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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:


Leaving aside PNs rather obvious baiting here, I did spot one photo of a so-called "rioter" which made me laugh...

This was the best I could do to scale up the originally smaller image.



Again, the shoes, always the shoes - mind you, as SOON as people noticed that AP went and cropped the bottom of the photo, not like those pants ain't a dead giveaway too.

And this slightly larger/clearer one after they did, with a little wider angle.



Okay, this is OBVIOUSLY staged, I don't see much of a crowd, or crowd reaction, and this beefy white guy is supposed to be a "rioter", yeah, riiiiight, even his fucking posture screams cop, not to mention that garbage can looks awful new, and the window he's chucking it at appears to be of a conveniently empty storefront.

Ah, and while posting someone found me a copy of the original AP photo for best quality.



Go on, tell me that ain't a cop, tell me this isn't a staged bullshit photo.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Are you fucking kidding me!

SGG

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Zimmerman would have peed his pants if he came upon a Real Thug. Someone with a gun who would have shot his ass. And you guys would scream Bloody Murder. I hope he goes on the prowl again, I really do, and I hope he comes across a real criminal. And I hope that guy comes with guns a-blazing.......

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Not one jot.

And not only should this case never even GONE to trial, Zimmerman now has every right to sue * NBC, the prosecutor, AND ( are you ready ?) the estate of Trayvon Martin , for attempted murder.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

You think a shooting death shouldn't go to trial? Really? This is the kind of society you want to live in where you just have to CLAIM self defense and your word is taken. End of story.

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Originally posted by AURaptor

I do, as well as do many in the legal profession. The evidence coincided with Zimmerman's testimony. Not just his WORD was taken. This was a politically driven witch hunt, and nothing less. The cops initially looked at the evidence, it synced up with the witnesses, the testimony and, as we saw after this meaningless show trial, while tragic, the death was justified.

END OF STORY.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Feeling devastated at the loss of a family member , by what ever means, doesn't justify a lynch mob mentality and skirting the rule of law.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Feeling devastated at the loss of a family member , by what ever means, doesn't justify a lynch mob mentality and skirting the rule of law.

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A lynch mob is exactly the opposite of taking a matter to trial. You do understand that, right?

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Zimmerman doesn't last a year before the hood catches up to him

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A wulfs view of the case: A decent guy (no saint) was trying to make amends, make a positive difference in his community, help his neighbors, protect his family from evil... came across a "person" who made his hackles stand up. Following procedure, he reported said "persons" whereabouts.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Gonna say this one more time, and maybe it will sink into rightwingbut heads:

Once GZ approached TM with a gun, TM had the right to "stand his ground". Once TM "stands his ground". then GZ has the right to "stand HIS ground". That's where the law leads: immediate escalation into violence, and only the survivor wins. But GZ initiated the whole situation, and he is morally culpable. The law is an ass. No, more to the point, the law is a whore: she sells to the highest bidder.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I do, as well as do many in the legal profession. The evidence coincided with Zimmerman's testimony. Not just his WORD was taken. This was a politically driven witch hunt, and nothing less. The cops initially looked at the evidence, it synced up with the witnesses, the testimony and, as we saw after this meaningless show trial, while tragic, the death was justified.

END OF STORY.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It was political pressure which got the police chief fired in Sanford. It was political pressure which got GZ arrested in the first place. It was political pressure ( and hubris ) which made the prosecution go for 2nd degree murder, instead of the more realistic charge of manslaughter. Political pressure brought on by a figurative lynch mob, genned up by the MSM and race merchants like Al and Jessie.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Gonna say this one more time, and maybe it will sink into rightwingbut heads:

Once GZ approached TM with a gun, TM had the right to "stand his ground". Once TM "stands his ground". then GZ has the right to "stand HIS ground". That's where the law leads: immediate escalation into violence, and only the survivor wins. But GZ initiated the whole situation, and he is morally culpable. The law is an ass. No, more to the point, the law is a whore: she sells to the highest bidder.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
So would you be okay if a member of your family had been shot and the person who did it was not brought to trial? Would you be satisfied if the police told you it was in self defence even though your relative was unarmed?

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To me lethal force is required only if your life is in immediate danger ie someone points a gun at you. Reasonable force (if any self defense was justifiable) might have been hitting Travvon with the gun rather than shooting him.

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I have to say I haven't read details of the evidence, so can't argue one way or another, but it seemed to me that if Travvon had lived he might have argued his actions were in self defense as well.

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