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Music II

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Friday, January 24, 2025 5:16 PM

Organ cover Coldplay, very good player

I think I recognize the song but his bass line on feet look a little simple, if he was a true organist maybe he would give us more

real organists dance on those bass notes as they play and almost 'pull out all the stops'

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Saturday, January 25, 2025 9:25 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

How K-Pop makes simple chords sound complex

Jack Lo

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Sunday, January 26, 2025 2:25 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

maybe the music they play to them is crap?

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Sunday, January 26, 2025 2:27 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Texas a meeting of school mariachi bands

Canadian musician finds AI-generated album using his name, profile without permission

https://globalnews.ca/news/10971704/canadian-musician-ai-album-without
-permission/

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Saturday, February 1, 2025 4:38 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Beatles' Grammy nod spotlights music industry's AI debates
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250130-beatles-grammy-nod-spot
lights-music-industry-s-ai-debates

Copyright Report Says AI-Generated Songs Aren’t Protected, But That AI Tools Can Still Be Fair Game
https://www.billboard.com/pro/ai-generated-songs-cant-copyrighted-tool
s-report/

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Thursday, February 6, 2025 8:52 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

John in studio recording Yoko

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Thursday, February 6, 2025 9:42 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

SixString?

You know these Brit guys, like to sing for a long while....a lot of electrolyte samples, play piano, Cello, Drum Guitar for 1 Hour

Verve Bitter Sweet

sample from a 1965 version of the Rolling Stones song "The Last Time"

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Thursday, February 6, 2025 9:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

That's a jam right there buddy.

It's funny that I've never really listened to anything else they've done because that song Bittersweet Symphony is one of my Top 10 of all time for sure, and I know all about the back story about how the Stones screwed them over. Done as dirty as George Harrison was.

For a long time and maybe to this day when they play live they thank Mick Jagger for that before they start this song.

Song might not be for everybody, and a spot in my top ten might seem a little high, but there isn't a lot of songs I've heard that I don't know the lyrics to and I place a lot of importance on 'em. The words to this one always spoke to me on some primal level from the first time I heard it until now.

ETA: Was listening to that one for a while. Never heard it and I like the flourishes. I'm going to have to put that on my bookmarks.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Thursday, February 6, 2025 10:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Here's another song from right around that same time that I've also had in my Top 10, by another 1-hit Wonder who also used a lot of synth and samples from previous artists in the song.

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Thursday, February 6, 2025 10:18 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Dude.... Thank you for bringing this up.

Something has been EATING at me for weeks now ever since Robbie Williams first came up in the cinema thread.

There was a synth song from the late 90's that I'd loved ever since I heard it playing on some sort of screensaver demo running on a computer at Best Buy when me and a buddy were looking at the computers they had there. We had to be 16 and fresh with drivers licenses at the time. I got lucky a few years later and found out what the song was called and got it through Napster. But that collection of music I had back then was lost on a fragged hard drive somewhere along the way and I never bothered replacing most of it.

But then I'd heard the name Robbie Williams for the first time in more than a decade and for some reason I had replaced his name as the creator of this synth song in the music database inside my head. Because of that, forgetting the name of the song and the complete absence of lyrics and the song it was just... lost.

Well.... it was until right now when I was looking at the side bar for "Phonebooth". It was right there staring me in the face...

Not Robbie Williams.

Robert Miles.

And the song is called Children.

Such a cool jam, and a lot of memories attached to it.

Headphones recommended.

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Sunday, February 9, 2025 3:17 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

I liked t h at one but then for a while

that type of music would drive me nutty, I used to live with some of those stoner, drinker, techno Amsterdam crowd... I started to dislike it all...but kind of liked it again after being away...there is something about the chords or harmony, I like it was the loop I disliked or the lack of groove but they did very good 'mixes'

I think they were taking from Hindi ritual and Native American which is why its also some of it called 'Trance'

Depeche Mode, Prodigy, Daft Punk...its wasn't just about stims, these guys knew about music and were doing a new kind of art, Moby and Josh Wink were good but maybe not as established, Kraftwerk I think was the original 'hits' but it sounds kinda bad today, the samples 8-bit or something very gameboy video game like

2024 was the year AI made more music than humans

https://www.cryptopolitan.com/2024-ai-made-more-music-than-musicians/

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Sunday, February 9, 2025 3:18 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Gary Kemp uses AI London commuters in his music video because ‘record companies won’t fund them’

