How to win an argument with Liberals-Progressives-Socialists-etc... by Wulfenstar

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Its called a magazine you...

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Monday, June 6, 2011 10:40 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 10:53 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Cost of a car, plus insurance, plus gas...

2000+

Cost of a Glock, plus bullets, plus 30 rd MAG...

500+

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Monday, June 6, 2011 11:22 AM

It probably depends on what's most convenient at the moment, the terrain, and what you have at the time.

For example, If the gun isn't on you for whatever reason, you would undoubtedly be keeping this gun of yours in the truck of your car for just such an emergency, or the backseat.

If you have to go to your car anyway to get a gun, maybe you're better off just using the car. Or maybe you're driving in the car when you witness the thugs cornering their prospective victim. It would be slower to stop the car and get out the gun than to charge the gang in your car. Maybe there's a circumstance where you have concerns that you might be noticed and killed before you stop the gang, and the car would be advantageous for a surprise hit-and-run tactic.

The two places I can think of where the gun would be more useful than the car is if the area where the crime is occurring is too narrow to permit the passage of the car, or if there are enough people involved that you can't be sure to get them all with the first sweep of your car, which would set you up for maybe having your tires shot out, or having to go back into the horde without the element of surprise, or maybe give the attackers a chance to finish their dirty deeds and whatnot.

Of course, both together under the right circumstances could also be effective.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:21 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
A long time ago, I posted a story about a group of ...people... raping a young girl for hours, as a crowd looked on.

The responses I got from the left-minded people here were.... maddening, horrible, (whats a word for people who make you wish you were an alien that could swoop down and throw all of the people who thought like they did into the sun?)

Kinda sounds like maybe you wanted to rape them all for hours. After all, throwing them all into the sun isn't a whole bunch better for them, is it?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hardware:
Niki, please explain how using a car on a crowd is less dangerous than using a gun.

Maybe when we start having a rash of mass-murder-by-car crimes going on, we can look at that as a real issue.

Hey, maybe then you'll start crying "If only there'd been one more car there, this could have all been prevented!"

Seriously, you post some of the stupidest shit this world has ever seen.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:32 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Niki, actually all I really wanted to do was encourage him to reveal his true colors once again by sticking a pin in his frail, pathetic ego - and sure enough he hops on command like a good little puppet.
As I am fond of pointing out, once you know all the right little phrases and buzzwords they've programmed themselves to jump to, you can make em dance for YOU, any time you like and they don't even realize it.
S'what happens when you give up control of your own will and intellect to an outside source without question, anyone who knows how to format the commands owns your ass.

You listenin, Wulfie ?
Maybe you should see to that.

Anyhows, yeah, he's fulla shit, the actual thread is here, if anyone is willing to dredge through his racist, whiny bullshit to bother reading it.
http://168.215.229.9/mthread.asp?b=18&t=40622

Quote:
Originally posted by Hardware:
Niki, please explain how using a car on a crowd is less dangerous than using a gun.

Less dangerous to YOU, not them - in fact lemme find the post in question for you.

What I ACTUALLY said was thus.

Quote:
Wulf, while I don't believe all of it is justified, some of the folk who're giving you shit have a point in that your tactics do somewhat suck.

I've actually taken something of a pounding trying to break up what appeared to be an assault headed in the direction of rape, but was in fact a marital spat over infidelity - which got me roughed up by the both of em, mind you - it was stupid to intervene but I was young, proud and foolish - and I'd prolly do so again, but not charging in willy-nilly like that, oh hell no.

First, hell yes, call the cops - for all their flaws they're better armed and equipped, and have more manpower than you do.

Second, direct engagement is counterproductive when you are that badly outnumbered - being able to play on crowd pyschology is a skill you do not have and thus makes it a losing proposition and adds one more target - armed or not you can be quickly overwhelmed by folks too hopped up on mindbending substances or just wired on adrenalin rush who will not react in a logical fashion.

