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Music II

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UPDATED: Thursday, February 13, 2025 07:20
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Friday, January 24, 2025 5:16 PM

Organ cover Coldplay, very good player

I think I recognize the song but his bass line on feet look a little simple, if he was a true organist maybe he would give us more

real organists dance on those bass notes as they play and almost 'pull out all the stops'

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Saturday, January 25, 2025 9:25 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

How K-Pop makes simple chords sound complex

Jack Lo

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Sunday, January 26, 2025 2:25 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

maybe the music they play to them is crap?

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Sunday, January 26, 2025 2:27 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Texas a meeting of school mariachi bands

Canadian musician finds AI-generated album using his name, profile without permission

https://globalnews.ca/news/10971704/canadian-musician-ai-album-without
-permission/

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Saturday, February 1, 2025 4:38 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Beatles' Grammy nod spotlights music industry's AI debates
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250130-beatles-grammy-nod-spot
lights-music-industry-s-ai-debates

Copyright Report Says AI-Generated Songs Aren’t Protected, But That AI Tools Can Still Be Fair Game
https://www.billboard.com/pro/ai-generated-songs-cant-copyrighted-tool
s-report/

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Thursday, February 6, 2025 8:52 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

John in studio recording Yoko

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Thursday, February 6, 2025 9:42 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

SixString?

You know these Brit guys, like to sing for a long while....a lot of electrolyte samples, play piano, Cello, Drum Guitar for 1 Hour

Verve Bitter Sweet

sample from a 1965 version of the Rolling Stones song "The Last Time"

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Thursday, February 6, 2025 9:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

That's a jam right there buddy.

It's funny that I've never really listened to anything else they've done because that song Bittersweet Symphony is one of my Top 10 of all time for sure, and I know all about the back story about how the Stones screwed them over. Done as dirty as George Harrison was.

For a long time and maybe to this day when they play live they thank Mick Jagger for that before they start this song.

Song might not be for everybody, and a spot in my top ten might seem a little high, but there isn't a lot of songs I've heard that I don't know the lyrics to and I place a lot of importance on 'em. The words to this one always spoke to me on some primal level from the first time I heard it until now.

ETA: Was listening to that one for a while. Never heard it and I like the flourishes. I'm going to have to put that on my bookmarks.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Thursday, February 6, 2025 10:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Here's another song from right around that same time that I've also had in my Top 10, by another 1-hit Wonder who also used a lot of synth and samples from previous artists in the song.

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Thursday, February 6, 2025 10:18 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Dude.... Thank you for bringing this up.

Something has been EATING at me for weeks now ever since Robbie Williams first came up in the cinema thread.

There was a synth song from the late 90's that I'd loved ever since I heard it playing on some sort of screensaver demo running on a computer at Best Buy when me and a buddy were looking at the computers they had there. We had to be 16 and fresh with drivers licenses at the time. I got lucky a few years later and found out what the song was called and got it through Napster. But that collection of music I had back then was lost on a fragged hard drive somewhere along the way and I never bothered replacing most of it.

But then I'd heard the name Robbie Williams for the first time in more than a decade and for some reason I had replaced his name as the creator of this synth song in the music database inside my head. Because of that, forgetting the name of the song and the complete absence of lyrics and the song it was just... lost.

Well.... it was until right now when I was looking at the side bar for "Phonebooth". It was right there staring me in the face...

Not Robbie Williams.

Robert Miles.

And the song is called Children.

Such a cool jam, and a lot of memories attached to it.

Headphones recommended.

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Sunday, February 9, 2025 3:17 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

I liked t h at one but then for a while

that type of music would drive me nutty, I used to live with some of those stoner, drinker, techno Amsterdam crowd... I started to dislike it all...but kind of liked it again after being away...there is something about the chords or harmony, I like it was the loop I disliked or the lack of groove but they did very good 'mixes'

I think they were taking from Hindi ritual and Native American which is why its also some of it called 'Trance'

Depeche Mode, Prodigy, Daft Punk...its wasn't just about stims, these guys knew about music and were doing a new kind of art, Moby and Josh Wink were good but maybe not as established, Kraftwerk I think was the original 'hits' but it sounds kinda bad today, the samples 8-bit or something very gameboy video game like

2024 was the year AI made more music than humans

https://www.cryptopolitan.com/2024-ai-made-more-music-than-musicians/

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Sunday, February 9, 2025 3:18 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Gary Kemp uses AI London commuters in his music video because ‘record companies won’t fund them’