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2025-01-31/gary-kemp-uses-ai-in-music-
video-because-record-companies-wont-fund-them

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Sunday, February 9, 2025 3:27 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

and some bass because why not

another thing that put me off techno dance electronic...the lack of a true bass-line

,

Tool - Schism

,

Red Hot Chili Peppers - Go Robot

,

Bass TAB

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Sunday, February 9, 2025 6:45 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Simple Minds that Hollywood uplifting school rock 80s comedy school drama movie sound

80s movie pop, new Post-punk, synth-pop

good low budget? the movie I think it was made for less than a million quid Breakfast Club, John Hughes did Comedy Planes Trains Automobiles, Ferris Bueller, National Lampoons etc

Glasgow Band Scotland

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Sunday, February 9, 2025 8:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
I liked t h at one but then for a while

that type of music would drive me nutty, I used to live with some of those stoner, drinker, techno Amsterdam crowd... I started to dislike it all...but kind of liked it again after being away...there is something about the chords or harmony, I like it was the loop I disliked or the lack of groove but they did very good 'mixes'

I think they were taking from Hindi ritual and Native American which is why its also some of it called 'Trance'

Depeche Mode, Prodigy, Daft Punk...its wasn't just about stims, these guys knew about music and were doing a new kind of art, Moby and Josh Wink were good but maybe not as established, Kraftwerk I think was the original 'hits' but it sounds kinda bad today, the samples 8-bit or something very gameboy video game like

Yeah... I kind of miss that era of music and/or my life. It's not a big surprise why it didn't catch on for super long in the US while it's still going strong to this day elsewhere in the world, but I'm surprised it kind of seemed to just die overnight considering how big it had gotten around the late 90's and early 2000's. Maybe 9/11 had something to do with the shift in tone?

For some reason when you said 8-bit along with all of this, it made me think of a music video I'd seen only one time late at night on either MTV or VH1 and thought it was pretty freakin' cool. I'd told my brother about it a few times over the years, but never knew what it was until I finally found it on Youtube and showed it to him, without having watched it again myself.

Kind of wished I'd watched it again myself first. It was kind of an uncomfortable watch around 12 years after the first and only time I'd seen it.

Not sure if I didn't pick up the strange vibes it puts off the first time around back in the late 90's or very early 2000's because I was high and/or drunk while I watched it back then, or if that was just a more innocent time and I didn't infer and attribute any weird vibes onto it.

I dunno man. Everybody just accepted that Marty McFly, a high school kid, hung out with the crackpot inventor who wasn't related to him. Pretty certain that when they make that terrible Back to the Future remake that they're going to explain away that relationship with at least a loose family tie. (No pun intended).

What do you think?

ETA: Lol... I just did it again. Boy. I can't even imagine how this got put on MTV or VH1 at all, even late at night back then. I'd have expected it to have gone virtually unnoticed on MTV in the last 10 years even if it was played every day in the middle of the afternoon, but I think parents would have been lined up with pitchforks if they saw it back then.

Don't watch it, unless you're looking to be creeped out.

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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:33 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

New sounds

...a lot of silly crap fun sounds trying to get into Orchestra

my guess is that is something from Asia the East that will make the cut, maybe Stringed, Chinese Chime Bells, Tsuzumi or Vietnamese drum or more probably Asian 'Strings'

a modified Guzheng, Koto, Pipa, Biwa a Chinese, Japanese, Thai or SKorea instrument

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Don't watch it, unless you're looking to be creeped out.

Yeah watched it, I remember seeing it or also hearing much of it...probably flicked the channel back then, too many flashing lights or discording colors

Wouldn't have been a music vid I would have watched back in the day

very interesting to watch it again, a lot of weird innuendo and that Fox Rat Squirrel looking thing is a psycho

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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 8:37 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

80s pop sound Fairlight C-M-I

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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 9:34 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Alicia Keys

I see Japanese and Chinese kids play hundreds of times better than her

terrible musician, I'm actually amazed how stupid the public can be thinking she actually plays piano

at the age of four the bullshit gossip magazines they say Keys was a 'genius' appeared on The Cosby Show as Maria, one of Rudy's slumber-party friends
William Henry Cosby Jr has since been exposed as a sex fiend, many 'Sexual Assault' cases

they say she's a street kid trained, maybe a regular child trained in Classical and some world folk music and American blues piano vamp should easily out player her

probably sold her ass on the Weinstein casting couch

they say she is 'Classically Trained' but that 'Level' I never heard it in never music

she married a tone-deaf Rapper so I would question how she hears tone and harmony, or maybe she just married for money or animalistic copulation