That doesn't mean you cannot intervene, it just means you need different tactics - as mentioned, the last thing you wanna be when the cops show up is in a position to be mistaken for an armed perp, that's bad bad news.

I woulda went and got my car, then while laying solid on the horn and highbeams, slowly rolled it towards them - an action with some risk involved, but also with a fast line of retreat, since if they deployed firearms or charged the vehicle you can slam it into reverse and make a J-turn, and if they DID pursue it splits them up and throws them off what they're doing - they're not likely to catch a car on foot, and as a calculated risk it's better than a headfirst engagement against superior numbers.

Also, one could run back into the school and pull the fire alarm, the more ruckus and racket you can throw at them, cast them into confusion while keeping a clear head yourself - that opens OPTIONS, it gives you that third line of thinking and enough of an edge to maybe be useful in a situation instead of escalating it.

Again, armed or not, the best weapon in a crisis is the one between your ears, not the one in your holster - that is for the last ditch defense of your person at short range and should never be used in an aggressive fashion whatever.

Flinging bullets willy-nilly into a "situation" isn't as a general rule, a very good idea - and in THAT one, chances of hitting a bystander would likely have made it a dead-letter issue to anyone with an ounce of sense.
Which of course leaves Wulfie out, who once again has proven beyond all doubt he's incapable of even comprehending any response that doesn't jibe with his little plastic bubble worldview.
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/violence_geeks.htm
Marc MacYoung sums it up perfectly, there.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:30 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Hardware: I can't remember precisely the wording of the discussion. The idea was some number of guys, over ten I think, were raping her, and Wulf wanted to go in blazing with a gun. If any of those guys had a gun...like more than one of them...what do you think would happen? A shoot-out, which might injure quite a few people. Someone suggested driving your car up to the guys, which would startle them and make them jump back, while not threatening them individually and keeping oneself safe to boot. One could always reverse if anyone showed a weapon. There were numerous suggestions made by different people, and everyone agreed SOMETHING should be done. There was just no agreement that Wulf's usual method, dreaming of coming in, gun a-blazing and becoming the kind of hero he's constantly putting up in videos, was the best idea. I'm not as good as Mike at going back and finding old threads, but I KNOW that the responses weren't “horrible” and were only “maddening” to Wulf because most of us didn’t agree with him. Like Raptor, I’m realizing they don’t READ what is actually written, then they carry what they think they read for the rest of their days, convinced that was real.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:33 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Damn, I hate not being able to edit. I wanted to add that with the car blinking its headlights and honking like crazy; people comitting crimes don't usually like a lot of attention being brought to what they're doing. Another person also suggested using one's cell phone to call the police. It was a long discussion. The point is, it wasn't what Wulf now chooses to characterize it as being (or remembers it to have been, not sure which).

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:35 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

No, Wulf, you're right. I DID say I wouldn't have said it in quite those words, and I'll say clearly that Frem went over the line, in my opinion. Because you and Raptor frustrate me so much (one reason I'm not here as much, I haven't mastered not taking the bait yet), there was a visceral enjoyment out of how pissed off he was. But no, I don't see you quite the same way (tho' some of it rings true) and I wouldn't have said those things to or about you.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:37 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Ah, sorry KPO...I'm responding as I read. I should have left it for you, who answered the question more precisely. And I forgot, it all revolved around a thread Wulf put up about a 30-round clip being NEEDED (right after that shooting). Thanx, KPO, you reminded me of that. I'm going to read all the posts before responding to any more.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:45 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Byte, KPO got it right, it was about that 30-round clip, and Wulf was convinced he could run in shooting and solve the situation. It wasn’t about hitting any of the rapists, just startling them from the safety of a car (so you could get back out quickly and safely...shot-out tires don’t stop a car) and making a lot of noise and stuff, I believe. Wasn’t “car v. gun” as weapon, and the whole thing revolved around whether a 30-round clip was something that would in and of itself solve the situation.

