase equipment to produce high definition television broadcasting equipment’…” In addition, in 2011, Gilchrist Metal “received two U.S. Navy sub-contracts totaling about $83,000 and a smaller, $5,600 Coast Guard contract in 2008…”

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Infrastructure , built and paid for , not by govt... but by we the people. But it's a straw man to claim that no one builds a business on their own. It's the individual who risks their own money, puts in their own time, uses their own brains and sweat to ...yes, BUILD their own business. That's what we WANT,people working HERE, and not over seas, isn't it?

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"The point is, when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

That's what we WANT,people working HERE, and not over seas, isn't it?

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

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That's what we WANT,people working HERE, and not over seas, isn't it?

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But... Bain was outsourc-
no... no, forget it.

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured Operatives

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Bain came in AFTER these companies had basically already failed. They weren't thriving, strong businesses, and then Bain simply shows up, fires everyone, and liquidates the assets, and then is off to the Caribbean for a well deserved paid vacation.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Dangit, Mike, we keep duplicating one another...or more like, lately, YOU keep duplicating ME! I put up Jon's entire wonderful segment on that ( http://beta.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=52553&p=2), and here I find it in another thread!

That's okay, I like your way, too...how did you get those screen shots?! Did you get them from some site, or create them yourself? They're very well done, but left out one of his best lines: "Hanging your entire political argument on a person's slight grammatical misstep is what people do in an argument when they're completely fucked and they know they have no argument!"

You also missed that the little girls with the lemonade stand said they'd gotten help from their "investors"--their parents. All in all, the Romney camp's game doesn't work...but of course it works GREAT for people who hear their claims over and over and over but never hear the whole thing.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

there you go again

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