“DEI is not a threat. It’s a gift.”
https://x.com/PopBase/status/1886270064976118220#m
— Alicia Keys accepting the Global Impact Award at the GRAMMYs

She had absolutely no impact on me, I only remember being somewhat annoyed by her 'music'

I remember hearing some of it having some kind of harmony or being in tune maybe her doing a vocal with a drum bass loop backing track, there was maybe something about Falling or Girlfriends or Africa a Peter Gabrielle Song originally with Kate Bush but now 'Bono'? "Don't Give Up" maybe?
it sounded typical "Plastic Pop" Love Song Drinking Smoking Song Boyfriend Girlfriend genre of R and B the so called "Popular Music" that lacks any real depth or merit...she moaned something about New York with a backing track but I do not believe I have ever listened to that song in full, or any of her songs in full, the sound just annoys me and I change the radio station although for a while it was always on the radio.
It's not her music, its all Pop in general that annoys me.

I think she's also a tv or movie 'actress' or something?

Would not be shocked to later discover she rents her ass like 'The Pussycat Dolls' although at least Alicia Keys has tried to sing and tried to learn piano

this style of 'pop' would not be my music at all

but anyways she wants to push DEI

Chinese and Japanese children playing covers live do a far better job than her

Piano or good piano has a place in pop and rock

Acoustic pianos play differently, they are primarily made of wood...not like your digital keyboard sound at all but I like Billy Joel and so what if its pop rock cliché because not all piano in Pop is terrible and some Rick Wakeman doing Bowie, The Beatles had nice harmony Jazz went new and fusion guys like Chick Corea on the scene, Chris Illingworth from Go Go Penguin proves British music is not dead? Tori Amos, Regina Spektor, Fiona Apple do have some challenging live stuff especially if you try copy it by ear, for those who like to play slow and expression. Slow expressive players who can't keep up, it can be hard to match the energy of Little Richard of pervert Jerry Lee Lewis, Jukebox The Ghost, Ben Folds Five, Toby Smith of Jamiroquai they can be a bit repetitive but rockin pop energy. 'Prince' would be there and he seemed to do a bit of everything on every instrument, Mike Oldfield another experimental multi instrument guy was a very skilled prog rock musician, Jethro Tull had interesting keyboardists over the years. The more sophisticated jazzy Esbjörn Svensson for modern sound but Nat King Cole had that swinging blues charleston era sound old school, Duke Ellington a top player band leader, Rick Wright's weird piano jams with Kenny Kirkland modern pop jazz but you can't deny the greatest of European Classical Composers, Marc Cohn for a mix of modern with a flavor of old gospel.

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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 3:36 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Secondary Dominant, power chord methods to change key

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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 6:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Don't watch it, unless you're looking to be creeped out.

Yeah watched it, I remember seeing it or also hearing much of it...probably flicked the channel back then, too many flashing lights or discording colors

Wouldn't have been a music vid I would have watched back in the day

very interesting to watch it again, a lot of weird innuendo and that Fox Rat Squirrel looking thing is a psycho

Born and raised on videogames, my brothers and I. If you put something video game where it normally wasn't found, I was there for it. Even in my late teens or early 20's when I would have caught that video the first time while I was channel surfing. It might not even have been MTV or VH1 that showed it. I never watched anything on either of those channels regularly... not even Jackass. I was never a huge music video watcher growing up and by that time MTV had already practically stopped showing them, and most of the crap they did show was even worse.

This is pretty interesting to me now though...

Why didn't anything in that video bother me in the slightest when I saw it back around 2000, but when I saw it a decade later with my brother I was cringing about halfway through?

And then just yesterday when I was talking about it I thought "I probably overreacted then and posted it again before watching it, and around 3/4 of the way in I was cringing so hard I didn't even finish it.

But then you say it's not so bad, and now I'm really wondering why it makes me cringe so hard today when I had good memories of the single time I saw it for so long.

It's strange how the brain works alongside of Time.

In any event, it's a fun song. Back from a time where I felt the music in general was just a lot more happy.

9/11 really fucked up the vibe forever.