Oops, reading down I see Frem has cleared up the controversy on that part, anyway...and you can see just how “horrible and maddening” his response was. Thanx for finding the thread, Frem; anyone who wants to judge what Wulf finds so sickening he’d like to see people killed over writing can go there and make up their own mind. Me, I’d just as soon forget that discussion, it was another of those trying-to-get-through-to-Wulf things I got caught up in and still fight not to get roped into.

And Frem: Kuddos. You got ME--note my visceral reaction, as I said--with your verbiage, too, which only goes to show 'ya...

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:58 PM

KANEMAN

You guys are the best...this
Thread reminds me of old times...fucking hilarious

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Monday, June 6, 2011 5:25 PM

I wasn't contradicting anything anyone had said in this thread. I was directly responding to Wulf about strategy.

Frem: I have to confess to more than a few of those tendencies myself. I particularly like swords, maybe it's just the shiny, or the sound they make, or the way they look in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing...

Which is not me. I'm more of an old fashioned fisticuffs person, which is maybe for the best. I think hand to hand training, while all of this is less convenient than a gun, requires more control and restraint, which is probably something I need. Big fan of the martial arts, and all the discipline.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 5:53 PM

HARDWARE

Well, the correct order of use is; Brain, feet, gun. Insert phone when appropriate and use of same does not endanger you.

Intervening in a gang rape is a good way to become a guest of honor at a stomp circle. Mobs are ugly, stupid animals and unless you can pick out the definitive leader (assuming one exists) you are better off backing off and contacting the police. Document with photographs and/or video if you can without drawing attention.

Sad to say you can get a faster response if you call in to 911 and report a fire with injuries than calling in a rape in progress. Rapes don't get out of control and consume whole neighborhoods.

No, guns aren't the smart answer. But if it was someone I knew or one of my relatives I can't say for certain which way I would jump.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Monday, June 6, 2011 6:04 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Gotcha Hardware. Somewhere in that thread I kinda said the same thing, that I would probably try to do something even tho' if I thought about it I would know it was the height of stupidity. For me, wouldn't matter who it was, I've done it even for dogs. Some of us react to help those in need reflexively, it's not something we choose and I'm NOT saying it's a good thing. It's brought me trouble in the past, but I wouldn't be any other way, certainly not someone drooling for an excuse to find something they can point to as justifying a 30-round clip.

You kinda made the argument we did at the time, about calling for help; if I recall correctly, that caused Wulf to call us some kind of name(s) and say we were cowards or something. I forget. And want it to stay that way. Thank you.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 2:45 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

I still say I was right about that situation. (but you already knew that)

An example: A building is on fire. You can see that on the third floor, there are children trapped. The entrance is a mess and the fire is out of control.

What do you do?

You can call 911 (which is the least and most basic thing as a human being you MUST do), and then wait for the fire department to arrive.

Or.

You can call 911 and then go in to try and help.

Maybe you can stand to hear children being burned alive, while you wait.

I couldn't. But that's me. And according to many, MANY here that makes me some sort of crazy idiot.

Its a choice. Is your life worth being put on the line to help strangers you never met?

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 3:22 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Ain't a matter of *IF*, dumbass, it's a matter of HOW - chargin into a "situation" all willy-nilly is usually just a recipe for one more victim.

In fact, it's actually the SMART thing to do, to pull up short of a "situation" on approach and catch your breath instead of arriving winded, and pick your approach with care while observing the situation - that way if you're only gonna get ONE chance, you can make it count for as much as possible, or even get the drop on the potentive opposition completely.
(Which, if total enough, can shut DOWN a situation instead of escalating it, as barging straight in is wont to do)

Of course, words wasted on you, Wulfenwhiner, cause all you're doing is playing What-If-Monkey and throwing "27 ninjas questions"...
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/WIMS.htm
In order to re-frame any situation till it "justifies" killing someone, either cause you don't like them over race, culture or ideology, or to feed your ego, I don't much care - which ties right in with your jackboot licking, since you think if the "right" people obtain power you'll have free reign to commit whatever abuses you like on people you don't like...