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2025-01-31/gary-kemp-uses-ai-in-music-
video-because-record-companies-wont-fund-them

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Sunday, February 9, 2025 3:27 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

and some bass because why not

another thing that put me off techno dance electronic...the lack of a true bass-line

,

Tool - Schism

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Red Hot Chili Peppers - Go Robot

,

Bass TAB

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Sunday, February 9, 2025 6:45 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Simple Minds that Hollywood uplifting school rock 80s comedy school drama movie sound

80s movie pop, new Post-punk, synth-pop

good low budget? the movie I think it was made for less than a million quid Breakfast Club, John Hughes did Comedy Planes Trains Automobiles, Ferris Bueller, National Lampoons etc

Glasgow Band Scotland

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Sunday, February 9, 2025 8:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
I liked t h at one but then for a while

that type of music would drive me nutty, I used to live with some of those stoner, drinker, techno Amsterdam crowd... I started to dislike it all...but kind of liked it again after being away...there is something about the chords or harmony, I like it was the loop I disliked or the lack of groove but they did very good 'mixes'

I think they were taking from Hindi ritual and Native American which is why its also some of it called 'Trance'

Depeche Mode, Prodigy, Daft Punk...its wasn't just about stims, these guys knew about music and were doing a new kind of art, Moby and Josh Wink were good but maybe not as established, Kraftwerk I think was the original 'hits' but it sounds kinda bad today, the samples 8-bit or something very gameboy video game like

Yeah... I kind of miss that era of music and/or my life. It's not a big surprise why it didn't catch on for super long in the US while it's still going strong to this day elsewhere in the world, but I'm surprised it kind of seemed to just die overnight considering how big it had gotten around the late 90's and early 2000's. Maybe 9/11 had something to do with the shift in tone?

For some reason when you said 8-bit along with all of this, it made me think of a music video I'd seen only one time late at night on either MTV or VH1 and thought it was pretty freakin' cool. I'd told my brother about it a few times over the years, but never knew what it was until I finally found it on Youtube and showed it to him, without having watched it again myself.

Kind of wished I'd watched it again myself first. It was kind of an uncomfortable watch around 12 years after the first and only time I'd seen it.

Not sure if I didn't pick up the strange vibes it puts off the first time around back in the late 90's or very early 2000's because I was high and/or drunk while I watched it back then, or if that was just a more innocent time and I didn't infer and attribute any weird vibes onto it.

I dunno man. Everybody just accepted that Marty McFly, a high school kid, hung out with the crackpot inventor who wasn't related to him. Pretty certain that when they make that terrible Back to the Future remake that they're going to explain away that relationship with at least a loose family tie. (No pun intended).

What do you think?

ETA: Lol... I just did it again. Boy. I can't even imagine how this got put on MTV or VH1 at all, even late at night back then. I'd have expected it to have gone virtually unnoticed on MTV in the last 10 years even if it was played every day in the middle of the afternoon, but I think parents would have been lined up with pitchforks if they saw it back then.

Don't watch it, unless you're looking to be creeped out.

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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:33 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

New sounds

...a lot of silly crap fun sounds trying to get into Orchestra

my guess is that is something from Asia the East that will make the cut, maybe Stringed, Chinese Chime Bells, Tsuzumi or Vietnamese drum or more probably Asian 'Strings'

a modified Guzheng, Koto, Pipa, Biwa a Chinese, Japanese, Thai or SKorea instrument

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Don't watch it, unless you're looking to be creeped out.

Yeah watched it, I remember seeing it or also hearing much of it...probably flicked the channel back then, too many flashing lights or discording colors

Wouldn't have been a music vid I would have watched back in the day

very interesting to watch it again, a lot of weird innuendo and that Fox Rat Squirrel looking thing is a psycho

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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 8:37 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

80s pop sound Fairlight C-M-I

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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 9:34 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Alicia Keys

I see Japanese and Chinese kids play hundreds of times better than her

terrible musician, I'm actually amazed how stupid the public can be thinking she actually plays piano

at the age of four the bullshit gossip magazines they say Keys was a 'genius' appeared on The Cosby Show as Maria, one of Rudy's slumber-party friends
William Henry Cosby Jr has since been exposed as a sex fiend, many 'Sexual Assault' cases

they say she's a street kid trained, maybe a regular child trained in Classical and some world folk music and American blues piano vamp should easily out player her

probably sold her ass on the Weinstein casting couch

they say she is 'Classically Trained' but that 'Level' I never heard it in never music

she married a tone-deaf Rapper so I would question how she hears tone and harmony, or maybe she just married for money or animalistic copulation