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Thursday, February 13, 2025 7:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Still the best recording, ever.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Thursday, February 20, 2025 6:02 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

ByteDance has been building an AI music beast… with a little help from The Beatles and Michael Jackson
https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/bytedance-has-been-building-an-
ai-music-beast-with-a-little-help-from-the-beatles-and-michael-jackson/

Elon Musk xAI's Grok 3 chatbot
https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/elon-musk-s
ays-xais-grok-3-chatbot-be-unveiled-monday-2025-02-16/

"In The Flesh" Rally scene from Pink Floyd: The Wall

Pink Floyd The Wall is a 1982 British musical drama film directed by Alan Parker, based on Pink Floyd's 1979 album The Wall. The screenplay was written by Pink Floyd vocalist and bassist Roger Waters. The Boomtown Rats vocalist Bob Geldof made his film debut as rock star Pink, who, driven to neurosis by the pressures of stardom and traumatic events in his life, constructs an emotional and mental wall to protect himself. However, this coping mechanism eventually backfires, and Pink demands to be set free.

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Friday, February 21, 2025 5:59 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Max Richter issues warning to MPs about AI in the music industry
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/max-richter-issues-warning-mps-ai-music-i
ndustry/
Classical composer Max Richter has issued a warning to MPs amid government plans to shake up laws regarding the use of AI in the music industry.

Bluegrass Guitar

wish he knew

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Saturday, February 22, 2025 3:44 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

how it changed teaching

Remote Learning During COVID-19: Lessons from Today, Principles for Tomorrow

https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/edutech/brief/how-countries-are-usi
ng-edtech-to-support-remote-learning-during-the-covid-19-pandemic

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Sunday, February 23, 2025 5:18 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Suno explained: How to use the viral AI song generator for free

https://www.techradar.com/computing/artificial-intelligence/what-is-su
no-ai<

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Monday, February 24, 2025 5:54 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Fretless Bass

or maybe find something alien exotic and new

New Scales, notes between the notes, a microtone or Microtonality?

Levi McClain

,
Sevish

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Tuesday, February 25, 2025 4:28 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Doubleneck Collector's Edition

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Sunday, March 2, 2025 3:58 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

War isn't murder.

https://gab.com/piokolby/posts/114090426572739417

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Sunday, March 2, 2025 4:04 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Phrygian Dominant: The Most Hauntingly Beautiful Scale

Mixolydian on piano common in funk, dance music can be seen as a Major with a flat 7

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Sunday, March 2, 2025 4:10 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Phrygian Chords AKA sus b9

Top 15 Chord Progressions In Classical Music

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Sunday, March 2, 2025 6:50 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

social media style Meme entertainment

I, Giorno Giovanna, have a BASS

Davie504

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Sunday, March 2, 2025 6:51 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Guessing What Our Tone Deaf Friend is Singing

TwoSetViolin

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Monday, March 3, 2025 12:22 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Led Zeppelin’s Jimmy Page attacks UK government’s AI copyright plan

https://www.nme.com/news/music/led-zeppelins-jimmy-page-attacks-uk-gov
ernments-ai-copyright-plan-will-we-let-the-machines-take-the-stage-or-will-we-fight-for-the-irreplaceable-magic-of-human-artistry-3843158

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Monday, March 3, 2025 12:26 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

A win for creative industries against AI?

https://www.artshub.com.au/news/opinions-analysis/a-win-for-creative-i
ndustries-against-ai-2769396/

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Monday, March 3, 2025 12:29 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Bluegrass Bass Lessons: Exercise Video #4 - Walking Arpeggios

Guitar Lesson, Bluegrass guitar lick ideas!

Bluegrass Bass - Beyond the Root and Fifth

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Tuesday, March 4, 2025 4:47 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Level 42's Mark King fears AI is going to kill people

https://www.music-news.com/news/UK/180199/Level-42-s-Mark-King-fears-A
I-is-going-to-kill-people

so he seems to wear a bottle neck on his thumb, I was wondering how he slapped so well

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Wednesday, March 5, 2025 8:52 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Mike Portnoy Hears Taylor Swift For The First Time

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Wednesday, March 5, 2025 9:12 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

2CELLOS & LANG LANG - Live And Let Die

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 8:51 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Japanese Pentatonic Scales

(Ritusen, Kumoi, Hirajoshi, Iwato)