Quote:
Jackals: "Finally, we have a strong leader ready to put those malcontents in their places! Where do I sign up?" Jackals are like Lemmings and Snakes: they eagerly collaborate with the villain because they think his campaign of terror and genocide are just causes. Whether it's out of hate, fanaticism, or ignorance, they prefer the villain's despotism to a more benevolent regime. Usually, they're harmless once the villain is dethroned: their prejudice comes out only when the bad guys are in power.

Of course it never occurs to you that the first folk to go will be the unreliable lunatics (i.e. YOU) they dare not leave lingering about for some Robespierre wannabe (like yours truly) to manipulate against them - learn some fucking history, idjit.

Oh, and Niki ?
I wasn't ever kidding about my ability to wind people up - the local law is only *half* kidding about that voice of saruman thing and the notion of taping my mouth shut if they ever have to arrest me... cause I damn well *can* stir up an angry mob lickety-split, which is easier than you'd ever imagine anywhere near Detroit, cause them folk got a damn lot to be angry ABOUT, and pushing the right buttons don't take a whole damn lot.

For a fact, if I really wanted to trash this place, I could do more damage with a megaphone than a half ton of TNT.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 4:36 AM

THEHAPPYTRADER

I can see how being a 'hero' is appealing to a young (and single?) person but Frem has a point on how charging in could just create more victims.

Before judging others on the 'inaction' remember that some people have more than only themselves to live for. Would you advocate a single mother charge into that building? Sometimes it's harder not to 'act' (outside of calling authorities) but it really is the best option.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 4:48 AM

Wulf isn't single, which is part of the reason he really ought to take more care. Leaving behind loved ones or dependents is one of the worst things I can imagine. Cut your ties well in advance of doing anything like this, I say.

But then, if Wulf is a jackal, I'm a boar, so I guess I would be the kind to say that. If I'm lucky, I'll end up being a porcupine.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 4:56 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Wulf is still searching for that real-life situation where a gun with 30 rounds is necessary and life-saving. There are plenty of unlikely, hypothetical situations - they happen all the time in movies, and that's probably what Wulf has in his mind every time he straps on his gun.

Meanwhile, no real-life cases where this kind of firepower is called for - but numerous real life cases where they have been used to deadly effect in shooting sprees.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 4:57 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Happy, you might be right.

But it does come down to a philosophy.

Is your life, and the people who count on you, worth more than the life of an innocent victim?

Also, I get the part about possibly making it worse. But, isn't it just as important, even if you failed, to have tried?

To the victim I mean. That at least someone TRIED to help, TRIED to stop it?

http://www.tbd.com/blogs/tbd-on-foot/2011/01/man-attacked-by-kids-at-l
-enfant-metro----bystanders-watch-film-6880.html

http://www.suntimes.com/5807665-417/flash-mob-victim-it-just-happened-
too-quick.html

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:05 AM

HKCAVALIER

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Btw... heh. I know its a little juvenile... but I think I know WHY there are so many angry liberal women here...

Um...er...or you could see that video as an indication that conservatives will only pay attention to a woman if she's conventionally good looking? I promise you: there are a lot of conservative women who don't have a voice and you will never hear of because they don't have the right look. I mean "conservative" does refer to a person's values and endorsing archaic notions of femininity to the point of requiring your famous women to be "hot" kinda makes one conservative, don'it? Or as you put it, juvenile. Just sayin'.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:06 AM

Quote:
Is your life, and the people who count on you, worth more than the life of an innocent victim?

Also, I get the part about possibly making it worse. But, isn't it just as important, even if you failed, to have tried?

Both valid points, but that's why you try to remove the bystander parts of the equation. You make sure you don't have people who like you or rely on you. Then it isn't even an issue.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:55 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
So Kwick...

"I didn't bother watching any of those..."