“DEI is not a threat. It’s a gift.”
https://x.com/PopBase/status/1886270064976118220#m
— Alicia Keys accepting the Global Impact Award at the GRAMMYs

She had absolutely no impact on me, I only remember being somewhat annoyed by her 'music'

I remember hearing some of it having some kind of harmony or being in tune maybe her doing a vocal with a drum bass loop backing track, there was maybe something about Falling or Girlfriends or Africa a Peter Gabrielle Song originally with Kate Bush but now 'Bono'? "Don't Give Up" maybe?
it sounded typical "Plastic Pop" Love Song Drinking Smoking Song Boyfriend Girlfriend genre of R and B the so called "Popular Music" that lacks any real depth or merit...she moaned something about New York with a backing track but I do not believe I have ever listened to that song in full, or any of her songs in full, the sound just annoys me and I change the radio station although for a while it was always on the radio.
It's not her music, its all Pop in general that annoys me.

I think she's also a tv or movie 'actress' or something?

Would not be shocked to later discover she rents her ass like 'The Pussycat Dolls' although at least Alicia Keys has tried to sing and tried to learn piano

this style of 'pop' would not be my music at all

but anyways she wants to push DEI

Chinese and Japanese children playing covers live do a far better job than her

Piano or good piano has a place in pop and rock

Acoustic pianos play differently, they are primarily made of wood...not like your digital keyboard sound at all but I like Billy Joel and so what if its pop rock cliché because not all piano in Pop is terrible and some Rick Wakeman doing Bowie, The Beatles had nice harmony Jazz went new and fusion guys like Chick Corea on the scene, Chris Illingworth from Go Go Penguin proves British music is not dead? Tori Amos, Regina Spektor, Fiona Apple do have some challenging live stuff especially if you try copy it by ear, for those who like to play slow and expression. Slow expressive players who can't keep up, it can be hard to match the energy of Little Richard of pervert Jerry Lee Lewis, Jukebox The Ghost, Ben Folds Five, Toby Smith of Jamiroquai they can be a bit repetitive but rockin pop energy. 'Prince' would be there and he seemed to do a bit of everything on every instrument, Mike Oldfield another experimental multi instrument guy was a very skilled prog rock musician, Jethro Tull had interesting keyboardists over the years. The more sophisticated jazzy Esbjörn Svensson for modern sound but Nat King Cole had that swinging blues charleston era sound old school, Duke Ellington a top player band leader, Rick Wright's weird piano jams with Kenny Kirkland modern pop jazz but you can't deny the greatest of European Classical Composers, Marc Cohn for a mix of modern with a flavor of old gospel.

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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 3:36 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Secondary Dominant, power chord methods to change key

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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 6:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Don't watch it, unless you're looking to be creeped out.

Yeah watched it, I remember seeing it or also hearing much of it...probably flicked the channel back then, too many flashing lights or discording colors

Wouldn't have been a music vid I would have watched back in the day

very interesting to watch it again, a lot of weird innuendo and that Fox Rat Squirrel looking thing is a psycho

Born and raised on videogames, my brothers and I. If you put something video game where it normally wasn't found, I was there for it. Even in my late teens or early 20's when I would have caught that video the first time while I was channel surfing. It might not even have been MTV or VH1 that showed it. I never watched anything on either of those channels regularly... not even Jackass. I was never a huge music video watcher growing up and by that time MTV had already practically stopped showing them, and most of the crap they did show was even worse.

This is pretty interesting to me now though...

Why didn't anything in that video bother me in the slightest when I saw it back around 2000, but when I saw it a decade later with my brother I was cringing about halfway through?

And then just yesterday when I was talking about it I thought "I probably overreacted then and posted it again before watching it, and around 3/4 of the way in I was cringing so hard I didn't even finish it.

But then you say it's not so bad, and now I'm really wondering why it makes me cringe so hard today when I had good memories of the single time I saw it for so long.

It's strange how the brain works alongside of Time.

In any event, it's a fun song. Back from a time where I felt the music in general was just a lot more happy.

9/11 really fucked up the vibe forever.

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Thursday, February 13, 2025 7:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Still the best recording, ever.

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