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:38 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

very wise to play in 'the dark' it actually enhances your senses, touch, hearing, as it shuts other stuff out

but I cant play as clean as this guy :(

maybe I will buy a guitar and try learn again

'How I play guitar after watching DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN'

I always enjoyed the sound of Spanish guitar from the moment I heard the notes from players

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Monday, March 10, 2025 9:06 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

a fat degenerate comedian comments on that whole Hollyweird garbage

Tim's Song for Trans Movie 'Emilia Pérez'

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Monday, March 10, 2025 3:39 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Hans Zimmer On Academy Disqualification For ‘Dune: Part Two’ Score: “A Stupid Rule”
https://deadline.com/2025/03/hans-zimmer-academy-disqualification-dune
-part-two-score-1236320291/
The two-time Oscar winner continued, “I got disqualified because I was using material from the first movie in the second movie, but it’s not a sequel. It is the completion, both movies are one arc. So was I supposed to go and take all the character themes away and write new character themes and develop them? It’s just a stupid rule. What I didn’t want to do is go and bitch about it.”

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Monday, March 10, 2025 3:44 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Director Slams Prince's Estate for Scrapping His 9-Hour Doc and Says They're 'Afraid' of the Late Icon's 'Humanity'

https://people.com/director-slams-prince-estate-for-scrapping-netflix-
documentary-11690925

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Monday, March 10, 2025 5:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Now THIS one is a pure f'ing BANGER....

Heard this on the end credits of some of WeirdMoviesWithMark videos for a few years and only now got around to trying to figure out where it came from.

He uses the 2nd half of it, which is unarguably the best part, but I love the full 6.5 minute version. (Mark starts it in his videos right at 3:50)

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Tuesday, March 11, 2025 5:45 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

how fake it all has become

The AI Music Generator: Your New Creative Superpower
https://techbullion.com/the-ai-music-generator-your-new-creative-super
power/

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Sunday, March 16, 2025 2:21 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

The Japanese Music Iceberg Explained

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Sunday, March 16, 2025 11:27 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

13 Embarrassing Guitar Fails

What (almost) everyone gets wrong about Jazz

The Worst Genre Of Music

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Sunday, March 16, 2025 11:29 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Sony Says It Has Already Taken Down More Than 75,000 AI Deepfake Songs

https://gizmodo.com/sony-says-it-has-already-taken-down-more-than-7500
0-ai-deepfake-songs-2000573829

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Sunday, March 16, 2025 11:51 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

The economist is pushing sertanejo, I don't know what to make of it, like a mix of auto tuned pop, country redneck and Latin hip hopper favela music
or maybe because the Hollyweirdo pedophiles think it Oscar worthy

but you can sing to it if you know the Portuguese Brazilian words

A new kind of Brazilian music is poised for a global boom
https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2025/03/06/a-new-kind-of-brazil
ian-music-is-poised-for-a-global-boom
Bossa nova and samba are out. 'Funk' is in

I don't hear that heavy downbeat with off beat, "jamming" on the bass the slap and popping note, I don't the seventh note or sus chord or sharp 9 or Mixolydian mode
I do not hear the Clyde Stubblefield snare or swung Kick drum of Zep
or other rhythm legends that others would later sample as 'Funky' it seems after James Brown and Prince the Funk is basically dead, I'm not sure what the tronica stuff is the electric keyboard samples and 'Jazzed' Funk seems its own thing, mostly FuckedInTheHead.
in the Brazil style I don't hear notes of funk I do not hear the voice drive nor do I hear that James Brown, Prince percussive groove in the voice but maybe its 'danceable' or makes people sway at the nighclub disco which they associate with funk.

or maybe its the Lyric content, but James Brown didnt say much just mostly grunted and made 'sound' they also had techniques like "choking" the guitar neck percussive hits like rock or scatting vocal improvisation with wordless vocables, nonsense syllables or without words at all, something that happened in Blues, Jazz and other World Music...the traditional Funk that once was now seems dead

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Sunday, March 16, 2025 12:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I'd ask Robbie Williams what he thinks about their chances of becoming a global phenomenon.

Also, was this article written by AI? I don't see a single byline or mention of an author. Even put it on archive so I could see the whole thing and I was sure there name was at the bottom of the page. It's not.

I wanted to try to figure out the age/gender of the author to try and figure out why they got this idea in their head. But it appears to have been written by code.

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