Your whole argument is: "I refuse to, at the very least, even HEAR your argument. So I'm going to just post MY views."

Thats awesome man. Really. I mean damn, wow, and other words of thanks!

If it were anyone else but you, Wulftard, I'd be surprised that someone was dumb enough to think they had made an argument without actually forming a sentence.

But it IS you, so surprise is unwarranted.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:57 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:

It's not easy to 'win' against a liberal/pregressive/socialists-etc because they (much like anyone else with politics) have last-word-itus.

We also have this pesky habit of relying on facts, rther than basing our worldview on a vision of how things "should be", established in the 1950's.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 7:04 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

"We also have this pesky habit of relying on facts, rther than basing our worldview on a vision of how things "should be", established in the 1950's."

This statement is typical... and sad.

No Story, you don't base your worldview on the 1950s... thats true.

You base it on dingbats from the 1960s, who based THEIR views on Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and Chavez.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 7:17 AM

...?

Um, Hitler died in 1945, Stalin died in 1953, Hugo Chavez was born in 1954 and didn't really do anything with his life until he joined the Venezuelan military in 1971, and no one would've paid any attention to Pol Pot until 1975, when he became leader of Cambodia.

I mean, the only two who could possibly have had any influence on people in the 60s would've been Hitler and Stalin.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitle7vljslfu
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CommieNazis

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 7:38 AM

That said, I think it's time for FIREWORKS!

Some brewskies, maybe even some barbeque, and a couple pounds of explosives laced with incendiary spectrochemical powders.

In Utah, they made it so we could set off fireworks through June and July. Fortunately, it has been a wet season. Also, they're selling roman candles, but you have to ask for the good stuff, the old bylaws make it so they can't display them for purchase.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 7:56 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

YAY Fireworks!

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 8:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Happy, you might be right.

But it does come down to a philosophy.

Is your life, and the people who count on you, worth more than the life of an innocent victim?

Also, I get the part about possibly making it worse. But, isn't it just as important, even if you failed, to have tried?

To the victim I mean. That at least someone TRIED to help, TRIED to stop it?

http://www.tbd.com/blogs/tbd-on-foot/2011/01/man-attacked-by-kids-at-l
-enfant-metro----bystanders-watch-film-6880.html

http://www.suntimes.com/5807665-417/flash-mob-victim-it-just-happened-
too-quick.html

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

You have this notion of us (those of us to the left of you on the political spectrum, I mean), that because we believe governments should try to help people, that we automatically abdicate any sense that WE should try to help people also.

I'm not sure where you get that, I'm really not.

I've pulled people from wrecks, I've rushed into a house to help an elderly man who had fallen and was wedged between his bed and the wall, and couldn't breathe (I was riding my bike, and someone ran outside and yelled for help, so I jumped off to see what was the matter. That was more than 20 years ago, and I've never mentioned it to a single human being until now. Not even my wife knows about it, and I left no name, because I am *NOT* any kind of "hero", and refuse to be called such for doing what any human being SHOULD do), I've been shot at, I've held people's hands while they died.

OF COURSE people should try to help, in any way they feel they can - and sometimes probably in ways they are sure they can't. Point is, I want my government to also be there to help, if nothing else, as a safety net for when there ISN'T anyone else.

You claim to be all about being a hero, but if it came down to it, you'd happily let people die if they were poor, elderly, alone, or just didn't subscribe to your beliefs.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 8:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"We also have this pesky habit of relying on facts, rther than basing our worldview on a vision of how things "should be", established in the 1950's."

This statement is typical... and sad.

No Story, you don't base your worldview on the 1950s... thats true.

You base it on dingbats from the 1960s, who based THEIR views on Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and Chavez.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

Really? Are you actually that ignorant?

