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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:06 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: No, Kwick, again you have missed the point... NOONE comes into your home and tell you how to run things. ESPECIALLY, if THEIR home is a piece of shit... But silly me for declaring U.S. sovereignty... Yeah, its OUR home, its our rules, its our way of life... but, according to Kwick here... some assclown overlording a FAILED country should be able to come to OUR center of government and lecture us on how to do things. The best part, the most HIlarious part of this? The Dems stood up and cheered! Isn't that great? Isn't that just PERFECT?
Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: You're saying the Founding Fathers of this country didn't have the guts to try to make England better? I would argue that they did make England better. They turned the best part of England into the United States...I urge Mexico to try the same thing, go home and become the United States, I'll even loan you some Texans and a Crockett or two to show you how its done.
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: You're saying the Founding Fathers of this country didn't have the guts to try to make England better?
Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Yes, let's hurt people. And also flood emergency rooms with people who have no insurance. Good plan. I know you're kidding, but that's really not funny.
Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:05 AM
HERO
Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: You simpleton, that IS what they're doing! They're turning the southwestern part of the United States (what some would call "the best part" of the U.S.) into Mexico. You should cheer them on! They're freedom fighters! Y'know, just not YOUR freedom. Theirs. They should be applauded.
Quote: And you're going to loan them some Texans and a Crockett to show them... what, exactly? How to die?
Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Yeah, he works for that government. As a low-level civil servant, according to him.
Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:38 AM
BYTEMITE
Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: I didn't hear you mention a safety net, and anything that could fire someone from one state into another, just the acceleration could kill them.
Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:49 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:14 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:The incident at issue occurred during the MCSO's February raid of county contractor Handyman Maintenance, Inc. Both Julian Mora, 66, and his son Julio,19, were driving towards HMI in Phoenix when two MCSO SUVs cut them off 100 yards from the business where the elder Mora worked. MCSO deputies zip-tied both men, transported them to the worksite and made them wait for three hours, during which time they were denied access to the bathroom. Julio Mora is an American citizen, and his father Julian is a legal permanent resident. Both live in Avondale. "Julian explained that he has always been one to follow the law," stated ACLU of Arizona Executive Director Alessandra Soler Meetze, translating for Mora senior. "He felt targeted. He felt persecuted, He felt humiliated." His son Julio, who was at the press conference with his wife Victoria and their two-month-old daughter Cecilia, said that he's still wary of the MCSO profiling him or targeting him for possible retaliation. "Every time you go to a friend's house, you've got to look over your shoulder," said Julio, who was simply taking his father to work that day in February when they were both unlawfully detained. "I don't feel right looking over my shoulder all the time." The Moras were effectively taken prisoner by armed MCSO personnel without any explanation for their arrest.
Quote:Virdianna Ramirez a manager of a McDonalds and an American-born citizen was taken into custody with others who were suspected of being illegal immigrants. She was released four hours later and not charged with anything. Authorities claim it was a misunderstanding.
Quote:A Valley man was pulled over Wednesday morning and questioned when he arrived at a weigh station for his commercial vehicle along Val Vista and the 202 freeway. Abdon says he provided several key pieces of information but what he provided apparently was not what was needed. He tells 3TV, “I don't think it's correct, if I have to take my birth certificate with me all the time.” His wife Jackie tells 3TV, “It's still something awful to be targeted. I can't even imagine what he felt, people watching like he was some type of criminal.” Abdon was told he did not have enough paperwork on him when he pulled into a weigh station to have his commercial truck checked. He provided his commercial driver’s license and a social security number but ended up handcuffed. An agent called his wife and she had to leave work to drive home and grab other documents like his birth certificate. Jackie explains, “I have his social security card as well and mine. He's legit. It's the first time it's ever happened.” Both were born in the United States and say they are now both infuriated that keeping important documents safely at home is no longer an option. Jackie says, “It doesn't feel like it's a good way of life, to live with fear, even though we are okay, we are legal…still have to carry documents around.”
Quote:Today, Cuentame — a project of Brave New Films — posted a video interview with Phoenix police officer Paul Dobson’s reaction to Arizona’s new immigration law, SB-1070. In Cuentame’s video, Dobson expresses his own opposition to the law and how he believes it will affect his ability to fulfill his duties:Quote:This [SB-1070] law will make me feel like a Nazi out there. [...] How I feel about SB-1070 is I have a great deal of contempt for it, I am very emotional about it. This law is pure and simple a racist law. It is focused on Latinos. I would not be able to show any discretion whatsoever under SB-1070. I am required to arrest that person and take them to jail. As a law enforcement officer I am required to serve and protect. Under SB-1070, I know that people will not call officers in case of a real emergency. [...] It violates our calling to serve and protect.Dobson isn’t the only officer on the Phoenix police force that is against SB-1070. David Salgado is a 19-year Phoenix police officer who has sued the city and the governor asking that the law be blocked. “Before the signing of this bill, citizens would wave at me,” said Salgado. “Now they don’t even want to make eye contact.” Tucson police officer Martin Escobar has also filed a lawsuit, saying there is no such thing as “race-neutral” criteria for him to determine “reasonable suspicion” that someone is in the country illegally. Meanwhile, the Arizona Association of Chiefs of Police (AAOP) has said SB-1070 is “problematic and will negatively affect the ability of law enforcement agencies across the state to fulfill their many responsibilities in a timely manner.” The president of the Arizona Fraternal Order of Police — an association of sworn law enforcement officers — has also expressed concerns that the bill “will bankrupt our city.” “What’s going to happen is you’re going to fear the police…they’re [immigrants] going to shy away from us instead of coming forward with information,” stated Sgt. Bryan Soller in a local interview.
Quote:This [SB-1070] law will make me feel like a Nazi out there. [...] How I feel about SB-1070 is I have a great deal of contempt for it, I am very emotional about it. This law is pure and simple a racist law. It is focused on Latinos. I would not be able to show any discretion whatsoever under SB-1070. I am required to arrest that person and take them to jail. As a law enforcement officer I am required to serve and protect. Under SB-1070, I know that people will not call officers in case of a real emergency. [...] It violates our calling to serve and protect.
Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:24 AM
Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:36 AM
Quote: His entire point seems to be to lecture someone about how we won't be lectured to
Quote: NOONE comes into your home and tell you how to run things. ESPECIALLY, if THEIR home is a piece of shit... But silly me for declaring U.S. sovereignty... Yeah, its OUR home, its our rules, its our way of life... but, according to Kwick here... some assclown overlording a FAILED country should be able to come to OUR center of government and lecture us on how to do things.
Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:40 AM
Quote:And that's the sum total of your argument. You can't offer up any substantive, reasonable reply, other than dole out insults and dismissive, personal comments.
Quote:Why not just answer the question, and stop trying to change the subject or hurl mindless, petty insults ?
Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:47 AM
Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Nix, the spokeswoman for the new One World Order. It amazes me, again, that those with no experience still seek to promote policy.
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