WHO was basing their worldview on those folks in the 60s? WHO are these "dingbats" you refer to? Hippies? Not likely - they weren't big on Hitler or Stalin, and as Byte pointed out, wouldn't have even heard of Pol Pot or Hugo Chavez. And the hippies weren't big on Pol Pot later when he came to power in Cambodia, either. Liberals didn't fare well under the Khmer Rouge. It was really YOUR kind of place. Well, yours and Sarah Palin's.

Maybe she can call hers the Khmer Rogue. ;)

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 8:39 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

"Point is, I want my government to also be there to help, if nothing else, as a safety net for when there ISN'T anyone else."

A note on this statement:

"You have this notion of us (those of us to the left of you on the political spectrum, I mean), that because we believe governments should try to help people, that we automatically abdicate any sense that WE should try to help people also.

I'm not sure where you get that, I'm really not."

Every single time one of you guys say "Let the police handle it." "Its not my job". "its not my problem".

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 8:47 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

This cracks me up... especially evertyime I read someone here going on and on and on and on about the environment....

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 9:00 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Quote:
Every single time one of you guys say "Let the police handle it." "Its not my job". "its not my problem".

Any quotes to back that up, my delusional friend?

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 9:03 AM

I like the mortar shells with the spreading crackle pop after effect. Especially the silver ones, they look like spiders, or maybe lightning.

I think we should put on a firework show in this very thread, and splash the black background of the forum posts with luminous colour. Onomatopoeia may also be used to fill in the background narrative.

Also: Brownies!

They look unimpressed. I don't think I'm going to take that kind of attitude from them!

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 9:17 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

"Any quotes to back that up, my delusional friend?"

Hey, maybe its just me. Probably it IS just me. But after having lived on the East Coast for so long (thats the right coast, or the 2nd landing spot of most libs) I've heard those phrases uttered quite a bit.

Sometimes by the libs, sometimes by those who are self-involved, selfish, scared ass-clowns...

But I repeat myself.

Yet, I hear the phrase "It takes a village to raise a child" quite a bit as well. Which, just goes to show that dichotmy is NOT just a word libs misspell.

In the end, the truth of things is this.

Libs wish for government to save them, rule them, control them, help them, provide for them. Mostly like the fathers they have missed all their lives. (Which, because of their social engineering, are missing... but I digress.)

Conservatives wish for government to rule, and control... and things will be great. So long as you believe EXACTLY as THEY want. 2 (opposite-sex)parent households, a Bible in one hand, a gun in the other, and the freedom to put that ideal on everyone else.

I choose a different path. But, conservatives, are closer to the correct path so I tend to give them more of a pass.

But both (liberal and conservative) are still wrong. Neither has it completely right.

Thus, the Tea Party.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 9:43 AM

FREMDFIRMA

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 10:32 AM

An army begins to move.

The resulting offensive is historic in it's scope and success.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 10:38 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Also.

In regards to liberals always going after corporations, rich people, etc...

When I see these people. The ones who have achieved (or, yes... been given) their wealth...

I think of one simple phrase.

"What one man can do, another can do."

Let the low people envy. The high will accomplish.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 10:41 AM

THEHAPPYTRADER

Catgirls or mouse tacos? My money is on the catgirls. Specially if they have like the katar katar from outlaw star.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 10:49 AM

"GIVE ME THE CATNIP ALREADY!"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 11:35 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

You guys are cute. So, if we are being ridiculous....

Allow me to retort.

Tho I don't agree with all of the lyrics...

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 11:49 AM

I haven't been contributing to the board for about six months, I'm not sure what y'all are expecting from me.

A chasm opens up in the ground.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 11:49 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

P.S. You pissants don't know anything about anime.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 11:52 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Wulf, you make so many mad assumptions about people based upon their political leanings that it is hard to know where to start.

Do you actually believe that Liberals-Progressives-Socialists are supporters of Pol Pot or Stalin or Hitler??????

Are you saying that someone on the left of the political spectrum would not assist at a fire or a crime, or is less likely to than someone on the right? Why would that be so?

Your views are generalisations and nonsensical.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:38 PM